On Tue, 21 Jan 1997, basscadet wrote:
quoted 1 line It seems its always the same argument over and over. There are no> It seems its always the same argument over and over. There are noquoted 1 line blah,blah,blah is a waste of time.> blah,blah,blah is a waste of time.
Here is a different way of looking at it: who invented the
"machine-aesthetic"? I mean the whole sensibility that blatantly
machinel-made music was cool.. this is a cornerstone of IDM as I see it,
afterall, intelligent dance music could be made without electronics and
machines if the musicians were skilled enough, however, the use of
blatantly "elektronik" sounds is a big part of the whole aesthetic, isn't
it? So I'd say that the lineage would be...
Satie->Cage/Stockhausen->Kraftwerk->Detroit->(from here everything
ping-pongs between European countries and the US, though Detroit is still
rather isolated in this aesthetic)
I just saw a 95 film on a newer Stockhausen peice and remembered how
everything he came out with was on the heels of Cage pretty much, so I
lump them together. Since CAge was American and Stocky was German(?),
that whole duality goes back to before the detroit/europe arguement
actually. rock has been that was too from early on. Seems like Americans
blindly invent stuff but only Europeans have the taste or education to
figure out the wheat from the chaff...imho
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