From: Brandon Smith <gozravp@yahoo.com>
Date: Sat, 5 Jul 2003 19:49:38 -0700 (PDT)
quoted 11 lines do you know what we call the holiday? it's called>
>> do you know what we call the holiday? it's called
>> "indepedence day." it's a celebration of the
>> independence of the united states. you don't have to
>> take a stance against imperialism to celebrate the
>> united states' victory against england in the fight
>> for sovereignty.
>
>But you do have to have a rather "creative" conscience
>to do it with a straight face, having even a remote
>idea of certain trends in our foreign policy.
nonsense. millions of normal americans celebrated this weekend without suffering from bad conscience. you're completely out of touch with reality.
quoted 8 lines A victory over imperialism is something to be>A victory over imperialism is something to be
>celebrated, however, some of us have a rather bad
>taste in out mouths considering "independence" is
>something people outside of Walmart and our borders
>deserve and a quick run down the list of Dictators on
>the United States' payroll (past and present) leads us
>to a conflist. That is unless other races do not
>deserve independence.
i do not agree with the federal government's foreign policy. of course, america's current foreign relations are wholly unrelated to the fight for independence and self-government of the united states.
quoted 16 lines stop taking cheap shots at the united states,>> stop taking cheap shots at the united states,
>
>I suppose it is also a cheap shot to point out that
>the mustard gas used against the Kurds by Saddam in
>1988 (that is, before he was 'evil') was part of a
>military aid package supplied by the United States,
>which kept coming well after these disgusting actions.
> Hell, we even gave him agricultural aid in light of
>the crops ruined by this gas attack.
>This is, mind you, the same attack that was, time and
>time again, thrown up at us as the end all be all
>reason to take him out. Disgusting propaganda
>understood by anyone who actually takes the time to
>look into the history.
>But that point is so cheap it is not even worth
>mentioning, right?
don't be an ass. it's bad enough i've got this other fool recommending noam chomsky to me. he made quite foolish generalizations about the united states and about thanksgiving (of all the subjects to choose..).
quoted 6 lines because you appear - or give yourself away as ->> because you appear - or give yourself away as -
>> spiteful and ridiculous.
>
>Kind of like how Howard Zinn looks ridiculus next to
>such modern day jingoist intellects as Sean Hannity
>or, bless her ego, Ann Coulter.
yeah, the three of them are ridiculous compared to just about anybody.
- sean
np: loess - 3d concepts
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