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2001-01-24 00:38Kevin Sample [idm] n5md md1
2001-01-24 00:53Static Beats Re: [idm] n5md md1
└─ 2001-01-24 01:11Kevin Sample Re: [idm] n5md md1
└─ 2001-01-24 16:29Greg Clow Re: [idm] n5md md1
└─ 2001-01-24 19:47Guy Elden, Jr. Re: [idm] n5md md1
2001-01-24 01:25Static Beats Re: [idm] MD
└─ 2001-01-27 22:00Kevin Sample Re: [idm] MD
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2001-01-24 00:38Kevin Sampleanyone else have this? just got it yesterday, and, overall, i like it. it's been in my dec
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anyone else have this? just got it yesterday, and, overall, i like it. it's been in my deck and portable pretty much ever since i pulled it out of the envelope. i won't attempt to write a review, but here's a link to one: http://www.nezzwerk.com/seven/reviews/album_review.php?id=455 . this reviewer is much more knowledgeable than i am anyway. i will say that the o2 track is absolutely gorgeous. minimal beats overlayed with a piano-like arpeggiation that reminds me of Jeff Greinke. ks --- Some day... science will perfect a process of thought transference from composer to listener. Only by allowing the listener to see into the mind of the composer can the true value of the music be approximated. --Raymond Scott, 1949 [ experience the gated oscillator: http://www.tar-xvf.net/ ] --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2001-01-24 00:53Static Beatsyeah Ive got it and I love it as well. Problem is that aside from that and the Gescom rele
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yeah Ive got it and I love it as well. Problem is that aside from that and the Gescom release I have *nothing* else on MD. when I get the time Id like to covert the n5md into CD format so i can listen to it more often. shimone http://www.staticbeats.com ----- Original Message ----- From: Kevin Sample <ksample@texas.net> To: <idm@hyperreal.org> Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2001 4:38 PM Subject: [idm] n5md md1
quoted 6 lines anyone else have this? just got it yesterday, and, overall, i like> anyone else have this? just got it yesterday, and, overall, i like > it. it's been in my deck and portable pretty much ever since i pulled it > out of the envelope. > > i won't attempt to write a review, but here's a link to > one: http://www.nezzwerk.com/seven/reviews/album_review.php?id=455 .
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quoted 22 lines reviewer is much more knowledgeable than i am anyway.> reviewer is much more knowledgeable than i am anyway. > > i will say that the o2 track is absolutely gorgeous. minimal beats > overlayed with a piano-like arpeggiation that reminds me of Jeff Greinke. > > ks > > > --- > Some day... science will perfect a process of thought > transference from composer to listener. Only by > allowing the listener to see into the mind of the composer > can the true value of the music be approximated. > > --Raymond Scott, 1949 > > [ experience the gated oscillator: http://www.tar-xvf.net/ ] > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
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2001-01-24 01:11Kevin SampleAt 16:53 1/23/2001 -0800, Static Beats wrote: >yeah Ive got it and I love it as well. > >P
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Tue, 23 Jan 2001 19:11:46 -0600
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At 16:53 1/23/2001 -0800, Static Beats wrote:
quoted 4 lines yeah Ive got it and I love it as well.>yeah Ive got it and I love it as well. > >Problem is that aside from that and the Gescom release I have *nothing* else >on MD.
same here, but i originally got into MD because of its recording versatility--i put heavy-rotation vinyl-only stuff on MD, and record some radio shows as well. i never had any intention of buying commercially-released MDs. ks --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2001-01-24 16:29Greg ClowAt 08:11 PM 1/23/01, Kevin Sample wrote: >At 16:53 1/23/2001 -0800, Static Beats wrote: >>
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At 08:11 PM 1/23/01, Kevin Sample wrote:
quoted 10 lines At 16:53 1/23/2001 -0800, Static Beats wrote:>At 16:53 1/23/2001 -0800, Static Beats wrote: >>yeah Ive got it and I love it as well. >> >>Problem is that aside from that and the Gescom release I have *nothing* else >>on MD. > >same here, but i originally got into MD because of its recording >versatility--i put heavy-rotation vinyl-only stuff on MD, and record some >radio shows as well. i never had any intention of buying >commercially-released MDs.
