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H James Harkins
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Thu, 24 Oct 1996 10:37:17 -0400 (EDT)
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Re: (idm) Re: Autechre (was the fall of WARP (or not))
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On 24 Oct 1996 phaakmat@marketique.nl wrote:
quoted 2 lines What's the point in layering loops? After hearing each loop once,> What's the point in layering loops? After hearing each loop once, > well, you can just recreate the entire piece in your head.
This is a problem? (A problem with the *music*, I mean.)
quoted 5 lines It's just> It's just > addition/subtraction. If there is no progression over time other than > this layering thing, well, then I'd just as rather not waste time > sitting through the entire composition where it fundamentally exists > of a twenty second loop.
I disagree with you 100% about this. Such a composition does *not* "fundamentally exist" as only a 20 second loop. In effect, what you're saying is that meaning in music can only be found in pitch and rhythm structures--either that repetition has no effect on the listener, or that this effect is totally insignificant. I like the effect of repetition; if you don't in this case, that's your opinion, but to reduce a repetition-driven musical process to just a short loop... I can't see how that assertion is anything other than simply incorrect.
quoted 3 lines But the Ae-music is so superficial.. It does not, at any one time,> But the Ae-music is so superficial.. It does not, at any one time, > seem to demand anything. It's just feel-good thumps and moans and > groans.
You have your opinion; in *mine*, I'd rather hear "feel-good thumps..." etc. than *self-consciously* demanding music. Most days of the week, anyway. To me, in fact, "just feel-good" music is *more valuable* and *more meaningful* than, what should we call it, "profound" music. Or, I can't stand profundity unless it also makes me feel good. If you want to see that as superficial, you're welcome to, but I'll still think you're dead wrong about it! J PS Ironically, the first time I heard Autechre, I thought it wasn't feel-good *enough*, but that was quite a while ago, well before "Tri Repetae"... perhaps I should give that one a listen... ________ \ / | "Sweetie...... sweetie. How come when she put H. James Harkins | the phone to her ear, all I could hear was the jharkins@acpub.duke.edu | ocean?" -- Edina Monsoon on her \/ | ex-husband Marshall's latest girlfriend