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What is your favorite listening system for music? Currently my living room setup is a Sony Home Theater Amp and Cerwin Vega RE25 speakers -- both purchased at the Goodwill. I just had to replace the foam surrounds on the RE25s, but they have 10" woofers and can shake knick knacks off the mantle. At work I have a Bravo Audio V2 Tube Headphone amp, Syba Sonic SD USB DAC, and Audio Technica M50 headphones. I have another DAC coming from China to test out. I've been gravitating toward buying and playing more lossless files, even though I'm not sure I can hear the difference. I accidentally bought the Bjork "Vulnicura" album at 24 bit/96khz resolution, and it sounds great played at full resolution, but I'm not sure I could tell it from 16bit/44.1khz in a double-blind test. For that matter, I've listened to 320kbs MP3s of this album and they sound great too.

I prefer cd. Have Nad amplifier and cd and Boston speakers. But they are getting old. I thinking of buying Marantz 6005. I don't like scratchy vinyls, but I like album art. I also have a Nad 5.1 surround for FAX DTS cds, streaming and television. On Mon, Apr 27, 2015 at 6:33 PM, kent williams <chaircrusher@gmail.com> wrote:

quoted 19 lines What is your favorite listening system for music?

> What is your favorite listening system for music? > > Currently my living room setup is a Sony Home Theater Amp and Cerwin Vega > RE25 speakers -- both purchased at the Goodwill. I just had to replace the > foam surrounds on the RE25s, but they have 10" woofers and can shake knick > knacks off the mantle. > > At work I have a Bravo Audio V2 Tube Headphone amp, Syba Sonic SD USB DAC, > and Audio Technica M50 headphones. > > I have another DAC coming from China to test out. > > I've been gravitating toward buying and playing more lossless files, even > though I'm not sure I can hear the difference. I accidentally bought the > Bjork "Vulnicura" album at 24 bit/96khz resolution, and it sounds great > played at full resolution, but I'm not sure I could tell it from > 16bit/44.1khz in a double-blind test. For that matter, I've listened to > 320kbs MP3s of this album and they sound great too. >

lol @ my setup audio technics lp60 turntable http://www.audio-technica.com/cms/turntables/9a7f42b88ee1e14b/ dynaco a25 speakers http://home.indy.net/~gregdunn/dynaco/components/speakers/ vector research va1100 amp http://www.iavscanada.com/product/vector-research-va1100-integrated-amp/ Clint Anderson Systems Engineer On Mon, Apr 27, 2015 at 12:00 PM, Claes Algström <claal67@gmail.com> wrote:

quoted 33 lines I prefer cd. Have Nad amplifier and cd and Boston speakers. But they are

> I prefer cd. Have Nad amplifier and cd and Boston speakers. But they are > getting old. I thinking of buying Marantz 6005. > > I don't like scratchy vinyls, but I like album art. > > I also have a Nad 5.1 surround for FAX DTS cds, streaming and television. > > > > On Mon, Apr 27, 2015 at 6:33 PM, kent williams <chaircrusher@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> What is your favorite listening system for music? >> >> Currently my living room setup is a Sony Home Theater Amp and Cerwin Vega >> RE25 speakers -- both purchased at the Goodwill. I just had to replace the >> foam surrounds on the RE25s, but they have 10" woofers and can shake knick >> knacks off the mantle. >> >> At work I have a Bravo Audio V2 Tube Headphone amp, Syba Sonic SD USB >> DAC, and Audio Technica M50 headphones. >> >> I have another DAC coming from China to test out. >> >> I've been gravitating toward buying and playing more lossless files, even >> though I'm not sure I can hear the difference. I accidentally bought the >> Bjork "Vulnicura" album at 24 bit/96khz resolution, and it sounds great >> played at full resolution, but I'm not sure I could tell it from >> 16bit/44.1khz in a double-blind test. For that matter, I've listened to >> 320kbs MP3s of this album and they sound great too. >> > >

and for incredible fidelity output from my pc only the finest behringer uac-202 usb audio adapter http://www.fullcompass.com/product/316870.html?utm_source=googleps&utm_medium=shopping&utm_campaign=googleps&gclid=CjwKEAjwvPepBRCoqo37teOD1XsSJAC7v6WQr4z78Dc1bx5mu7zYsu9cfObH_yxJltbU98oxexSzuhoCfRDw_wcB Clint Anderson Systems Engineer On Mon, Apr 27, 2015 at 12:28 PM, Clint Anderson <clinta@gmail.com> wrote:

