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From:
ugly and mean
To:
, , Adam Piontek
Date:
Tue, 26 Jun 2001 15:56:50 -0700 (PDT)
Subject:
Re: [idm] IDM sub-genres: variety is nice: Record Camp is nicer
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quoted 11 lines I think that creating sub genres isn't going to decrease the> I think that creating sub genres isn't going to decrease the > variety you are going to hear when playing out. That depends more > on the dj or musician as opposed to what the music is called. One > can play more than one sub genre; just because a sound has been > further classified, does not mean there can be no inter-mixing. > > I guess my feeling is that IDM is getting to be an awfully large > playing field; it encompasses a lot of different types of music. > There is a pretty darn big gap between Arovane and Venetian Snares > and I think it is reasonable to discuss different ways to classify > the obvious musical branching within the genre.
I'll never understand why people that listen to experimental mostly instrumental music insist on coming up with names to describe it. Let's face it, most people that don't live in big progressive cities with great music scenes are going to find their Autechre in the "rock/pop" section at the record store anyways. The only people that should be worrying about naming genres are people that work at record stores and can't figure out where to file music. As far as that goes, I like the way Rasputin out here in the bay area does it; they just have a big section called 'avant garde' with everything from Convertor to Monolake to Painkiller to Kid 606 in it. That's a fun section to look through. Some people might disagree with me on this point, but I've always looked at it like this: Experimental electronic music has been around for, what, 60 years? I'm thinking back to like John Cage (who I admit I know nothing about). To try to turn 60 years of experimentation into a genre or category seems like a real mistake to me. It also seems like something that could hinder progress. I wouldn't have a problem with people trying to make a genre out of a certain type of IDM (distorted breakbeats, glitches, sweet child-like melodies) which is a very distinct and easily recognizable sound, but it seems ridiculous to try lump that stuff with Oval, or Autechre, or minimal stuff like Brinkmann or Monolake. I'd advocate seperating what I basically see as Aphex Twin wannabe music from everything else and just calling that stuff "IDM" and leaving the rest of it in the misc avant garde section before trying to lump all types of non-commercial electronic music into one pile. Then again, opinions are like... __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org