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Mon, 7 Oct 2002 22:33:27 -0700 (PDT)
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Re: [idm] The truth about show shit
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yo, everybody, chillout! wouldnt you say that going to a music show is somewhat like going to see a movie? In most cases, You pay money to see and hear the performance. Arent you disturbed when people speak over it? Especially electronic music, which is more of an audio experience than a visual one. THat's my personal opinion...i think there's 2 solutions to this problem: a. provide an area of separation between the social and performance spaces. b. blast the fuckin music so there wont be any probs w/ people talkin shit over it..haha@! d --- Aaron Ximm <ghede@well.com> wrote:
quoted 62 lines Whats this incessant need to control the listener?> > Whats this incessant need to control the listener? > > Notice I said control the *space,* i.e. my house. > > I decide to make a place people can listen, not a > club/bar, since it's > first about the music, not the socializing. > Everyone who runs a > performance space decides conciously or unconciously > what kind of space > they want. I don't see that this is 'controlling the > listener.' > > > Lecturing the people who come to your performance > on how to enjoy music? > > How stuck up! > > Lecturing? huh? Who said anything about lecturing? > By telling people to > be quiet during sets!? I've been at tons of shows > where that's a lecture > a lot of people could have used, and no apologies > about it. > > I think this thread got started because someone was > complaining that they > went to enjoy Mum (their own way) and couldn't > because other people were > in the space who made that difficult/impossible: ie > were being rude to the > people around them. Ie who came there to get fucked > up, not to listen to > Mum. In other words, they had to fight the > environment to listen. > > Hoping for (or in my case building) spaces where > that kind of rudeness is > discouraged hardly seems to be some kind of > holier-than-thou gesture. > I don't care how people choose to listen, as long as > they don't ruin > things for other people. People sleep at half my > shows during quiet sets! > > I 'lectured': > > >To this end I try to plant 'cues' to people that > they're at a concert, not > > >at a bar/club... including no beer, making it > dark during the > > > > > >All about creating context and steering > consensual expectations. > > >This is the advantage I guess of controlling a > space! > > aaron > > ghede@well.com > http://www.quietamerican.org > > >
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