What greg says below is, I think, the real reason that people are
overlooking the differences between "bands on stage" and "idm'er on
stage." When you're making your music with only your hands, you can stop,
start, yell at the audience, have them come up and play, or any of numerous
"silly" things. The live show isn't about "jumping around," it's about
getting the audience involved.
Whether that involves making some brutally funky beats and wearing a funny
hat while throwing water on them or jumping off the stage and playing a
guitar while they carry you around, it's more *fun.*
Then, the question of the performer's intentions come into play. Maybe
they don't wanna have fun :P
cheers,
/derek
At 04:41 PM 4/10/2001 -0400, greg davis wrote:
quoted 48 lines i expect IDM musicians and any other musicians to create good music live.
>i expect IDM musicians and any other musicians to create good music live.
>i want someone's live set to be well prepared and aurally interesting.
>thats a good performance to me. i could care less whether the musician
>jumps up and down or just sits there moving his/her finger on a
>trackpad. most all of the visual aspects or actions seem quite
>irrelevant to the music.
>
>people ask why go to shows for the music when you can just listen to it
>at home, well that argument is absurd. hearing music live, being
>performed or created on the spot by musicians is a great experience. and
>its nice to be part of a good unreproduceable live experience.
>
>i admit there is no excuse for hearing IDM musicians play cd's or aiff
>files from their computer. that is just plain laziness, there is so much
>more that electronic/laptop/computer musicians can do live. i just feel
>that computer/electronic performers need to spend just as much time
>developing a live set as they do making tracks in the studio or at home.
>i think there is a difference there. live sets should be more
>interactive. with more realtime performance. more surprises. more
>improvisation or manipulating material.
>
>an IDM track shouldnt be a fixed object in a live performance. it should
>be an ever changing thing that is different every time it is performed
>just like a classical piece or a pop tune. same materials but performed
>in a different way every time. this is all very possible in
>electronic/computer music.
>
>unfortunately, manipulating a computer in realtime doesn't involve lots
>of physical movement (unlike other "real" instruments). but who cares,
>if you dont think an IDM performance isnt going to be visually exciting
>or engaging enough, then dont go to it and stop complaining about it.
>
>but then again, this is coming from someone who has sat through and
>listened to a 6 hour string quartet by morton feldman or would enjoy a
>performance of alvin lucier's "music for a solo performer" or john
>cage's 4'33".
>
>oh well......sorry for another long post on this over argued subject.
>greg davis
>
>p.s. autumnature should be available in a couple of weeks. forced
>exposure will be carrying it, check there to get a copy.
>
>np: salvatore sciarrino-aspern suite
>
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