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thats funny, i thought '13' was horrible and just another example of a pop-band taking themselves too seriously and pouring too much money and overdone-creativity into their "masterpiece". and i really enjoy all the older blur albums, which may put me in a minority on this list ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jan!" <j.moesen@student.unimaas.nl> To: "idm-l" <idm@hyperreal.org> Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2002 1:06 PM Subject: [idm] [1/2 OT] Blur - 13

quoted 24 lines In one of the many threads here that keep droning on and on and on,

> In one of the many threads here that keep droning on and on and on, > someone wrote: > >I fucking got tired of the same boring guitar + drums + some drugged up > >singer combo. > I suppose most of you (at least those from Europe) know the brit-pop > band Blur. They've had a number of rather successful songs, and were > well-known for their neverending verbal battle with the boys from Oasis. > Anyway, my girlfriend introduced me to their album "13", which, quite > frankly, I find amazing. It's a few years old already, but has some of > the best songs ever made by a pop band (*please* don't start the "What > is POP?"-flames). First half of the CD is your plain old radio-friendly > stuff, pretty good in their own genre, but the second half is some weird > yet very melodic music. Definitely hear their drugged-uppiness, and I > might even say this could be called brit-pop-idm. :-) (Please don't take > that seriously, either. It's just a bunch of very decent tracks) > > --Jan! > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > >

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A very memorable quote comes to mind when I hear mention of Blur: "the war with Oasis may be over, but Blur have fired their nukes anyway." So happens it comes from a review of "13" http://www.eye.net/eye/issue/issue_03.18.99/music/ondisc.html Peace, Matt

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> -----Original Message----- > From: Jan! [mailto:j.moesen@student.unimaas.nl] > Sent: February 28, 2002 2:07 PM > To: idm-l > Subject: [idm] [1/2 OT] Blur - 13 > > > In one of the many threads here that keep droning on and on and on, > someone wrote: > >I fucking got tired of the same boring guitar + drums + some drugged up > >singer combo. > I suppose most of you (at least those from Europe) know the brit-pop > band Blur. They've had a number of rather successful songs, and were > well-known for their neverending verbal battle with the boys from Oasis. > Anyway, my girlfriend introduced me to their album "13", which, quite > frankly, I find amazing. It's a few years old already, but has some of > the best songs ever made by a pop band (*please* don't start the "What > is POP?"-flames). First half of the CD is your plain old radio-friendly > stuff, pretty good in their own genre, but the second half is some weird > yet very melodic music. Definitely hear their drugged-uppiness, and I > might even say this could be called brit-pop-idm. :-) (Please don't take > that seriously, either. It's just a bunch of very decent tracks) > > --Jan! > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > >

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weird, I've just been spending a lot of time with that album. after not listening to it at all for like 2 or 3 years. g. On Thursday 28 February 2002 01:06 pm, Jan! wrote:

quoted 24 lines In one of the many threads here that keep droning on and on and on,

> In one of the many threads here that keep droning on and on and on, > > someone wrote: > >I fucking got tired of the same boring guitar + drums + some drugged up > >singer combo. > > I suppose most of you (at least those from Europe) know the brit-pop > band Blur. They've had a number of rather successful songs, and were > well-known for their neverending verbal battle with the boys from Oasis. > Anyway, my girlfriend introduced me to their album "13", which, quite > frankly, I find amazing. It's a few years old already, but has some of > the best songs ever made by a pop band (*please* don't start the "What > is POP?"-flames). First half of the CD is your plain old radio-friendly > stuff, pretty good in their own genre, but the second half is some weird > yet very melodic music. Definitely hear their drugged-uppiness, and I > might even say this could be called brit-pop-idm. :-) (Please don't take > that seriously, either. It's just a bunch of very decent tracks) > > --Jan! > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

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[off-topic from the 1/2 off-topic] This has nothing to do with the post, but I think your PC's clock lags behind a bit: your e-mail was dated 27/02 :-) [back on-off-topic] Oh, and this is something that has to do with the post: I'd say Radiohead was more of a "let's be cool and mention Autechre as a big influence on our newest cd" type of band. Not that I don't *like* the albums Kid A and Amnesiac, I just think they have a certain pretentious side - but not the right kind of pretentious :-) --Jan! See you all (ok, not *all*) at the (K-RAA-K)3 event this saturday. Let's not wear the IBM-ish T-shirts, 'kay? ;-) b.r.i.a.n wrote:

quoted 5 lines thats funny, i thought '13' was horrible and just another example of a

