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From:
David Jones
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Sun, 28 Jul 1996 23:56:38 -0700 (PDT)
Subject:
(idm) Bandwagon-jumping, was Re: DJ Ben Watt
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On Sun, 28 Jul 1996 20:02:33 -0700 Greg Earle wrote,
quoted 4 lines music and wasn't doing Bass Kittens in 1989? I guess 3 Phase's "Der Klang> music and wasn't doing Bass Kittens in 1989? I guess 3 Phase's "Der Klang > Der Familie" isn't a seminal Techno record because, after all, they were just > former Industrialites (Gerechtigkeits Liga) who became "bandwagon-jumpers" > in 1991/92?
N O F U C K I N G W A Y ! (shouting and surprise intentional!) I just can't believe this! Wild, wild stuff, I did not know this! I used to hear G.L. tracks all the time on the Pain Bank in Tucson. I never ever would have made the connection... thanks for the info. And your point is totally valid. What defines a bandwagon jumper is not whether or not an artist experiments with knowledge gained through listening to new music, but how and _why_ they incorporate new ways of looking at music into their _own_ style. If all you do is _copy_ then you're a jumper, but if you add to the genre by adding your own unique voice, then you're just doing what musicians have _always_ done. The first producers of d 'n' b could be said to be breakbeat jumpers, because they lift their beats from others, but the point is what they've added to the beats... I always think of science and math when I contemplate this phenomena: once a way of doing things (an algorithm) is discovered, other scientists use this information to further their research in ways not dreamt up by the original discoverer. Once a way of doing things becomes public knowledge (it would have been pretty hard to d 'n' b before computer sequencers and samplers) it is up to artists to see how far they can push the art in new directions. This is generally considered to be a good thing, but I could be wrong... -- David "a former industrialist" Jones onnow: Psychophysicist playing on "Discrete music" on KPFA - new project between Adi Newton and A.M. McKenzie on Side Effects... (how's that for industrial references?)