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GEOTRAX
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Mon, 01 Jul 96 13:03:00 -0000
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Re: (idm) the M is for M
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Miles, ME>> I loved this last part; "anti-human music." Brilliant. A new genre - ME>> something like mills (hard techno) and cylob's industrial folk songs. ME>It's hardly a new genre. Go directly to Merzbow and follow the thread ME>back from there. You can hop over to grindcore if you'd like something a ME>bit more rhythmic. There's a difference, and it's something a lot of people will never notice. ME>> > I'm sure I could come up ME>> > with a simple computer algorithm that could churn out disks at ME>> > interesting as the Liquid room mix all day long. And some time soon they'll make programs you can have a human-like conversation with. Of course, then people won't bother talking to each other. Where is the limit of 'acceptability' and 'taste' as regards to computer/electronic assistance in music? Does it stop at algorithmic composition, computer sound generation, computer sequencing, synthesisers, or somewhere inbetween? Your idea of music having to have a human element is just an extension of that old argument that music is only real when it's played live. It's the same thing. Whether you find a piece of music good shouldn't depend on who or what made it - it should depend on whether you like it, whether it catches your ear. I should imagine that a lot of techno and idm musicians have tracks inspired by, or containing elements of, random spewings of samplers or sequencers on loop. So much is based on chance nowadays that the idea of consuming art produced by computer can't be ignored. ME>I'm sure it would be extremely difficult to program a computer to mix ME>records like this. It wouldn't be hard at all to teach one to beat an ME>808 like that and drop abstract analogue farts and squiggles. How can you be a part of this group when you obviously show such contempt for electronic music? 'Analogue farts and squggles' is another of those Bon Jovi cheesehead phrases that I see far too often, alongside messages lumping Cylob with grindcore because it has crashes, clangs and distortion in it.. ME>Amazingly enough, Mills' stuff is considered dance music by those ME>challenged enough to enjoy twitching spastically to a bored drum machine ME>for hours. And this is just plain nastiness. So you don't like Mills. What's the point in telling everybody, unless you have a good argument to back it up? Cheers, SjaY. *Fido* 2:250/151 *E-Mail* Geotrax@jukjoint.warp.co.uk ... 'AB4.2' - AFX ___ * UniQWK v4.1 * The Windows Mail Reader