> thats funny, i thought '13' was horrible and just another example of a > pop-band taking themselves too seriously and pouring too much money and > overdone-creativity into their "masterpiece". > and i really enjoy all the older blur albums, which may put me in a minority > on this list

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---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- From: "Jan!" <j.moesen@student.unimaas.nl> Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2002 19:06:37 +0100

quoted 6 lines In one of the many threads here that keep droning on and on and on,

>In one of the many threads here that keep droning on and on and on, >someone wrote: > >I fucking got tired of the same boring guitar + drums + some drugged up > >singer combo. >I suppose most of you (at least those from Europe) know the brit-pop >band Blur.

Nope! But I can say that there are numerous bands who have taken the basics of "guitar, bass, drums, and singing" and done wonderful things with them. If you drop the drums, and slow everything way down, you get Labradford. If you drop the bass, you get Low. Not for everyone, for sure, but definitely quality bands. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

Not too mention everything else on Kranky-- the Labradford offshoot Pan American, the always amazing Godpseed You Black Emporer, the really-freaking-good Stars of the Lid. and, of course, as you mentioned, Low, maybe one of the best bands around. props to Kranky, one of the finer labels in existence. Original Message: ----------------- Nope! But I can say that there are numerous bands who have taken the basics of "guitar, bass, drums, and singing" and done wonderful things with them. If you drop the drums, and slow everything way down, you get Labradford. If you drop the bass, you get Low. Not for everyone, for sure, but definitely quality bands. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org -------------------------------------------------------------------- mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ . --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

'battle' 'trailerpark' 'carmel' 'trimm trab'... fantastic tracks! very true, the album really picks up the second half and has some amazing electronic/guitary interactions. which i'm sure is half graham coxon and half william orbit. 'tender' might be the worst song ever recorded though. 'Bustin and Dronin' their remix album is pretty f-kin sweet actually. remixes of tracks off the album 'blur' ... not very IDM though. more like, Jam and Spoon-ish, or something. more off topic,.. Blur once kicked incredible ass. i don't care so much where they are now, but 'Modern Life is Rubbish' is one of the greatest things ever. if you're bored at the record shop, get this. it's their sophmore release (when they started to discover acid apparently). they were incredibly aggressive with their art/pop path. a very bold album. sold poorly, but is their best. the best tracks combine shoegazer-mood, with those amazingly crafted chord changes that only graham and few others can pull off without too much pretention. 'chemical world' 'blue jeans' 'oily water' 'star-shaped'... stunning album. nat.

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>From: Gabriel J. Weinstock <gweinstock@citynet.net> >Reply-To: gweinstock@citynet.net >To: "Jan!" <j.moesen@student.unimaas.nl>, idm-l <idm@hyperreal.org> >Subject: Re: [idm] [1/2 OT] Blur - 13 >Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2002 16:19:13 -0500 > >weird, I've just been spending a lot of time with that album. after not >listening to it at all for like 2 or 3 years. >g. > >On Thursday 28 February 2002 01:06 pm, Jan! wrote: > > In one of the many threads here that keep droning on and on and on, > > > > someone wrote: > > >I fucking got tired of the same boring guitar + drums + some drugged >up > > >singer combo. > > > > I suppose most of you (at least those from Europe) know the brit-pop > > band Blur. They've had a number of rather successful songs, and were > > well-known for their neverending verbal battle with the boys from Oasis. > > Anyway, my girlfriend introduced me to their album "13", which, quite > > frankly, I find amazing. It's a few years old already, but has some of > > the best songs ever made by a pop band (*please* don't start the "What > > is POP?"-flames). First half of the CD is your plain old radio-friendly > > stuff, pretty good in their own genre, but the second half is some weird > > yet very melodic music. Definitely hear their drugged-uppiness, and I > > might even say this could be called brit-pop-idm. :-) (Please don't take > > that seriously, either. It's just a bunch of very decent tracks) > > > > --Jan! > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- >To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org >For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org >

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