Excellent thread, definately.
I really liked the suggestion by nat hawks. I have been using Live 4 ever
since it was released, and I'm deeply in love with it. BUT, the Protools,
audio-only approach ( I didn't know about this 8-Track free version. Does it
work on all platforms and soundcards?). As I'm studyind audio engineering
myself and most of the sequencing and tracking is done on protools at my
school, this could be very useful for me, to learn about the interface,
shortcuts, etc. Not to mention that the approach will be quite different
than the one I have been using in Ableton. Thanks for the tip.
And Thanks to a z for mentioning this Live list, looking forward to it.
Peace,
Chase the void... maybe you'll find something along the way.
On 12/7/05, nat hawks <natbot@hotmail.com> wrote:
quoted 173 lines ya know, it's funny...
>
> ya know, it's funny...
>
> i read the initial posting by StaticBeats and thought "that's pretty
> fucking
> cool..."
>
> and then i saw how many were responding, though not reading them, and
> thought "damn, this is a wicked list. an upstart calls out and his needs
> are answered in earnest..."
>
> *lord have mercy on the weak, wretched souls that talk down to those who
> move in new directions. amen.*
>
> to add, i would say this to the StaticB Jr..... DON'T DO WHAT OTHER PEOPLE
> ARE DOING!!!!
>
> if you get the same midi-keyboard and software as everyone else you will
> sound just like the rest (though not to say that mastery of such tools
> cannot certainly bring endless inovation)...
>
> i would say take a unique approach... this is what i did for years...
> download ProTools free software (a very userfriendly, 8 track recording
> software with friendly pan and volume controls) and get some old weird
> electronic toys and gear and a microphone and some pots and pans and an fm
> radio and try to make something new from the start. take a different
> approach that will lead more directly to something unique. hell, anything
> using a microphone is "electronic"!
>
> yes, a lot of the other submissions will sound GREAT, but they will sound
> the same. though i know nothing of this program, i would bank that you
> may
> have better luck submitting something much more rougharoundtheedges, but
> with class and dignity...
>
> : >
>
>
> >From: Andrew Giessel <andrew@giessel.com>
> >To: idm@hyperreal.org
> >Subject: Re: [idm] Student of Electronic Music requests help
> >Date: Tue, 6 Dec 2005 19:49:56 -0500 (EST)
> >
> >there is no excuse for discouraging honest artistic effort; there is no
> age
> >past which one can not create beauty. if everyone gave up because there
> was
> >someone more skilled or more experianced in making their own type of art,
> >nothing would ever be made. feel free to express your negativity
> someplace
> >else.
> >
> >back to the topic- i highly suggest checking out ableton- it's not
> perfect
> >for everything, but its easy to grasp and one can quickly get ideas onto
> a
> >computer. just spend about a month with it and just see what
> happens. it
> >won't be mind blowing to start, but if you're really into it, its the
> >begining of a process that you'll be on for years.
> >
> >peace,
> >
> >giessel.
> >
> >--
> >
> >Andrew Giessel
> >http://giessel.com [url]
> >andrew@giessel.com [email]
> >andrewgiessel [aim]
> >
> >On Tue, 6 Dec 2005, Chork the Jangler wrote:
> >
> >>tell him he's too late -- the people who were fascinated with this
> >>stuff in their youth when most people were busy dreaming of firetrucks
> >>have been composing since then, having come to the correct conclusion
> >>much earlier than him, and so have better technique by now. it would
> >>be pointless to compete with this unless he's got the drive and the
> >>passion to self motivate enough to teach himself. any teacher that has
> >>to judge the relative merits of 150 undergrad IDM fanboys' demos
> >>(shudder) will know in an instant that this guy is just trying to hack
> >>something together to get in the class, rather than demonstrating long
> >>hours of hard work and creative efforts.
> >>
> >>it can be done but imho it's unlikely given that his first impulse was
> >>to ask teh internot for help rather than DOING IT.
> >>
> >>yes, i'm a jerk -- feel free to address that in a seperate thread.
> >>
> >>On 12/6/05, StaticBeats <stupidnametaken@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >>>Hey all, my younger brother posted this to the Forum
> >>>on StaticBeats. I'm not much a music maker so I don't
> >>>know where to direct him. I know there are forums out
> >>>there and discussion lists where these type of answers
> >>>exist. Any insight or help you can offer is
> >>>appreciated. See below.
> >>>
> >>>I'm at the tail end of my first quarter at UCSC, and
> >>>yesterday I took my final in my favorite course of the
> >>>quarter: "History of Electronic Music."
> >>>
> >>>I'm sure my brother knows how much I enjoyed the
> >>>course, because I called him after almost every
> >>>session to tell him what cool stuff I learned.
> >>>
> >>>My experience in that class helped me decide that I
> >>>wanted to take my knowledge of music deeper (I play
> >>>guitar...)
> >>>
> >>>So I've decided to minor in electronic music... Very
> >>>Happy
> >>>
> >>>Hopefully the courses provided through UCSC will be
> >>>good, but I have a feeling they will be because most
> >>>of the professors in the department were deeply
> >>>involved in the startup companies (E-Mu specifically)
> >>>and knew Bob Moog personally, and some even knew Leon
> >>>Theremin!! (Some of these dudes are pretty old.)
> >>>
> >>>To cut a long story short, I cannot proceed with my
> >>>studies of electronic music until next year, because
> >>>the program excludes freshmen. To increase my chances
> >>>of getting into the program (25 are allowed out of the
> >>>150 or so that apply yearly) I need to compose a few
> >>>tracks of my own.
> >>>
> >>>However, in the class, we only got tutorials on
> >>>expensive software, and I still seem to have trouble
> >>>getting the sounds I want from the program I'm using
> >>>currently (Re-birth, though I hope to upgrade to
> >>>Reason sometime soon...)
> >>>
> >>>So if any of you can give me some tips on composition,
> >>>or just want to talk about the history of this genre,
> >>>write back
> >>>
> >>>Thanks
> >>>--
> >>>~Elan
> >>>
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