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1999-12-11 04:28DAVID HAMPSON (idm) Re: whitezone-l Sony Music vs UR
1999-12-11 19:33Ernesto Ikerd (idm) Sony Music vs UR
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1999-12-11 04:28DAVID HAMPSONThanks for pointing this out Ernie... Surely there must be some way to stop it if UR disap
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Thanks for pointing this out Ernie... Surely there must be some way to stop it if UR disapprove; after all, Oasis were able to stop the Smurfs covering several of their tracks... Seriously though, it didn't sound like they were doing anything wrong when I first read it, but I thought about it and I can see what you mean: "we have chosen the way of rerecording the track tone by tone...". Basically they are admitting to bootlegging the track above board! Then again, I suppose if your lawyers can let a paedophile run wild whilst making you lots of money then you can do what the fuck you like. Mr Dirk - why don't you stick to the Smurfs and let us stick to the "techno community" which you front that you know so well. I can now see those little blue fuckers on this release when it comes out, and a lot of other people will too. Happy fronting Dirky-boy! BABY DIDDY ----- Original Message ----- From: Ernesto Ikerd <IkerdEA@lmtas.lmco.com> To: International Damage Machines <idm@hyperreal.org>; <whitezone-l@mail.sonic.net> Sent: Saturday, December 11, 1999 7:33 PM Subject: whitezone-l Sony Music vs UR
quoted 27 lines > http://www.submerge.com/ur_vs_sony.html > > You know, when I first read about those Sony Music bastards re-creating > that UR track for their CD because, naturally, UR wouldnt give them the > time of day - it disgusted me, but I didnt think it was that big of a > deal until it really sunk in. But then the more I thought about it, I > just madder and madder I got, and now I friggin glowing-red wicked pissed > off!! > > For whatever B.S. reason ("it unites techno-fans that splintered in > different genres after the breakup of Techno-House of the early 90's"), > the bottom line is that Sony Music only cares about selling McUnits, and > NOT about ART!!!! UR has a certain mindset, and from this springs their > art. Their philosophy is obviously anti-major label, and thats how they > like it, PERIOD!!. Sony Music's A&R can look elsewhere for their talent, > because NO MEANS NO! > > Sony Music has truckloads of lawyers, so they have a might-is-right > attitude about this and the fact theyd do this againsts UR's wishes is > TERRIFYING. its sets a precedent that can only lead to even worse crimes > against underground music (and the artists who CANT afford lawyers) and I > believe that every real fan should make it their duty to let these > Mega-Corp Thieves know exactly how they feel! If you havent gone to the > above URL, do so a.s.a.p. - its a CHILLING read! > > Come on y'all, lets fill those Sony Music mail, email boxes, faxes & > phones up with some noise! God Im angry!!
quoted 5 lines ernie> > ernie > > >Anyone with any ideas, comments, addresses, or suggestions, please let me > >know. Some basic info follows. Any media folks, contact me privately.
If
quoted 43 lines anything could get Mad Mike out in the open, well...contact me.> >anything could get Mad Mike out in the open, well...contact me. > > > >Peace, > >Cornelius Harris > >Underground Resistance > > > >This is the original irritant, the place where this started. Feel free > >to...contact them. > > > >Sony Music Entertainment (Germany) GmbH > >New Media/Business Affairs > >Stephanstr. 15 > >60313 Frankfurt > >Telefon: (069) 13888-0 > >dirk_dreyer@de.sonymusic.com > > > >The following are also involved in this in that the track is available in > >the UK and New York. Feel free to let folks know how you feel. > > > >Sony > >666 Fifth Ave > >New York, New York 10019 > >212-833-8000 > > > >General Comments: SonyMusicOnline@sonymusic.com > > > >Sony of Canada Ltd. > >Head Office: > >115 Gordon Baker Road > >Toronto, Ontario > >M2H 3R6 > >Main Telephone: (416) 499-1414 > >Main Fax: (416) 497-1774 > >General Inquiry e-mail: feedback@sony.ca > > > Ernesto Ikerd, (817) 763-4795 > Company Graphics, Dept 17, MZ-1156 > Lockheed Martin Tactical Aircraft Systems > Fort Worth, Texas > > >
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1999-12-11 19:33Ernesto Ikerdhttp://www.submerge.com/ur_vs_sony.html You know, when I first read about those Sony Music
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http://www.submerge.com/ur_vs_sony.html You know, when I first read about those Sony Music bastards re-creating that UR track for their CD because, naturally, UR wouldnt give them the time of day - it disgusted me, but I didnt think it was that big of a deal until it really sunk in. But then the more I thought about it, I just madder and madder I got, and now I friggin glowing-red wicked pissed off!! For whatever B.S. reason ("it unites techno-fans that splintered in different genres after the breakup of Techno-House of the early 90's"), the bottom line is that Sony Music only cares about selling McUnits, and NOT about ART!!!! UR has a certain mindset, and from this springs their art. Their philosophy is obviously anti-major label, and thats how they like it, PERIOD!!. Sony Music's A&R can look elsewhere for their talent, because NO MEANS NO! Sony Music has truckloads of lawyers, so they have a might-is-right attitude about this and the fact theyd do this againsts UR's wishes is TERRIFYING. its sets a precedent that can only lead to even worse crimes against underground music (and the artists who CANT afford lawyers) and I believe that every real fan should make it their duty to let these Mega-Corp Thieves know exactly how they feel! If you havent gone to the above URL, do so a.s.a.p. - its a CHILLING read! Come on y'all, lets fill those Sony Music mail, email boxes, faxes & phones up with some noise! God Im angry!! :( ernie
quoted 36 lines Anyone with any ideas, comments, addresses, or suggestions, please let me>Anyone with any ideas, comments, addresses, or suggestions, please let me >know. Some basic info follows. Any media folks, contact me privately. If >anything could get Mad Mike out in the open, well...contact me. > >Peace, >Cornelius Harris >Underground Resistance > >This is the original irritant, the place where this started. Feel free >to...contact them. > >Sony Music Entertainment (Germany) GmbH >New Media/Business Affairs >Stephanstr. 15 >60313 Frankfurt >Telefon: (069) 13888-0 >dirk_dreyer@de.sonymusic.com > >The following are also involved in this in that the track is available in >the UK and New York. Feel free to let folks know how you feel. > >Sony >666 Fifth Ave >New York, New York 10019 >212-833-8000 > >General Comments: SonyMusicOnline@sonymusic.com > >Sony of Canada Ltd. >Head Office: >115 Gordon Baker Road >Toronto, Ontario >M2H 3R6 >Main Telephone: (416) 499-1414 >Main Fax: (416) 497-1774 >General Inquiry e-mail: feedback@sony.ca
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1999-12-13 00:23Lazlo NibbleOn Sat, Dec 11, 1999 at 01:33:27PM -0600, Ernesto Ikerd wrote: > http://www.submerge.com/u
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On Sat, Dec 11, 1999 at 01:33:27PM -0600, Ernesto Ikerd wrote:
quoted 1 line > http://www.submerge.com/ur_vs_sony.html
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