quoted 51 lines lol @ my setup

> lol @ my setup > > audio technics lp60 turntable > http://www.audio-technica.com/cms/turntables/9a7f42b88ee1e14b/ > > dynaco a25 speakers > http://home.indy.net/~gregdunn/dynaco/components/speakers/ > > vector research va1100 amp > http://www.iavscanada.com/product/vector-research-va1100-integrated-amp/ > > Clint Anderson > Systems Engineer > > On Mon, Apr 27, 2015 at 12:00 PM, Claes Algström <claal67@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> I prefer cd. Have Nad amplifier and cd and Boston speakers. But they are >> getting old. I thinking of buying Marantz 6005. >> >> I don't like scratchy vinyls, but I like album art. >> >> I also have a Nad 5.1 surround for FAX DTS cds, streaming and television. >> >> >> >> On Mon, Apr 27, 2015 at 6:33 PM, kent williams <chaircrusher@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >>> What is your favorite listening system for music? >>> >>> Currently my living room setup is a Sony Home Theater Amp and Cerwin >>> Vega RE25 speakers -- both purchased at the Goodwill. I just had to >>> replace the foam surrounds on the RE25s, but they have 10" woofers and can >>> shake knick knacks off the mantle. >>> >>> At work I have a Bravo Audio V2 Tube Headphone amp, Syba Sonic SD USB >>> DAC, and Audio Technica M50 headphones. >>> >>> I have another DAC coming from China to test out. >>> >>> I've been gravitating toward buying and playing more lossless files, >>> even though I'm not sure I can hear the difference. I accidentally bought >>> the Bjork "Vulnicura" album at 24 bit/96khz resolution, and it sounds great >>> played at full resolution, but I'm not sure I could tell it from >>> 16bit/44.1khz in a double-blind test. For that matter, I've listened to >>> 320kbs MP3s of this album and they sound great too. >>> >> >> >

Actually Clint you have a pretty sweet setup circa 1979. I'd re-cap the amp and replaces the tweeters before I'd buy new! The UAC-202 is probably OK, but you can get a nicer DAC for not too much. You can get a Native Instruments Audio Kontrol One for under $100 on EBay. I use that for DJ'ing and playing live, and it sounds really good. On Mon, Apr 27, 2015 at 12:28 PM Clint Anderson <clinta@gmail.com> wrote:

quoted 51 lines lol @ my setup

> lol @ my setup > > audio technics lp60 turntable > http://www.audio-technica.com/cms/turntables/9a7f42b88ee1e14b/ > > dynaco a25 speakers > http://home.indy.net/~gregdunn/dynaco/components/speakers/ > > vector research va1100 amp > http://www.iavscanada.com/product/vector-research-va1100-integrated-amp/ > > Clint Anderson > Systems Engineer > > On Mon, Apr 27, 2015 at 12:00 PM, Claes Algström <claal67@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> I prefer cd. Have Nad amplifier and cd and Boston speakers. But they are >> getting old. I thinking of buying Marantz 6005. >> >> I don't like scratchy vinyls, but I like album art. >> >> I also have a Nad 5.1 surround for FAX DTS cds, streaming and television. >> >> >> >> On Mon, Apr 27, 2015 at 6:33 PM, kent williams <chaircrusher@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >>> What is your favorite listening system for music? >>> >>> Currently my living room setup is a Sony Home Theater Amp and Cerwin >>> Vega RE25 speakers -- both purchased at the Goodwill. I just had to >>> replace the foam surrounds on the RE25s, but they have 10" woofers and can >>> shake knick knacks off the mantle. >>> >>> At work I have a Bravo Audio V2 Tube Headphone amp, Syba Sonic SD USB >>> DAC, and Audio Technica M50 headphones. >>> >>> I have another DAC coming from China to test out. >>> >>> I've been gravitating toward buying and playing more lossless files, >>> even though I'm not sure I can hear the difference. I accidentally bought >>> the Bjork "Vulnicura" album at 24 bit/96khz resolution, and it sounds great >>> played at full resolution, but I'm not sure I could tell it from >>> 16bit/44.1khz in a double-blind test. For that matter, I've listened to >>> 320kbs MP3s of this album and they sound great too. >>> >> >> >

