yes, except for those executed via the internet.
On 11/17/05, Obed Vento <ovento@keyleadsonline.com> wrote:
quoted 84 lines I love well performed and executed gimmicks.> I love well performed and executed gimmicks.
>
> Who's with me?
>
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> From: chthonic [mailto:chthonic@chthonicstreams.com]
> Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2005 12:18 PM
> To: idm@hyperreal.org
> Subject: Re: [idm] Gimicky Cage
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> ---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
> From: Victor Elkins <tempvictor@gmail.com>
> Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2005 11:54:22 -0500
>
> >Sounds a bit brilliant to me, particularly the sitting at the piano and
> >playing nothing thing, which forces people to listen to the environment
> and
> >what's inside.
>
>
> normally i hate gimmicks, but i agree cage's seem to have some thought
> behind it. it's
> conceptual art more than music. if you don't go for conceptual art you
> won't appreciate
> cage.
>
> the definition of "gimmick" is further food for thought:
>
> 1. A device employed to cheat, deceive, or trick, especially a mechanism
> for the secret and
> dishonest control of gambling apparatus.
>
> - i don't hink cage was trying to "put one over" on people. he could
> have come up with
> something to swindle a lot more money.
>
>
> 2. An innovative or unusual mechanical contrivance; a gadget.
>
> - did he ever invent any mujsical gadgets? i can't recall.
>
>
> 3. An innovative stratagem or scheme employed especially to promote a
> project: an
> advertising gimmick.
>
> - this seems to be what was implied here, but i don't believe any of the
> pieces he performed
> were summarized in order to promote them ("i read in the paper that at
> john cage's concert
> tonight he's gonna sit in front of a piano and not play anything! that
> is so wild, let's go!")
> the innovations he came up with were to expand the horizons of music and
> art, not sell
> anything.
>
>
> 4. A significant feature that is obscured, misrepresented, or not
> readily evident; a catch.
>
> - if anything, this is possibly the only way you could apply this word,
> since you could say for
> example that sitting in front of the piano implies he's going to play
> it, which is a
> misprepresentation. and certainly his music is obscure; though one of
> the more famous
> avant-garde musicians, his name is less known than a lot of artists and
> musicians.
>
>
>
> d.
>
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