--- "Kevin Ryan @" <i__oo__@hotmail.com> wrote:
quoted 3 lines <<the firing of Carl Craig is a direct attack on
> <<the firing of Carl Craig is a direct attack on
> what i thought we all held
> so close to our hearts, our music.>>
<< Oh, boo hoo. Mr. Hawtin, allow me to introduce you
to capitalism. Capitalism, Mr. Hawtin. No, the
pleasure is mine. >>
We are all familiar with capitalism. The majority of
the recording industry has demonstrated that it's more
about shifting units than it is about art. It's
pretty much the "underground artists" that are keeping
it real. Richie Hawtin sounded sincere about keeping
the music integrity of the event. I feel the same
way, as I'm sure most everyone that's on this list and
313 that went feel.
<< Craig's dismissal wasn't the critical juncture of
"direct attack" on underground music; >>
Not on a global scale, no. On the local Detroit scene
it may feel like a "direct attack". The Stateside
recognition of Detroit and it's history has always
been underrepresented. To have an event that
celebrates it's history and scene turn into something
commercial would be a sad thing. Therefore, I can
understand what Richie Hawtin was expressing.
<< it was when Craig sold his soul to the Co.s a
couple years ago that the real selling out occurred.
quoted 1 line
>>
Artist-wise the event didn't seem like a sellout in my
opinion. I was quite impressed with the line-up which
was Carl Craig's doing. I don't really care if it
took having a few cars or a few Barcardi ads to make
it happen. The MUSIC is what matters!
<< The rest isn't particularly surprising. Although
there was inevitably personal politics involved, the
corporations honestly realize that they don't have a
clue about what's cool re: electronic music... that's
why they deferred to a local techno magnate in the
first place. >>
The fact that something as cool as this happened in
the U.S. is quite surprising. The fact that it was a
free event of this magnitude and music integrity is
mind-blowing. Sure there will be forces that want to
jump in and try and make massive $$$ on it and milk it
for all they can. That doesn't mean the artists and
labels involved shouldn't put a fight to keep it real.
<< They could've booked Oakey/Moby from day one but
they knew better. >>
That's will likely be the line up next year, and Kid
Rock.
<< Besides, Carl's hands aren't totally clean in all
of this, and we have to remember he's the one who
decided to sign a deal with the Devil. >>
I wish someone in California would sell their soul to
the Devil! Even in Arizona...I'll make the drive!
Really good events like this are very rare.
< He thrust himself into the middle of the corporate
melee and now he's paying for it. >
It's not uncommon for corporations to donate money if
it improves their image. Not to mention they expose
their products to public.
<< Among all this facile corporation bashing most
people seem to have forgotten that the corporations
are the only reason that DEMF is possible in the first
place. >>
I must have missed the corporate bashing bit. Many
corporations sponsor events. What's your point? Are
you saying Carl deserves getting canned because he
worked with the city and sponsors?
Don't have time to continue...I got a radio show to
do...
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