i keep stuff until it breaks if its good :) i also have a set of infrared noname headphones that i like basically i got those speakers and amp and i can hear every subtle nuance of a cd like Underworld's Dubnobasswithmyheadman, which is sort of my fidelity testing cd because its mastered very quietly which is rare and i've played it so many times i know every little detail of it. so when i listen to dark & long and can hear the super-low-quietly-mixed ambient elements in the background i know i'm getting everything, and i just really cant imagine anything 'better' i like the older speakers too like the altec lansings i also got an elliptical needle for my audio technics lp60 and i think it tracks better even on scratchy vinyl (also fyi the lp60 has a fixed 3 gram head weight) i realize this is stupid to a lot of people, and i get it, but i like owning physical media. there is to me a whole 'experience' (yes i know, throw rotten veggies at me) in putting in that media and listening to it from end to end. Clint Anderson Systems Engineer On Mon, Apr 27, 2015 at 1:05 PM, kent williams <chaircrusher@gmail.com> wrote:

quoted 61 lines Actually Clint you have a pretty sweet setup circa 1979. I'd re-cap the

> Actually Clint you have a pretty sweet setup circa 1979. I'd re-cap the > amp and replaces the tweeters before I'd buy new! > > The UAC-202 is probably OK, but you can get a nicer DAC for not too much. > You can get a Native Instruments Audio Kontrol One for under $100 on EBay. > I use that for DJ'ing and playing live, and it sounds really good. > > > On Mon, Apr 27, 2015 at 12:28 PM Clint Anderson <clinta@gmail.com> wrote: > >> lol @ my setup >> >> audio technics lp60 turntable >> http://www.audio-technica.com/cms/turntables/9a7f42b88ee1e14b/ >> >> dynaco a25 speakers >> http://home.indy.net/~gregdunn/dynaco/components/speakers/ >> >> vector research va1100 amp >> http://www.iavscanada.com/product/vector-research-va1100-integrated-amp/ >> >> Clint Anderson >> Systems Engineer >> >> On Mon, Apr 27, 2015 at 12:00 PM, Claes Algström <claal67@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >>> I prefer cd. Have Nad amplifier and cd and Boston speakers. But they are >>> getting old. I thinking of buying Marantz 6005. >>> >>> I don't like scratchy vinyls, but I like album art. >>> >>> I also have a Nad 5.1 surround for FAX DTS cds, streaming and television. >>> >>> >>> >>> On Mon, Apr 27, 2015 at 6:33 PM, kent williams <chaircrusher@gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> What is your favorite listening system for music? >>>> >>>> Currently my living room setup is a Sony Home Theater Amp and Cerwin >>>> Vega RE25 speakers -- both purchased at the Goodwill. I just had to >>>> replace the foam surrounds on the RE25s, but they have 10" woofers and can >>>> shake knick knacks off the mantle. >>>> >>>> At work I have a Bravo Audio V2 Tube Headphone amp, Syba Sonic SD USB >>>> DAC, and Audio Technica M50 headphones. >>>> >>>> I have another DAC coming from China to test out. >>>> >>>> I've been gravitating toward buying and playing more lossless files, >>>> even though I'm not sure I can hear the difference. I accidentally bought >>>> the Bjork "Vulnicura" album at 24 bit/96khz resolution, and it sounds great >>>> played at full resolution, but I'm not sure I could tell it from >>>> 16bit/44.1khz in a double-blind test. For that matter, I've listened to >>>> 320kbs MP3s of this album and they sound great too. >>>> >>> >>> >>

I love vinyl, but I think CDs were a stopgap, unloveable format. I've thrown away more unplayable CDs than vinyl records, and I've been buying records since I was 9 years old in 1966. When I was listening to CDs most of the time, I kept having trouble with picky CD players. Record players are remarkably reliable and durable if they don't get beat up on. A friend of mine has a pair of old Technics 1200s that saw 3-4 nights use in a gay bar for 20+ years. CD players in general go bad way before that. Any more I'm more comfortable with digital if for no other reason that I have as much vinyl and CDs that I don't want any more cluttering up the house. If I'm doing 'deep listening' I like to have CD or better-quality source, but for background listening Spotify is just fine. On Mon, Apr 27, 2015 at 1:59 PM Clint Anderson <clinta@gmail.com> wrote:

quoted 88 lines i keep stuff until it breaks if its good :)

