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From:
William Samuels
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Date:
Sun, 6 Jul 2003 20:42:50 -0700 (PDT)
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Re: [idm] happy 6th
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--- Sean <sm66220n@stmail.pace.edu> wrote:
quoted 21 lines From: Brandon Smith <gozravp@yahoo.com>> From: Brandon Smith <gozravp@yahoo.com> > Date: Sat, 5 Jul 2003 19:49:38 -0700 (PDT) > > > > >> do you know what we call the holiday? it's called > >> "indepedence day." it's a celebration of the > >> independence of the united states. you don't have > to > >> take a stance against imperialism to celebrate > the > >> united states' victory against england in the > fight > >> for sovereignty. > > > >But you do have to have a rather  > >to do it with a straight face, having even a remote > >idea of certain trends in our foreign policy. > > nonsense. millions of normal americans celebrated > this weekend without suffering from bad conscience. > you're completely out of touch with reality.
Perhaps I'm wrong but I get the feeling that the "creative conscience" statement was directed at policymakers, not at the millions of Joe Sixpacks out there celebrating a holiday. Creative conscious...I can see that. It's pretty obvious a lot of foreign policymakers seem to omit crucial facts when it comes to it's propaganda. I saw someone refer to it as "Selective Amnesia"
quoted 5 lines don't be an ass. it's bad enough i've got this other> don't be an ass. it's bad enough i've got this other > fool recommending noam chomsky to me. he made quite > foolish generalizations about the united states and > about thanksgiving (of all the subjects to > choose..).
Noam Chomsky seems like a very intelligent and informed person. I don't see how that is a foolish recommendation. Have you ever read any of his work? What I have read has been very detailed and backup by a lot of historical facts. Perhaps you might be able to enlighten us on his fallacies?
quoted 10 lines because you appear - or give yourself away as -> >> because you appear - or give yourself away as - > >> spiteful and ridiculous. > > > >Kind of like how Howard Zinn looks ridiculus next > to > >such modern day jingoist intellects as Sean Hannity > >or, bless her ego, Ann Coulter. > > yeah, the three of them are ridiculous compared to > just about anybody.
If you read about history, it's obvious how full of shit the Right-wing propaganda media is. There's a lot of lunacy on the right which are trying to breed some radical nationalism that acts like the US has supreme right to do whatever it wants regardless of International law. Photos of Bush protest in LA http://la.indymedia.org/ __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! http://sbc.yahoo.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org