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Re: [idm] Dave Kopel & Glenn Reynolds on RAVE Act on National Review Online

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2003-01-31 15:11John von Seggern [idm] Dave Kopel & Glenn Reynolds on RAVE Act on National Review Online
2003-01-31 15:36Patrick Norris Re: [idm] Dave Kopel & Glenn Reynolds on RAVE Act on National Review Online
2003-01-31 15:41seeklektek Re: [idm] Dave Kopel & Glenn Reynolds on RAVE Act on National Review Online
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2003-01-31 15:11John von SeggernI don't usually agree with the National Review, but check this out about the revival of th
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I don't usually agree with the National Review, but check this out about the revival of the infamous 'crack house amendments': http://www.nationalreview.com/kopel/kopel013003.asp -- John von Seggern producer - DJ - researcher email <johnvon at digitalcutuplounge dot com> bio <http://www.digitalcutuplounge.com/newsite/jvsremix.htm> home <http://www.digitalcutuplounge.com> school <http://ethnomus.ucr.edu/jvs/bio.html> --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2003-01-31 15:36Patrick NorrisI read about this last week in another publication (i can't remember which one) and I'm so
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I read about this last week in another publication (i can't remember which one) and I'm sort of pissed that it would be so specific to electronic music. I know when I play shows I'm clean and sober but my audience I can say without a doubt usually isn't and why would I be held responsible for what people do while tucked away in the corners of the venue. At first I figured it was just about "rave drugs" in trance clubs and such but now I'm starting to wonder if I should cover my ass and stay in the studio... Sorry for the rant but I don't think Tom Daschle could descern trance from experimental stuff and I don't feel those who inforce this law would be inclined to look out for someone who just makes the music and doesn't give a shit how kids enjoy it. I'm not saying I want kids to do drugs at my shows (it should be about the music) but I'd be naive to think nobody smuggled anything in. I guess leave your stash at home kids, if this thing passes, and we might be able to keep having get togethers with descent music. That's all Pat _________________________________________________________________ Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN 8. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2003-01-31 15:41seeklektekFrom: "John von Seggern" > I don't usually agree with the National Review, but check this
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quoted 4 lines I don't usually agree with the National Review, but check this out about> I don't usually agree with the National Review, but check this out about > the revival of the infamous 'crack house amendments': > http://www.nationalreview.com/kopel/kopel013003.asp > John von Seggern
Thank you for posting this link. From the article: <snip> The Daschle bill extends the federal "crackhouse law" - which makes it illegal to maintain a building for purposes of drug consumption - to cover musical performances and other events of a temporary nature, and to make liable even those who make their premises available at no charge. The idea is to make the promoters of musical events liable for drug consumption at those events - even when the consumption is entirely incidental, and has nothing to do with any action by the promoters. The legislation is, in effect, an admission of failure by the Drug Enforcement Agency: Unable to control drug use, it's looking to force concert promoters and theaters to do it, on pain of imprisonment. As amended by Daschle, the "crackhouse law" would make it a 20-year federal felony to "manage or control any place, whether permanently or temporarily, either as an owner, lessee, agent, employee, occupant, or mortgagee, and knowingly and intentionally rent, lease, profit from, or make available for use, with or without compensation, the place for the purpose of unlawfully manufacturing, storing, distributing, or using a controlled substance." This language is broad enough to encompass not only rave promoters and disc jockeys, but also bar owners, hotel or motel owners, concert promoters, tour bus or cruise ship operators - and even home owners. Literally read, the statute would even apply to a homeowner whose teenagers occasionally smoked marijuana on the property. Frustrated by the failure to reduce Ecstasy use, federal bureaucrats and their congressional allies are now looking to attack easy-to-find public targets. Some have even admitted that their real target isn't drugs per se, but rather the "rave culture" - even though some earlier efforts at prosecuting rave promoters have been enjoined http://www.emdef.org/cases/nola_StatePalace/nola_plea_injunction.pdf on First Amendment grounds. <snip> The Feds and the Music Industry: a good year for both to die: 2003. .o0O}seeklektek{O0o. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org