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2015-12-30 20:24Nicholas D What do we really call IDM these days?
└─ 2015-12-30 21:09Connor Higgins Re: What do we really call IDM these days?
└─ 2015-12-30 21:16Nicholas D Re: What do we really call IDM these days?
└─ 2015-12-30 22:28Damien Fry Re: What do we really call IDM these days?
└─ 2015-12-31 02:04mehmet.ismail85@googlemail.com Re: What do we really call IDM these days?
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2015-12-30 20:24Nicholas DHi guys & girls, Just been thinking and saw the post about Underworld... bit of a grey are
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Hi guys & girls, Just been thinking and saw the post about Underworld... bit of a grey area to me as to what is really IDM these days?! What are some very new artists that you would recommend as must hear IDM? Would you consider something like this as IDM?: https://soundcloud.com/mindfieldrecords/dont-mind-us-4-years-celebration-limited-edition-cd-cd1-preview-mfield037 I'm curious... Is it just something that sounds more unique and buzzes the senses or is there specific criteria for you? Cheers Nicholas -- Label Manager Mind Field Records Est. Berlin 2010 - A field of Potential - A love of the less mainstream... nick@mindfieldrecords.net UK: +44 (0)7918 974 934 DE: +49 (0)1577 891 7291 AUS: +61 (0)490 203 973 SKYPE: nickisglobalwarning www.mindfieldrecords.net www.soundcloud.com/mindfieldrecords www.mindfieldrecords.net/WordpressBlog/news/
2015-12-30 21:09Connor HigginsI wouldn't call underworld idm, but I can clearly see why they would warrant a discussion
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I wouldn't call underworld idm, but I can clearly see why they would warrant a discussion here. As for what idm is, you're definitely not going to find consensus. I've heard folks clearly separate the aphex/ae/clark timbre-focused stuff from the more breakbeat/breakcore a la Aaron funk junk. But of course a lot of those artists muddle in both puddles. As for that mix, yeah, I'd put that somewhere on the spectrum. On Dec 30, 2015 10:24 AM, "Nicholas D" <nick@mindfieldrecords.net> wrote:
quoted 34 lines Hi guys & girls,> Hi guys & girls, > Just been thinking and saw the post about Underworld... bit of a grey > area to me as to what is really IDM these days?! > > What are some very new artists that you would recommend as must hear IDM? > > Would you consider something like this as IDM?: > > https://soundcloud.com/mindfieldrecords/dont-mind-us-4-years-celebration-limited-edition-cd-cd1-preview-mfield037 > > I'm curious... Is it just something that sounds more unique and buzzes the > senses or is there specific criteria for you? > > Cheers > Nicholas > > -- > > Label Manager > Mind Field Records > Est. Berlin 2010 - A field of Potential - A love of the less mainstream... > > nick@mindfieldrecords.net > > UK: +44 (0)7918 974 934 > DE: +49 (0)1577 891 7291 > AUS: +61 (0)490 203 973 > SKYPE: nickisglobalwarning > > www.mindfieldrecords.net > www.soundcloud.com/mindfieldrecords > www.mindfieldrecords.net/WordpressBlog/news/ > >
2015-12-30 21:16Nicholas DThanks for your thoughts... Yes I would agree that Underworld deserves some Spotlight - ev
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Thanks for your thoughts... Yes I would agree that Underworld deserves some Spotlight - even in the IDM realm. Hard to define dance music that goes a bit beyond formulaic boring bullshit... I guess that's my definition... Although I agree artists like Clark / Aphex / Squarepusher are indeed fulfilling the Intelligent criteria, I feel that there are now a wealth of options... Glad you think that the music in the link fits in the Spectrum ;) -- Label Manager Mind Field Records Est. Berlin 2010 - A field of Potential - A love of the less mainstream... nick@mindfieldrecords.net UK: +44 (0)7918 974 934 DE: +49 (0)1577 891 7291 AUS: +61 (0)490 203 973 SKYPE: nickisglobalwarning www.mindfieldrecords.net www.soundcloud.com/mindfieldrecords www.mindfieldrecords.net/WordpressBlog/news/ On 30 Dec 2015, at 22:09, Connor Higgins wrote:
quoted 35 lines I wouldn't call underworld idm, but I can clearly see why they would warrant a discus> I wouldn't call underworld idm, but I can clearly see why they would warrant a discussion here. As for what idm is, you're definitely not going to find consensus. I've heard folks clearly separate the aphex/ae/clark timbre-focused stuff from the more breakbeat/breakcore a la Aaron funk junk. But of course a lot of those artists muddle in both puddles. > > As for that mix, yeah, I'd put that somewhere on the spectrum. > > On Dec 30, 2015 10:24 AM, "Nicholas D" <nick@mindfieldrecords.net> wrote: > Hi guys & girls, > Just been thinking and saw the post about Underworld... bit of a grey area to me as to what is really IDM