ya know, it's funny...
i read the initial posting by StaticBeats and thought "that's pretty fucking
cool..."
and then i saw how many were responding, though not reading them, and
thought "damn, this is a wicked list. an upstart calls out and his needs
are answered in earnest..."
*lord have mercy on the weak, wretched souls that talk down to those who
move in new directions. amen.*
to add, i would say this to the StaticB Jr..... DON'T DO WHAT OTHER PEOPLE
ARE DOING!!!!
if you get the same midi-keyboard and software as everyone else you will
sound just like the rest (though not to say that mastery of such tools
cannot certainly bring endless inovation)...
i would say take a unique approach... this is what i did for years...
download ProTools free software (a very userfriendly, 8 track recording
software with friendly pan and volume controls) and get some old weird
electronic toys and gear and a microphone and some pots and pans and an fm
radio and try to make something new from the start. take a different
approach that will lead more directly to something unique. hell, anything
using a microphone is "electronic"!
yes, a lot of the other submissions will sound GREAT, but they will sound
the same. though i know nothing of this program, i would bank that you may
have better luck submitting something much more rougharoundtheedges, but
with class and dignity...
: >
quoted 118 lines From: Andrew Giessel <andrew@giessel.com>
>From: Andrew Giessel <andrew@giessel.com>
>To: idm@hyperreal.org
>Subject: Re: [idm] Student of Electronic Music requests help
>Date: Tue, 6 Dec 2005 19:49:56 -0500 (EST)
>
>there is no excuse for discouraging honest artistic effort; there is no age
>past which one can not create beauty. if everyone gave up because there was
>someone more skilled or more experianced in making their own type of art,
>nothing would ever be made. feel free to express your negativity someplace
>else.
>
>back to the topic- i highly suggest checking out ableton- it's not perfect
>for everything, but its easy to grasp and one can quickly get ideas onto a
>computer. just spend about a month with it and just see what happens. it
>won't be mind blowing to start, but if you're really into it, its the
>begining of a process that you'll be on for years.
>
>peace,
>
>giessel.
>
>--
>
>Andrew Giessel
>http://giessel.com [url]
>andrew@giessel.com [email]
>andrewgiessel [aim]
>
>On Tue, 6 Dec 2005, Chork the Jangler wrote:
>
>>tell him he's too late -- the people who were fascinated with this
>>stuff in their youth when most people were busy dreaming of firetrucks
>>have been composing since then, having come to the correct conclusion
>>much earlier than him, and so have better technique by now. it would
>>be pointless to compete with this unless he's got the drive and the
>>passion to self motivate enough to teach himself. any teacher that has
>>to judge the relative merits of 150 undergrad IDM fanboys' demos
>>(shudder) will know in an instant that this guy is just trying to hack
>>something together to get in the class, rather than demonstrating long
>>hours of hard work and creative efforts.
>>
>>it can be done but imho it's unlikely given that his first impulse was
>>to ask teh internot for help rather than DOING IT.
>>
>>yes, i'm a jerk -- feel free to address that in a seperate thread.
>>
>>On 12/6/05, StaticBeats <stupidnametaken@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>Hey all, my younger brother posted this to the Forum
>>>on StaticBeats. I'm not much a music maker so I don't
>>>know where to direct him. I know there are forums out
>>>there and discussion lists where these type of answers
>>>exist. Any insight or help you can offer is
>>>appreciated. See below.
>>>
>>>I'm at the tail end of my first quarter at UCSC, and
>>>yesterday I took my final in my favorite course of the
>>>quarter: "History of Electronic Music."
>>>
>>>I'm sure my brother knows how much I enjoyed the
>>>course, because I called him after almost every
>>>session to tell him what cool stuff I learned.
>>>
>>>My experience in that class helped me decide that I
>>>wanted to take my knowledge of music deeper (I play
>>>guitar...)
>>>
>>>So I've decided to minor in electronic music... Very
>>>Happy
>>>
>>>Hopefully the courses provided through UCSC will be
>>>good, but I have a feeling they will be because most
>>>of the professors in the department were deeply
>>>involved in the startup companies (E-Mu specifically)
>>>and knew Bob Moog personally, and some even knew Leon
>>>Theremin!! (Some of these dudes are pretty old.)
>>>
>>>To cut a long story short, I cannot proceed with my
>>>studies of electronic music until next year, because
>>>the program excludes freshmen. To increase my chances
>>>of getting into the program (25 are allowed out of the
>>>150 or so that apply yearly) I need to compose a few
>>>tracks of my own.
>>>
>>>However, in the class, we only got tutorials on
>>>expensive software, and I still seem to have trouble
>>>getting the sounds I want from the program I'm using
>>>currently (Re-birth, though I hope to upgrade to
>>>Reason sometime soon...)
>>>
>>>So if any of you can give me some tips on composition,
>>>or just want to talk about the history of this genre,
>>>write back
>>>
>>>Thanks
>>>--
>>>~Elan
>>>
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>>
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