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Kinda OT, but I was thinking about upcoming live electronic music shows and couldn't help but compare with the Flaming Lips show last week in Montreal. Why can't more live shows be like this one? It must be the best live experience I have seen in my life. I must say that the last time they came to my hometown of Montreal was during the 1994 Lolapalooza tour (forgettable performance). It's a great experience, with strong visuals a la Boards of Canada, dancing fans on stage, equipped with fur costumes and big flashlights, huge balloons flying around, energy-packed Wayne Coyne (singer), that came up with so many things to say and show. Now I think about some shows I have seen in the past, like Clayton behind a small laptop, Vibert in total darkness, and countless other acts that don't give a shit if you're watching or not. I know I can't compare them with the music of the Flips, don't want to start on the same subject again, I guess I was just too excited about their show and had to write about it. poussinfrais -- Sebastien Dalphond R&D-Hybride --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

Sebastien Dalphond said:

quoted 11 lines It's a great experience, with strong visuals a la Boards of Canada,

> It's a great experience, with strong visuals a la Boards of Canada, > dancing fans on stage, equipped with fur costumes and big flashlights, > huge balloons flying around, energy-packed Wayne Coyne (singer), that > came up with so many things to say and show. > > Now I think about some shows I have seen in the past, like Clayton > behind a small laptop, Vibert in total darkness, and countless other > acts that don't give a shit if you're watching or not. I know I can't > compare them with the music of the Flips, don't want to start on the > same subject again, I guess I was just too excited about their show and > had to write about it.

I'm sure if your average IDM artist had the touring budget of the Flaming Lips, you'd see a lot more elaborate shows. As it is, most of them end up sleeping on people's couches while they drive crappy vehicles across the country (whichever country they happen to be touring in). Only the most popular IDM artists qualify for airfare, let alone hotel accomodations. Which means that making sure you have dancers and visuals and lights and other crazy things on stage takes somewhat of a backseat. derek -- eggytoast.com - eggtastic.com ------ it's in your grocer's freezer --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

on 18/08/03 5:16 pm the person going by the name EggyToast at eggy@eggtastic.com spake :

quoted 25 lines Sebastien Dalphond said:

> Sebastien Dalphond said: >> It's a great experience, with strong visuals a la Boards of Canada, >> dancing fans on stage, equipped with fur costumes and big flashlights, >> huge balloons flying around, energy-packed Wayne Coyne (singer), that >> came up with so many things to say and show. >> >> Now I think about some shows I have seen in the past, like Clayton >> behind a small laptop, Vibert in total darkness, and countless other >> acts that don't give a shit if you're watching or not. I know I can't >> compare them with the music of the Flips, don't want to start on the >> same subject again, I guess I was just too excited about their show and >> had to write about it. > > I'm sure if your average IDM artist had the touring budget of the Flaming > Lips, you'd see a lot more elaborate shows. > > As it is, most of them end up sleeping on people's couches while they drive > crappy vehicles across the country (whichever country they happen to be > touring in). Only the most popular IDM artists qualify for airfare, let > alone hotel accomodations. > > Which means that making sure you have dancers and visuals and lights and > other crazy things on stage takes somewhat of a backseat. > > derek

Damn Derek, you are just too damn rational and wise. I'm glad someone is. _muff._ --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

See: Dino Felipe. Past Experiences: One man in Ape costume on stage, 2 women one in corset one in toilet paper lip-syncing to nothing. Women in question throw raw bacon on audience. expect more from the schematic showcase. more. Also see: Dan aka Doormouse. Past Experiences: To many to mention. See Also: Aphex Twin remember that entire not gonna show himself on stage thing and also the sand paper blocks in the tables experiments. - A On Monday, August 18, 2003, at 02:08 PM, Sebastien Dalphond wrote:

quoted 75 lines Agreed, although the Flips had it rough too, for a long time. That

> Agreed, although the Flips had it rough too, for a long time. That > didn't > stop them from doing all sorts of stuff (surely not for the money), > like a > boom box concert (where everyone brings a boom box), or the car lot > experiment (people listen to some tracks in their car). While this is > not > something you can earn your money with, it's still fun and unusual. > > poussinfrais > > -- > Sebastien Dalphond > R&D-Hybride > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: EggyToast [mailto:eggy@eggtastic.com] >> Sent: August 18, 2003 12:17 PM >> To: idm@hyperreal.org >> Subject: Re: [idm] Flaming Lips >> >> >> Sebastien Dalphond said: >>> It's a great experience, with strong visuals a la Boards of Canada, >>> dancing fans on stage, equipped with fur costumes and big >>> flashlights, >>> huge balloons flying around, energy-packed Wayne Coyne (singer), that >>> came up with so many things to say and show. >>> >>> Now I think about some shows I have seen in the past, like Clayton >>> behind a small laptop, Vibert in total darkness, and countless other >>> acts that don't give a shit if you're watching or not. I know I >>> can't >>> compare them with the music of the Flips, don't want to start on the >>> same subject again, I guess I was just too excited about their show >>> and >>> had to write about it. >> >> I'm sure if your average IDM artist had the touring budget of the >> Flaming >> Lips, you'd see a lot more elaborate shows. >> >> As it is, most of them end up sleeping on people's couches while >> they drive >> crappy vehicles across the country (whichever country they happen to >> be >> touring in). Only the most popular IDM artists qualify for airfare, >> let >> alone hotel accomodations. >> >> Which means that making sure you have dancers and visuals and lights >> and >> other crazy things on stage takes somewhat of a backseat. >> >> derek >> -- >> eggytoast.com - eggtastic.com >> ------ >> it's in your grocer's freezer >> >> >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org >> For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org >> >> > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > >

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You mean who opened up for them? it was the Eels. -matT On Monday, August 18, 2003, at 01:11 PM, Sebastien Dalphond wrote:

quoted 15 lines I just saw them here in Nashville a two weeks ago. Great show indeed.