> i keep stuff until it breaks if its good :) > i also have a set of infrared noname headphones that i like > basically i got those speakers and amp and i can hear every subtle nuance > of a cd like Underworld's Dubnobasswithmyheadman, which is sort of my > fidelity testing cd because its mastered very quietly which is rare and > i've played it so many times i know every little detail of it. > so when i listen to dark & long and can hear the super-low-quietly-mixed > ambient elements in the background i know i'm getting everything, and i > just really cant imagine anything 'better' > i like the older speakers too like the altec lansings > i also got an elliptical needle for my audio technics lp60 and i think it > tracks better even on scratchy vinyl (also fyi the lp60 has a fixed 3 gram > head weight) > i realize this is stupid to a lot of people, and i get it, but i like > owning physical media. there is to me a whole 'experience' (yes i know, > throw rotten veggies at me) in putting in that media and listening to it > from end to end. > > > Clint Anderson > Systems Engineer > > On Mon, Apr 27, 2015 at 1:05 PM, kent williams <chaircrusher@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> Actually Clint you have a pretty sweet setup circa 1979. I'd re-cap the >> amp and replaces the tweeters before I'd buy new! >> >> The UAC-202 is probably OK, but you can get a nicer DAC for not too much. >> You can get a Native Instruments Audio Kontrol One for under $100 on EBay. >> I use that for DJ'ing and playing live, and it sounds really good. >> >> >> On Mon, Apr 27, 2015 at 12:28 PM Clint Anderson <clinta@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> lol @ my setup >>> >>> audio technics lp60 turntable >>> http://www.audio-technica.com/cms/turntables/9a7f42b88ee1e14b/ >>> >>> dynaco a25 speakers >>> http://home.indy.net/~gregdunn/dynaco/components/speakers/ >>> >>> vector research va1100 amp >>> http://www.iavscanada.com/product/vector-research-va1100-integrated-amp/ >>> >>> Clint Anderson >>> Systems Engineer >>> >>> On Mon, Apr 27, 2015 at 12:00 PM, Claes Algström <claal67@gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> I prefer cd. Have Nad amplifier and cd and Boston speakers. But they >>>> are getting old. I thinking of buying Marantz 6005. >>>> >>>> I don't like scratchy vinyls, but I like album art. >>>> >>>> I also have a Nad 5.1 surround for FAX DTS cds, streaming and >>>> television. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Mon, Apr 27, 2015 at 6:33 PM, kent williams <chaircrusher@gmail.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> What is your favorite listening system for music? >>>>> >>>>> Currently my living room setup is a Sony Home Theater Amp and Cerwin >>>>> Vega RE25 speakers -- both purchased at the Goodwill. I just had to >>>>> replace the foam surrounds on the RE25s, but they have 10" woofers and can >>>>> shake knick knacks off the mantle. >>>>> >>>>> At work I have a Bravo Audio V2 Tube Headphone amp, Syba Sonic SD USB >>>>> DAC, and Audio Technica M50 headphones. >>>>> >>>>> I have another DAC coming from China to test out. >>>>> >>>>> I've been gravitating toward buying and playing more lossless files, >>>>> even though I'm not sure I can hear the difference. I accidentally bought >>>>> the Bjork "Vulnicura" album at 24 bit/96khz resolution, and it sounds great >>>>> played at full resolution, but I'm not sure I could tell it from >>>>> 16bit/44.1khz in a double-blind test. For that matter, I've listened to >>>>> 320kbs MP3s of this album and they sound great too. >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >

this is also dumb but one of the things i sort of wish they had was 72 minute long single sided records so you didnt have to get up and flip them :) Clint Anderson Systems Engineer On Mon, Apr 27, 2015 at 2:21 PM, kent williams <chaircrusher@gmail.com> wrote:

quoted 107 lines I love vinyl, but I think CDs were a stopgap, unloveable format. I've