these days?! > > What are some very new artists that you would recommend as must hear IDM? > > Would you consider something like this as IDM?: > https://soundcloud.com/mindfieldrecords/dont-mind-us-4-years-celebration-limited-edition-cd-cd1-preview-mfield037 > > I'm curious... Is it just something that sounds more unique and buzzes the senses or is there specific criteria for you? > > Cheers > Nicholas > > -- > > Label Manager > Mind Field Records > Est. Berlin 2010 - A field of Potential - A love of the less mainstream... > > nick@mindfieldrecords.net > > UK: +44 (0)7918 974 934 > DE: +49 (0)1577 891 7291 > AUS: +61 (0)490 203 973 > SKYPE: nickisglobalwarning > > www.mindfieldrecords.net > www.soundcloud.com/mindfieldrecords > www.mindfieldrecords.net/WordpressBlog/news/ >
2015-12-30 22:28Damien FryI think IDM has really blossomed in the last few years. Explorations into a variety of new
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Thu, 31 Dec 2015 09:28:41 +1100
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I think IDM has really blossomed in the last few years. Explorations into a variety of new sounds has helped it to flourish again and even gain a bit of mainstream recognition through some of the better produced trap, moombahton and other world beats. Here's a short selection of some of the best 'fringe' IDM I've heard in the last few years: http://music.renamusic.com/album/driftwood-2 Rena Jones - Driftwood This is IDM at its very best. Very few artists can match her prowess with interesting drum layers; but she takes it to the next level by sampling her violin, stand up bass and cello into the mix. This is sort of like that YouTube gal that's playing violin to Dubstep and such, but done much classier. Truly a gem and a must listen. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MQ2qEah8Fns Telefon Tel Aviv: Fahrenheit Fair Enough... This is another masterpiece, but old... 2001 old. Still, trypt to the max and one of my all time fave albums. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1bBxHmzrQ_8 Sora - Re.Sort. This is becoming increasingly difficult to find... or even find reference to. https://soundcloud.com/soraweb http://www.intervall-audio.com/artists/sora.html His Soundcloud and Label's website. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yKBhz7yccwU Jaga Jazzist - Kitty Wu It's hard to say if Jaga Jazzist is technically classified as IDM. I mean really, what is IDM, but electronic infused jazz? This is all live... I guess the theramin bass lines might just slip it under the radar. But listen to those drums! That's 3 drummers, each doing their own intricate little bits. If you like an organic feel to your IDM, this is definitely a must https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=69p-ER5VOvc Above song done live. Quality isn't great, but notice how close to the above track this is. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CKVpZNxVWA4 Charles Lloyd - Caroline No Well we've already danced around jazz a bit, so let's go full on contemporary jazz. This is likely my favourite song of all time--and the song that convinced me that IDM and jazz can really be one and the same thing. Take special note of the drummer: Eric Harland. I've been keeping a keen eye on this guy for about a year now and very impressed by everything that he's invited to be a part of. Being invited to be part of the Charles Lloyd Quartet is already astounding, but he's also teamed up with Chris Potter and Dave Holland--all names to take note of if you enjoy this song. I've introduced dozens of people to this song and so far haven't found a soul who wasn't taken by its magic https://soundcloud.com/ringsounds/isao-suzuki-dj-kensei-new-alchemy-album-teaser Isao Suzuki w/ DJ Kensei. This is only available on iTunes... Guh... Bug it's a fusion of Kensei on tables or pc or... who knows... something electronic with the legendary Isao Suzuki on stand up bass. Not the best selection from this album, but there isn't much to choose from without buying the album... https://sango.bandcamp.com/album/otra-vez-ep Sango - Otra Vez This is Latin-American trap at its finest. From the drum layering through fantastic bass, this album rocks. Sure it reeks a bit of the 'drop' mentality. It hits hard, but remains very interesting and pleasing to the ears. https://sango.bandcamp.com/album/da-rocinha-2 Also love this album. 'tis the album that got me into Sango in the first place https://sweetvalley.bandcamp.com/album/eternal-champ Don't think Trap belongs in IDM? Try this out. Heavily sampled from old NES games and 80's flix. This is the very album that got me into trap. Still not a lot of trap I really enjoy, but this really does it for me. On Thu, Dec 31, 2015 at 8:16 AM, Nicholas D <nick@mindfieldrecords.net> wrote:
