In a message dated 14/04/97 22:03:46, you write:
quoted 1 line That's not what I meant you dumb AOLer !> That's not what I meant you dumb AOLer !
Wahey!
quoted 4 lines I'm not even a punk - I just> I'm not even a punk - I just
> want to continue liking IDM and not feel I have to be civilised as well.
> (What a burden). Punk may be dead in the states, you caught on over 20
> years late anyway.
AOL is an international service, I live in Manchester.
I'm not saying I know it all about punk, but I got the general idea that punk
was really born in the states, through groups like New York Dolls and obscure
garage bands etc etc.
BUT let's not go into that any further PLEASE
quoted 2 lines There is a scene here in the UK, it's quite small and> There is a scene here in the UK, it's quite small and
> it the music gets called Hardcore (nothing to do with techno etc btw).
Yeah but this is just a bunch of students who think they're 'hardcore' but
don't have any idea, it's nothing to do with music, all a load of shit if you
ask me.
Guitar (or acoustic, rock, whatever) music can be beautiful and affecting,
but how many musicians are emerging now with any real talent? It seems that
anyone who can coax 500 decibels of feedback from their P.A, or whose
wah-pedal movements flurry into a blur, is seen as a guitar hero, where the
truth is that a monkey could make that kind of sound, it requires no skill.
We have moronic John-Squire-A-Likes (who was crap) and cliche-diseased
Hendrix-oids. Guitars have gone NOWHERE for the past 15 years, this is why
no-one can be arsed with them any more.
quoted 3 lines A lot of the people> A lot of the people
> who were attracted to the acid house scene and became artists in techno
> & IDM were punks before all that
Who, Boy George?
I'd say that notion is a load of crap, I can't think of any techno musician
who was a punk (or at least was brave enough to say so), the older generation
were generally into industrial electronic music and jazz/funk (check May
Atkins Mills), and the newer generation grew up on electro and hip hop
(Global Communication, LFO, me)
To me, although techno is supposed to have a 'punk' ethic (i.e use what you
can, music from bedrooms) I don't see much of a connection. Punk wasn't
about making something new, or even about making music, it was about making a
social stance, about decibel levels, about social aggressiveness and
destruction - it seems to be the opposite to what the techno musicians are
about.
quoted 2 lines so you might want to think about what> so you might want to think about what
> punk is as you most likely have less idea than some punks do of IDM !
I'd beat Kris Needs in the Phlexi Challenge any day of the week.
By the way, I'd like to say that I'd throw a party if Kris Needs was burned
at the stake today.
Cheerio!
What's On The Sound Burger?
Something off the second u-Ziq LP