> I love vinyl, but I think CDs were a stopgap, unloveable format. I've > thrown away more unplayable CDs than vinyl records, and I've been buying > records since I was 9 years old in 1966. When I was listening to CDs most > of the time, I kept having trouble with picky CD players. Record players > are remarkably reliable and durable if they don't get beat up on. A friend > of mine has a pair of old Technics 1200s that saw 3-4 nights use in a gay > bar for 20+ years. CD players in general go bad way before that. > > Any more I'm more comfortable with digital if for no other reason that I > have as much vinyl and CDs that I don't want any more cluttering up the > house. > > If I'm doing 'deep listening' I like to have CD or better-quality source, > but for background listening Spotify is just fine. > > > On Mon, Apr 27, 2015 at 1:59 PM Clint Anderson <clinta@gmail.com> wrote: > >> i keep stuff until it breaks if its good :) >> i also have a set of infrared noname headphones that i like >> basically i got those speakers and amp and i can hear every subtle nuance >> of a cd like Underworld's Dubnobasswithmyheadman, which is sort of my >> fidelity testing cd because its mastered very quietly which is rare and >> i've played it so many times i know every little detail of it. >> so when i listen to dark & long and can hear the super-low-quietly-mixed >> ambient elements in the background i know i'm getting everything, and i >> just really cant imagine anything 'better' >> i like the older speakers too like the altec lansings >> i also got an elliptical needle for my audio technics lp60 and i think it >> tracks better even on scratchy vinyl (also fyi the lp60 has a fixed 3 gram >> head weight) >> i realize this is stupid to a lot of people, and i get it, but i like >> owning physical media. there is to me a whole 'experience' (yes i know, >> throw rotten veggies at me) in putting in that media and listening to it >> from end to end. >> >> >> Clint Anderson >> Systems Engineer >> >> On Mon, Apr 27, 2015 at 1:05 PM, kent williams <chaircrusher@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >>> Actually Clint you have a pretty sweet setup circa 1979. I'd re-cap the >>> amp and replaces the tweeters before I'd buy new! >>> >>> The UAC-202 is probably OK, but you can get a nicer DAC for not too >>> much. You can get a Native Instruments Audio Kontrol One for under $100 on >>> EBay. I use that for DJ'ing and playing live, and it sounds really good. >>> >>> >>> On Mon, Apr 27, 2015 at 12:28 PM Clint Anderson <clinta@gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> lol @ my setup >>>> >>>> audio technics lp60 turntable >>>> http://www.audio-technica.com/cms/turntables/9a7f42b88ee1e14b/ >>>> >>>> dynaco a25 speakers >>>> http://home.indy.net/~gregdunn/dynaco/components/speakers/ >>>> >>>> vector research va1100 amp >>>> http://www.iavscanada.com/product/vector-research-va1100-integrated-amp/ >>>> >>>> Clint Anderson >>>> Systems Engineer >>>> >>>> On Mon, Apr 27, 2015 at 12:00 PM, Claes Algström <claal67@gmail.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> I prefer cd. Have Nad amplifier and cd and Boston speakers. But they >>>>> are getting old. I thinking of buying Marantz 6005. >>>>> >>>>> I don't like scratchy vinyls, but I like album art. >>>>> >>>>> I also have a Nad 5.1 surround for FAX DTS cds, streaming and >>>>> television. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Mon, Apr 27, 2015 at 6:33 PM, kent williams <chaircrusher@gmail.com >>>>> > wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> What is your favorite listening system for music? >>>>>> >>>>>> Currently my living room setup is a Sony Home Theater Amp and Cerwin >>>>>> Vega RE25 speakers -- both purchased at the Goodwill. I just had to >>>>>> replace the foam surrounds on the RE25s, but they have 10" woofers and can >>>>>> shake knick knacks off the mantle. >>>>>> >>>>>> At work I have a Bravo Audio V2 Tube Headphone amp, Syba Sonic SD USB >>>>>> DAC, and Audio Technica M50 headphones. >>>>>> >>>>>> I have another DAC coming from China to test out. >>>>>> >>>>>> I've been gravitating toward buying and playing more lossless files, >>>>>> even though I'm not sure I can hear the difference. I accidentally bought >>>>>> the Bjork "Vulnicura" album at 24 bit/96khz resolution, and it sounds great >>>>>> played at full resolution, but I'm not sure I could tell it from >>>>>> 16bit/44.1khz in a double-blind test. For that matter, I've listened to >>>>>> 320kbs MP3s of this album and they sound great too. >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>

i've an Onkyo TX-NR609 amp (and for digital media, i use the built in DAC) Canton speakers (subwoofer + 2 satellites) from West Germany, so they're probably pretty old… sound great, tho. + 3 small plastic Technics speakers for 5.1 sound. also a pair of 45 year old Tandberg speakers in the kitchen, not much bass to speak of. and for vinyl a Technics SL-1210MK2, which i run through a nasty Numark DM1820X mixer, because i never got round to buying a preamp… 2015-04-27 20:59 GMT+02:00 Clint Anderson <clinta@gmail.com>:

quoted 88 lines i keep stuff until it breaks if its good :)