>> I just saw them here in Nashville a two weeks ago. Great show indeed. >> I >> agree with you. Even people there who hadn't heard much of them before >> left as fans. > > I'm curious, who where their first part in Nashville? > > Thanks, > > poussinfrais > > -- > Sebastien Dalphond > R&D-Hybride >

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From: vis-you <vis-you@dreamingpig.com> Date: Mon Aug 18, 2003 11:28:39 AM US/Central To: eggy@eggtastic.com Subject: Re: [idm] Flaming Lips I'm sure you're right on most points... though I know the dancers in fuzzy animal outfits are all volunteers they scrounge from each location they play at. And their props include blowing up giant balloons with a leaf blower and odd toys and odds n' ends (i.e. inflated toy robots hanging from the stage). The only thing that looked like it cost anything to do was the video playing behind them that followed the music they played. Of course someone with a decent computer and After Effects/Final Cut Pro could set that up. Oh... and don't forget the fake blood. Very important prop indeed. -matT On Monday, August 18, 2003, at 11:16 AM, EggyToast wrote:

quoted 41 lines Sebastien Dalphond said:

> Sebastien Dalphond said: >> It's a great experience, with strong visuals a la Boards of Canada, >> dancing fans on stage, equipped with fur costumes and big flashlights, >> huge balloons flying around, energy-packed Wayne Coyne (singer), that >> came up with so many things to say and show. >> >> Now I think about some shows I have seen in the past, like Clayton >> behind a small laptop, Vibert in total darkness, and countless other >> acts that don't give a shit if you're watching or not. I know I can't >> compare them with the music of the Flips, don't want to start on the >> same subject again, I guess I was just too excited about their show >> and >> had to write about it. > > I'm sure if your average IDM artist had the touring budget of the > Flaming > Lips, you'd see a lot more elaborate shows. > > As it is, most of them end up sleeping on people's couches while they > drive > crappy vehicles across the country (whichever country they happen to be > touring in). Only the most popular IDM artists qualify for airfare, > let > alone hotel accomodations. > > Which means that making sure you have dancers and visuals and lights > and > other crazy things on stage takes somewhat of a backseat. > > derek > -- > eggytoast.com - eggtastic.com > ------ > it's in your grocer's freezer > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org >

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on 19/08/03 3:27 pm the person going by the name vis-you at vis-you@dreamingpig.com spake :

quoted 2 lines Of course someone with a decent

> Of course someone with a decent > computer and After Effects/Final Cut Pro could set that up.

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I can verify the Dancing Animal claim. Two of my friends were 'selected'(meaning some a seemingly random person came up to them and asked if they wanted to dance on stage in animal constumes)at the St. Paul, MN show with Beck. One was a Lion, and the other was a Rabbit...I think.

quoted 69 lines From: vis-you <vis-you@dreamingpig.com>

>From: vis-you <vis-you@dreamingpig.com> >To: idm@hyperreal.org >Subject: Re: [idm] Flaming Lips >Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2003 09:27:37 -0500 > >From: vis-you <vis-you@dreamingpig.com> >Date: Mon Aug 18, 2003 11:28:39 AM US/Central >To: eggy@eggtastic.com >Subject: Re: [idm] Flaming Lips > >I'm sure you're right on most points... though I know the dancers in fuzzy >animal outfits are all volunteers they scrounge from each location they >play at. And their props include blowing up giant balloons with a leaf >blower and odd toys and odds n' ends (i.e. inflated toy robots hanging from >the stage). The only thing that looked like it cost anything to do was the >video playing behind them that followed the music they played. Of course >someone with a decent computer and After Effects/Final Cut Pro could set >that up. > >Oh... and don't forget the fake blood. Very important prop indeed. > >-matT > > >On Monday, August 18, 2003, at 11:16 AM, EggyToast wrote: > >>Sebastien Dalphond said: >>>It's a great experience, with strong visuals a la Boards of Canada, >>>dancing fans on stage, equipped with fur costumes and big flashlights, >>>huge balloons flying around, energy-packed Wayne Coyne (singer), that >>>came up with so many things to say and show. >>> >>>Now I think about some shows I have seen in the past, like Clayton >>>behind a small laptop, Vibert in total darkness, and countless other >>>acts that don't give a shit if you're watching or not. I know I can't >>>compare them with the music of the Flips, don't want to start on the >>>same subject again, I guess I was just too excited about their show and >>>had to write about it. >> >>I'm sure if your average IDM artist had the touring budget of the Flaming >>Lips, you'd see a lot more elaborate shows. >> >>As it is, most of them end up sleeping on people's couches while they >>drive >>crappy vehicles across the country (whichever country they happen to be >>touring in). Only the most popular IDM artists qualify for airfare, let >>alone hotel accomodations. >> >>Which means that making sure you have dancers and visuals and lights and >>other crazy things on stage takes somewhat of a backseat. >> >>derek >>-- >>eggytoast.com - eggtastic.com >>------ >>it's in your grocer's freezer >> >> >> >>--------------------------------------------------------------------- >>To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org >>For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org >> > > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- >To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org >For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org >

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