quoted 76 lines Thanks for your thoughts...> Thanks for your thoughts... > > Yes I would agree that Underworld deserves some Spotlight - even in the > IDM realm. > Hard to define dance music that goes a bit beyond formulaic boring > bullshit... I guess that's my definition... > > Although I agree artists like Clark / Aphex / Squarepusher are indeed > fulfilling the Intelligent criteria, I feel that there are now a wealth of > options... > > Glad you think that the music in the link fits in the Spectrum ;) > > -- > > Label Manager > Mind Field Records > Est. Berlin 2010 - A field of Potential - A love of the less mainstream... > > nick@mindfieldrecords.net > > UK: +44 (0)7918 974 934 > DE: +49 (0)1577 891 7291 > AUS: +61 (0)490 203 973 > SKYPE: nickisglobalwarning > > www.mindfieldrecords.net > www.soundcloud.com/mindfieldrecords > www.mindfieldrecords.net/WordpressBlog/news/ > > On 30 Dec 2015, at 22:09, Connor Higgins wrote: > > I wouldn't call underworld idm, but I can clearly see why they would > warrant a discussion here. As for what idm is, you're definitely not going > to find consensus. I've heard folks clearly separate the aphex/ae/clark > timbre-focused stuff from the more breakbeat/breakcore a la Aaron funk > junk. But of course a lot of those artists muddle in both puddles. > > As for that mix, yeah, I'd put that somewhere on the spectrum. > On Dec 30, 2015 10:24 AM, "Nicholas D" <nick@mindfieldrecords.net> wrote: > >> Hi guys & girls, >> Just been thinking and saw the post about Underworld... bit of a grey >> area to me as to what is really IDM these days?! >> >> What are some very new artists that you would recommend as must hear IDM? >> >> Would you consider something like this as IDM?: >> >> https://soundcloud.com/mindfieldrecords/dont-mind-us-4-years-celebration-limited-edition-cd-cd1-preview-mfield037 >> >> I'm curious... Is it just something that sounds more unique and buzzes >> the senses or is there specific criteria for you? >> >> Cheers >> Nicholas >> >> -- >> >> Label Manager >> Mind Field Records >> Est. Berlin 2010 - A field of Potential - A love of the less mainstream... >> >> nick@mindfieldrecords.net >> >> UK: +44 (0)7918 974 934 >> DE: +49 (0)1577 891 7291 >> AUS: +61 (0)490 203 973 >> SKYPE: nickisglobalwarning >> >> www.mindfieldrecords.net >> www.soundcloud.com/mindfieldrecords >> www.mindfieldrecords.net/WordpressBlog/news/ >> >> >
2015-12-31 02:04mehmet.ismail85@googlemail.comA lot of what is commonly recognisable as IDM - along the lines of AFX/Squarepusher/Ae/Cla
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A lot of what is commonly recognisable as IDM - along the lines of AFX/Squarepusher/Ae/Clark - seems to induce instant irritation and headaches in people that don't like it. Connor mentioned timbre; it just grates on some people. There are unconventional sounds that just annoy and depth that people don't see or can't be bothered with. I think IDM is more boundary pushing than any other form of electronic music. To me, other forms of electronic music do not undergo any significant change without a spark of IDM to ignite it. So while not all music by IDM artists is IDM, we recognise the IDM spark in those artists and in some tracks by other artists who we don't consider to be IDM artists. I say "we." Perhaps some consensus on these ideas? Mem
quoted 101 lines On 30 Dec 2015, at 22:28, Damien Fry <khoogyra@gmail.com> wrote:> On 30 Dec 2015, at 22:28, Damien Fry <khoogyra@gmail.com> wrote: > > I think IDM has really blossomed in the last few years. Explorations into a variety of new sounds has helped it to flourish again and even gain a bit of mainstream recognition through some of the better produced trap, moombahton and other world beats. Here's a short selection of some of the best 'fringe' IDM I've heard in the last few years: > > http://music.renamusic.com/album/driftwood-2 > Rena Jones - Driftwood This is IDM at its very best. Very few artists can match her prowess with interesting drum layers; but she takes it to the next level by sampling her violin, stand up bass and cello into the mix. This is sort of like that YouTube gal that's playing violin to Dubstep and such, but done much classier. Truly a gem and a must listen. > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MQ2qEah8Fns > Telefon Tel Aviv: Fahrenheit Fair Enough... This is another masterpiece, but old... 2001 old. Still, trypt to the max and one of my all time fave albums. > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1bBxHmzrQ_8 > Sora - Re.Sort. This is becoming increasingly difficult to find... or even find reference to. > > https://soundcloud.com/soraweb http://www.intervall-audio.com/artists/sora.html > His Soundcloud and Label's website. > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yKBhz7yccwU > Jaga Jazzist - Kitty Wu It's hard to say if Jaga Jazzist is technically classified