> i keep stuff until it breaks if its good :) > i also have a set of infrared noname headphones that i like > basically i got those speakers and amp and i can hear every subtle nuance > of a cd like Underworld's Dubnobasswithmyheadman, which is sort of my > fidelity testing cd because its mastered very quietly which is rare and > i've played it so many times i know every little detail of it. > so when i listen to dark & long and can hear the super-low-quietly-mixed > ambient elements in the background i know i'm getting everything, and i > just really cant imagine anything 'better' > i like the older speakers too like the altec lansings > i also got an elliptical needle for my audio technics lp60 and i think it > tracks better even on scratchy vinyl (also fyi the lp60 has a fixed 3 gram > head weight) > i realize this is stupid to a lot of people, and i get it, but i like > owning physical media. there is to me a whole 'experience' (yes i know, > throw rotten veggies at me) in putting in that media and listening to it > from end to end. > > > Clint Anderson > Systems Engineer > > On Mon, Apr 27, 2015 at 1:05 PM, kent williams <chaircrusher@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> Actually Clint you have a pretty sweet setup circa 1979. I'd re-cap the >> amp and replaces the tweeters before I'd buy new! >> >> The UAC-202 is probably OK, but you can get a nicer DAC for not too much. >> You can get a Native Instruments Audio Kontrol One for under $100 on EBay. >> I use that for DJ'ing and playing live, and it sounds really good. >> >> >> On Mon, Apr 27, 2015 at 12:28 PM Clint Anderson <clinta@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> lol @ my setup >>> >>> audio technics lp60 turntable >>> http://www.audio-technica.com/cms/turntables/9a7f42b88ee1e14b/ >>> >>> dynaco a25 speakers >>> http://home.indy.net/~gregdunn/dynaco/components/speakers/ >>> >>> vector research va1100 amp >>> http://www.iavscanada.com/product/vector-research-va1100-integrated-amp/ >>> >>> Clint Anderson >>> Systems Engineer >>> >>> On Mon, Apr 27, 2015 at 12:00 PM, Claes Algström <claal67@gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> I prefer cd. Have Nad amplifier and cd and Boston speakers. But they >>>> are getting old. I thinking of buying Marantz 6005. >>>> >>>> I don't like scratchy vinyls, but I like album art. >>>> >>>> I also have a Nad 5.1 surround for FAX DTS cds, streaming and >>>> television. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Mon, Apr 27, 2015 at 6:33 PM, kent williams <chaircrusher@gmail.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> What is your favorite listening system for music? >>>>> >>>>> Currently my living room setup is a Sony Home Theater Amp and Cerwin >>>>> Vega RE25 speakers -- both purchased at the Goodwill. I just had to >>>>> replace the foam surrounds on the RE25s, but they have 10" woofers and can >>>>> shake knick knacks off the mantle. >>>>> >>>>> At work I have a Bravo Audio V2 Tube Headphone amp, Syba Sonic SD USB >>>>> DAC, and Audio Technica M50 headphones. >>>>> >>>>> I have another DAC coming from China to test out. >>>>> >>>>> I've been gravitating toward buying and playing more lossless files, >>>>> even though I'm not sure I can hear the difference. I accidentally bought >>>>> the Bjork "Vulnicura" album at 24 bit/96khz resolution, and it sounds great >>>>> played at full resolution, but I'm not sure I could tell it from >>>>> 16bit/44.1khz in a double-blind test. For that matter, I've listened to >>>>> 320kbs MP3s of this album and they sound great too. >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >

-- constant shallowness leads to evil.

i hear diff things about turntables as far as audio quality goes there are some fringe opinions that belt driven are better because as the direct drive screws wear they can change rpm and whatnot still you can probably replace the screw yourself if youre a little handy Clint Anderson Systems Engineer On Mon, Apr 27, 2015 at 2:41 PM, kawayama <kawayama@gmail.com> wrote:

quoted 110 lines i've an Onkyo TX-NR609 amp (and for digital media, i use the built in DAC)

