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From:
Eric Hill
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Date:
Wed, 20 Dec 1995 23:05:27 -0800
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Re: (idm) Re: Ae Jungle
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quoted 5 lines Aaron Michelson wrote:>Aaron Michelson wrote: > >> No, actually. Speedy percussion loops should not necessarily be mistaken >> as jungle beats. I've found that jungle is very distinguishable from all >> other styles.... "stud" is definitely NOT jungle :)
At 09:38 PM 12/20/95 -0500, <gd@interramp.com> wrote:
quoted 4 lines main pulses fall on the downbeat of 1 (the kick and the roll), and>main pulses fall on the downbeat of 1 (the kick and the roll), and >then on the upbeat of 2 (the roll again). This is a common pattern >for kicks on a lot of jungle tracks, and (come to think of it) it >happens to be the kick pattern for "Second Bad Vilbel".
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quoted 7 lines Obviously the instrumentation is quite different than most jungle,>Obviously the instrumentation is quite different than most jungle, >but that doesn't mean we can't call the track jungl-ish, just as >parts of AHB1 sound similar to jungle but don't follow it precisely. >What makes jungle jungle? Does it just have to be high-pitched/tinny- >sounding drums (preferably a light kick and two or more snares) and >a dub bass line? To me the essence of the beat is more indicative; >it's not just a matter of speedy percussion, as you said.
A defining characteristic of jungle is its use of the break, invented by jazz (drummers), used by hip-hop (samplers) and built upon by jungle (sequencers). The sounds you mention are surface traits that are evolved on a day-to-day basis and the rhythms are basic syncopation exercises that are among the first 5 drumset patterns a fledgling percussionist learns and have been used by most forms of music at one time or another. It's the cut that matters; the rest is (fucking tasty) ear-candy. eh onnow: The Exciting World of...the Octagon Man (Electron Industries)