as IDM. I mean really, what is IDM, but electronic infused jazz? This is all live... I guess the theramin bass lines might just slip it under the radar. But listen to those drums! That's 3 drummers, each doing their own intricate little bits. If you like an organic feel to your IDM, this is definitely a must > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=69p-ER5VOvc > Above song done live. Quality isn't great, but notice how close to the above track this is. > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CKVpZNxVWA4 > Charles Lloyd - Caroline No Well we've already danced around jazz a bit, so let's go full on contemporary jazz. This is likely my favourite song of all time--and the song that convinced me that IDM and jazz can really be one and the same thing. Take special note of the drummer: Eric Harland. I've been keeping a keen eye on this guy for about a year now and very impressed by everything that he's invited to be a part of. Being invited to be part of the Charles Lloyd Quartet is already astounding, but he's also teamed up with Chris Potter and Dave Holland--all names to take note of if you enjoy this song. I've introduced dozens of people to this song and so far haven't found a soul who wasn't taken by its magic > > https://soundcloud.com/ringsounds/isao-suzuki-dj-kensei-new-alchemy-album-teaser > Isao Suzuki w/ DJ Kensei. This is only available on iTunes... Guh... Bug it's a fusion of Kensei on tables or pc or... who knows... something electronic with the legendary Isao Suzuki on stand up bass. Not the best selection from this album, but there isn't much to choose from without buying the album... > > https://sango.bandcamp.com/album/otra-vez-ep > Sango - Otra Vez This is Latin-American trap at its finest. From the drum layering through fantastic bass, this album rocks. Sure it reeks a bit of the 'drop' mentality. It hits hard, but remains very interesting and pleasing to the ears. > > https://sango.bandcamp.com/album/da-rocinha-2 > Also love this album. 'tis the album that got me into Sango in the first place > > https://sweetvalley.bandcamp.com/album/eternal-champ > Don't think Trap belongs in IDM? Try this out. Heavily sampled from old NES games and 80's flix. This is the very album that got me into trap. Still not a lot of trap I really enjoy, but this really does it for me. > >> On Thu, Dec 31, 2015 at 8:16 AM, Nicholas D <nick@mindfieldrecords.net> wrote: >> Thanks for your thoughts... >> >> Yes I would agree that Underworld deserves some Spotlight - even in the IDM realm. >> Hard to define dance music that goes a bit beyond formulaic boring bullshit... I guess that's my definition... >> >> Although I agree artists like Clark / Aphex / Squarepusher are indeed fulfilling the Intelligent criteria, I feel that there are now a wealth of options... >> >> Glad you think that the music in the link fits in the Spectrum ;) >> >> -- >> >> Label Manager >> Mind Field Records >> Est. Berlin 2010 - A field of Potential - A love of the less mainstream... >> >> nick@mindfieldrecords.net >> >> UK: +44 (0)7918 974 934 >> DE: +49 (0)1577 891 7291 >> AUS: +61 (0)490 203 973 >> SKYPE: nickisglobalwarning >> >> www.mindfieldrecords.net >> www.soundcloud.com/mindfieldrecords >> www.mindfieldrecords.net/WordpressBlog/news/ >> >>> On 30 Dec 2015, at 22:09, Connor Higgins wrote: >>> >>> I wouldn't call underworld idm, but I can clearly see why they would warrant a discussion here. As for what idm is, you're definitely not going to find consensus. I've heard folks clearly separate the aphex/ae/clark timbre-focused stuff from the more breakbeat/breakcore a la Aaron funk junk. But of course a lot of those artists muddle in both puddles. >>> >>> As for that mix, yeah, I'd put that somewhere on the spectrum. >>> >>>> On Dec 30, 2015 10:24 AM, "Nicholas D" <nick@mindfieldrecords.net> wrote: >>>> Hi guys & girls, >>>> Just been thinking and saw the post about Underworld... bit of a grey area to me as to what is really IDM these days?! >>>> >>>> What are some very new artists that you would recommend as must hear IDM? >>>> >>>> Would you consider something like this as IDM?: >>>> https://soundcloud.com/mindfieldrecords/dont-mind-us-4-years-celebration-limited-edition-cd-cd1-preview-mfield037 >>>> >>>> I'm curious... Is it just something that sounds more unique and buzzes the senses or is there specific criteria for you? >>>> >>>> Cheers >>>> Nicholas >>>> >>>> -- >>>> >>>> Label Manager >>>> Mind Field Records >>>> Est. Berlin 2010 - A field of Potential - A love of the less mainstream... >>>> >>>> nick@mindfieldrecords.net >>>> >>>> UK: +44 (0)7918 974 934 >>>> DE: +49 (0)1577 891 7291 >>>> AUS: +61 (0)490 203 973 >>>> SKYPE: nickisglobalwarning >>>> >>>> www.mindfieldrecords.net >>>> www.soundcloud.com/mindfieldrecords >>>> www.mindfieldrecords.net/WordpressBlog/news/ >