> i've an Onkyo TX-NR609 amp (and for digital media, i use the built in DAC) > > Canton speakers (subwoofer + 2 satellites) from West Germany, so they're > probably pretty old… sound great, tho. > + 3 small plastic Technics speakers for 5.1 sound. > > also a pair of 45 year old Tandberg speakers in the kitchen, not much bass > to speak of. > > and for vinyl a Technics SL-1210MK2, which i run through a nasty Numark > DM1820X mixer, because i never got round to buying a preamp… > > > 2015-04-27 20:59 GMT+02:00 Clint Anderson <clinta@gmail.com>: > >> i keep stuff until it breaks if its good :) >> i also have a set of infrared noname headphones that i like >> basically i got those speakers and amp and i can hear every subtle nuance >> of a cd like Underworld's Dubnobasswithmyheadman, which is sort of my >> fidelity testing cd because its mastered very quietly which is rare and >> i've played it so many times i know every little detail of it. >> so when i listen to dark & long and can hear the super-low-quietly-mixed >> ambient elements in the background i know i'm getting everything, and i >> just really cant imagine anything 'better' >> i like the older speakers too like the altec lansings >> i also got an elliptical needle for my audio technics lp60 and i think it >> tracks better even on scratchy vinyl (also fyi the lp60 has a fixed 3 gram >> head weight) >> i realize this is stupid to a lot of people, and i get it, but i like >> owning physical media. there is to me a whole 'experience' (yes i know, >> throw rotten veggies at me) in putting in that media and listening to it >> from end to end. >> >> >> Clint Anderson >> Systems Engineer >> >> On Mon, Apr 27, 2015 at 1:05 PM, kent williams <chaircrusher@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >>> Actually Clint you have a pretty sweet setup circa 1979. I'd re-cap the >>> amp and replaces the tweeters before I'd buy new! >>> >>> The UAC-202 is probably OK, but you can get a nicer DAC for not too >>> much. You can get a Native Instruments Audio Kontrol One for under $100 on >>> EBay. I use that for DJ'ing and playing live, and it sounds really good. >>> >>> >>> On Mon, Apr 27, 2015 at 12:28 PM Clint Anderson <clinta@gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> lol @ my setup >>>> >>>> audio technics lp60 turntable >>>> http://www.audio-technica.com/cms/turntables/9a7f42b88ee1e14b/ >>>> >>>> dynaco a25 speakers >>>> http://home.indy.net/~gregdunn/dynaco/components/speakers/ >>>> >>>> vector research va1100 amp >>>> http://www.iavscanada.com/product/vector-research-va1100-integrated-amp/ >>>> >>>> Clint Anderson >>>> Systems Engineer >>>> >>>> On Mon, Apr 27, 2015 at 12:00 PM, Claes Algström <claal67@gmail.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> I prefer cd. Have Nad amplifier and cd and Boston speakers. But they >>>>> are getting old. I thinking of buying Marantz 6005. >>>>> >>>>> I don't like scratchy vinyls, but I like album art. >>>>> >>>>> I also have a Nad 5.1 surround for FAX DTS cds, streaming and >>>>> television. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Mon, Apr 27, 2015 at 6:33 PM, kent williams <chaircrusher@gmail.com >>>>> > wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> What is your favorite listening system for music? >>>>>> >>>>>> Currently my living room setup is a Sony Home Theater Amp and Cerwin >>>>>> Vega RE25 speakers -- both purchased at the Goodwill. I just had to >>>>>> replace the foam surrounds on the RE25s, but they have 10" woofers and can >>>>>> shake knick knacks off the mantle. >>>>>> >>>>>> At work I have a Bravo Audio V2 Tube Headphone amp, Syba Sonic SD USB >>>>>> DAC, and Audio Technica M50 headphones. >>>>>> >>>>>> I have another DAC coming from China to test out. >>>>>> >>>>>> I've been gravitating toward buying and playing more lossless files, >>>>>> even though I'm not sure I can hear the difference. I accidentally bought >>>>>> the Bjork "Vulnicura" album at 24 bit/96khz resolution, and it sounds great >>>>>> played at full resolution, but I'm not sure I could tell it from >>>>>> 16bit/44.1khz in a double-blind test. For that matter, I've listened to >>>>>> 320kbs MP3s of this album and they sound great too. >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >> > > > -- > > constant shallowness leads to evil. >

Technics 1200s don't drift, in my experience. Belt Drives are popular with audiophiles, but A) belts break B) You can't slip cue C) Audiophiles believe all sorts of crazy shit. Seriously though, a nice belt drive machine can conceivable have better measured specs for ripple. But it's well below anything that's ever been audible to me, and I've spent many hours listening to 1200s. On Mon, Apr 27, 2015 at 3:00 PM Clint Anderson <clinta@gmail.com> wrote:

quoted 124 lines i hear diff things about turntables as far as audio quality goes