The main reason that MiniDisc was viewed by many as a "failure" in North America after it's original introduction in the early '90s was the attempts of the record industry to present it as a new pre-recorded music medium. Digital Compact Cassette (DCC) was also introduced as in a similar way around the same time. But since most people were already in the process of upgrading from vinyl to CD, they weren't interested. (Not to mention the fact that none of the major labels were backing both new formats - some went with MD, some with DCC - meaning that mainstream music fans would have to buy TWO new pieces of hardware rather than choosing the format they prefered.) Thankfully, other markets (like Japan and the UK) recognised MDs real usefulness was not as a replacement for CDs, but as a replacement for cassettes as a home recording media. I use MD to record vinyl and MP3s for portable listening, and to record my live DJ sets. It's a good thing. Greg -- Greg Clow - greg@stainedproductions.com - greg@feedbackmonitor.com concert & event promotions - http://www.stainedproductions.com electronic music radio/reviews/interviews - http://www.feedbackmonitor.com 158 Close Ave. 2nd Floor - Toronto, Ontario M6K 2V5 - Canada --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2001-01-24 19:47Guy Elden, Jr.> The main reason that MiniDisc was viewed by many as a "failure" in North > America after
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quoted 5 lines The main reason that MiniDisc was viewed by many as a "failure" in North> The main reason that MiniDisc was viewed by many as a "failure" in North > America after it's original introduction in the early '90s was the attempts > of the record industry to present it as a new pre-recorded music medium. > Digital Compact Cassette (DCC) was also introduced as in a similar way > around the same time. But since most people were already in the process of
True enough. I remember listening to a 1st generation minidisc player at a record store back in '92 or '93, and thinking how crappy it sounded compared to my portable CD player. It was even playing a pre-recorded album which one would expect to sound very good. They never marketed them (back then) as a recording device, merely as another format to compete against CDs. Fortunately the ATRAC compression spec has gone through a couple of revisions so that now it's virtually indistinguishable from CD quality, and at least to my ears, is superior to 128kbit MP3 files. I owned a Samsung Yepp MP3 player for a good part of last year, but got fed up with the 64MB of memory that it came with and the crappy UI. For just a few pennies more, I upgraded to a portable MD recorder that sounded better, was easier to use, and lasted 3x as long on the batteries.
quoted 2 lines cassettes as a home recording media. I use MD to record vinyl and MP3s for> cassettes as a home recording media. I use MD to record vinyl and MP3s for > portable listening, and to record my live DJ sets. It's a good thing.
I do that, although I really like being able to make digital copies of CDs in my collection. The MD portable I have is one of the smallest on the market, so that alone makes it easier for me to bring the IDM with me wherever I go. -- jr --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2001-01-24 01:25Static Beatsah. i got it as well for *exactly* the same reason. unfortunately i find that Atrac audio
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ah. i got it as well for *exactly* the same reason. unfortunately i find that Atrac audio compression isn't all that good for recording electronic music. the way i put it is this: you lose the highest of the high and the lowest of the lows. this means no sub-bass and no high-pitched sounds. i used to record all my dj sets onto MD and found the fidelity sorely lacking. It's definitely great for recording "found sounds" though. I took it with me to Israel recently and it worked out great ! as an interesting side note RealPlayer 8 with Real Audio 8 uses the Atrac compression format. shimone http://www.staticbeats.com ----- Original Message ----- From: Kevin Sample <ksample@texas.net> To: <idm@hyperreal.org> Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2001 5:11 PM Subject: Re: [idm] n5md md1
quoted 4 lines At 16:53 1/23/2001 -0800, Static Beats wrote:> At 16:53 1/23/2001 -0800, Static Beats wrote: > >yeah Ive got it and I love it as well. > > > >Problem is that aside from that and the Gescom release I have *nothing*
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quoted 9 lines on MD.> >on MD. > > same here, but i originally got into MD because of its recording > versatility--i put heavy-rotation vinyl-only stuff on MD, and record some > radio shows as well. i never had any intention of buying > commercially-released MDs. > > ks >
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2001-01-27 22:00Kevin Sampleis it too late to retrieve this thread from the depths of hell? anyway, you've got better
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is it too late to retrieve this thread from the depths of hell? anyway, you've got better ears than i do--i've never been able to discern any difference between ATRAC and uncompressed PCM/WAV. i have heard, though, that different recorders compress slightly differently. i'm not stating that as a fact, but as hearsay. take it as you will.... btw, i use a Pioneer MJ-D508 deck for recording my vinyl, and a Sony MZ-R50 portable for recording from the optical out on my sound card. ks At 17:25 1/23/2001 -0800, Static Beats wrote:
quoted 44 lines ah. i got it as well for *exactly* the same reason.>ah. i got it as well for *exactly* the same reason. >unfortunately i find that Atrac audio compression isn't >all that good for recording electronic music. >the way i put it is this: >you lose the highest of the high >and the lowest of the lows. >this means no sub-bass >and no high-pitched sounds. > >i used to record all my dj sets onto MD and found >the fidelity sorely lacking. > >It's definitely great for recording "found sounds" though. >I took it with me to Israel recently and it worked out great ! > >as an interesting side note RealPlayer 8 with Real Audio 8 >uses the Atrac compression format. > > >shimone >http://www.staticbeats.com > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: Kevin Sample <ksample@texas.net> >To: <idm@hyperreal.org> >Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2001 5:11 PM >Subject: Re: [idm] n5md md1 > > > > At 16:53 1/23/2001 -0800, Static Beats wrote: > > >yeah Ive got it and I love it as well. > > > > > >Problem is that aside from that and the Gescom release I have *nothing* >else > > >on MD. > > > > same here, but i originally got into MD because of its recording > > versatility--i put heavy-rotation vinyl-only stuff on MD, and record some > > radio shows as well. i never had any intention of buying > > commercially-released MDs. > > > > ks > >
--- Some day... science will perfect a process of thought transference from composer to listener. Only by allowing the listener to see into the mind of the composer can the true value of the music be approximated. --Raymond Scott, 1949 [ experience the gated oscillator: http://web.tar-xvf.net/ ] --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org