> i hear diff things about turntables as far as audio quality goes > there are some fringe opinions that belt driven are better because as the > direct drive screws wear they can change rpm and whatnot > still you can probably replace the screw yourself if youre a little handy > > > Clint Anderson > Systems Engineer > > On Mon, Apr 27, 2015 at 2:41 PM, kawayama <kawayama@gmail.com> wrote: > >> i've an Onkyo TX-NR609 amp (and for digital media, i use the built in DAC) >> >> Canton speakers (subwoofer + 2 satellites) from West Germany, so they're >> probably pretty old… sound great, tho. >> + 3 small plastic Technics speakers for 5.1 sound. >> >> also a pair of 45 year old Tandberg speakers in the kitchen, not much >> bass to speak of. >> >> and for vinyl a Technics SL-1210MK2, which i run through a nasty Numark >> DM1820X mixer, because i never got round to buying a preamp… >> >> >> 2015-04-27 20:59 GMT+02:00 Clint Anderson <clinta@gmail.com>: >> >>> i keep stuff until it breaks if its good :) >>> i also have a set of infrared noname headphones that i like >>> basically i got those speakers and amp and i can hear every subtle >>> nuance of a cd like Underworld's Dubnobasswithmyheadman, which is sort of >>> my fidelity testing cd because its mastered very quietly which is rare and >>> i've played it so many times i know every little detail of it. >>> so when i listen to dark & long and can hear the super-low-quietly-mixed >>> ambient elements in the background i know i'm getting everything, and i >>> just really cant imagine anything 'better' >>> i like the older speakers too like the altec lansings >>> i also got an elliptical needle for my audio technics lp60 and i think >>> it tracks better even on scratchy vinyl (also fyi the lp60 has a fixed 3 >>> gram head weight) >>> i realize this is stupid to a lot of people, and i get it, but i like >>> owning physical media. there is to me a whole 'experience' (yes i know, >>> throw rotten veggies at me) in putting in that media and listening to it >>> from end to end. >>> >>> >>> Clint Anderson >>> Systems Engineer >>> >>> On Mon, Apr 27, 2015 at 1:05 PM, kent williams <chaircrusher@gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Actually Clint you have a pretty sweet setup circa 1979. I'd re-cap >>>> the amp and replaces the tweeters before I'd buy new! >>>> >>>> The UAC-202 is probably OK, but you can get a nicer DAC for not too >>>> much. You can get a Native Instruments Audio Kontrol One for under $100 on >>>> EBay. I use that for DJ'ing and playing live, and it sounds really good. >>>> >>>> >>>> On Mon, Apr 27, 2015 at 12:28 PM Clint Anderson <clinta@gmail.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> lol @ my setup >>>>> >>>>> audio technics lp60 turntable >>>>> http://www.audio-technica.com/cms/turntables/9a7f42b88ee1e14b/ >>>>> >>>>> dynaco a25 speakers >>>>> http://home.indy.net/~gregdunn/dynaco/components/speakers/ >>>>> >>>>> vector research va1100 amp >>>>> >>>>> http://www.iavscanada.com/product/vector-research-va1100-integrated-amp/ >>>>> >>>>> Clint Anderson >>>>> Systems Engineer >>>>> >>>>> On Mon, Apr 27, 2015 at 12:00 PM, Claes Algström <claal67@gmail.com> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> I prefer cd. Have Nad amplifier and cd and Boston speakers. But they >>>>>> are getting old. I thinking of buying Marantz 6005. >>>>>> >>>>>> I don't like scratchy vinyls, but I like album art. >>>>>> >>>>>> I also have a Nad 5.1 surround for FAX DTS cds, streaming and >>>>>> television. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Mon, Apr 27, 2015 at 6:33 PM, kent williams < >>>>>> chaircrusher@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> What is your favorite listening system for music? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Currently my living room setup is a Sony Home Theater Amp and Cerwin >>>>>>> Vega RE25 speakers -- both purchased at the Goodwill. I just had to >>>>>>> replace the foam surrounds on the RE25s, but they have 10" woofers and can >>>>>>> shake knick knacks off the mantle. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> At work I have a Bravo Audio V2 Tube Headphone amp, Syba Sonic SD >>>>>>> USB DAC, and Audio Technica M50 headphones. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I have another DAC coming from China to test out. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I've been gravitating toward buying and playing more lossless files, >>>>>>> even though I'm not sure I can hear the difference. I accidentally bought >>>>>>> the Bjork "Vulnicura" album at 24 bit/96khz resolution, and it sounds great >>>>>>> played at full resolution, but I'm not sure I could tell it from >>>>>>> 16bit/44.1khz in a double-blind test. For that matter, I've listened to >>>>>>> 320kbs MP3s of this album and they sound great too. >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> >> constant shallowness leads to evil. >> > >

Speaking of unplayable CD's , I guess it's about time to pull out my chain reaction metal box CD's to see how they're holding out . . . . . thanks, *Jeffrey J Davis* jeff@jeffreyjdavis.com www.jeffreyjdavis.com 218.833.2847 <http://www.jeffreyjdavis.com> <https://plus.google.com/u/0/+JeffreyJDavis/about> <https://www.flickr.com/photos/phlow/> <http://instagram.com/jeffreyjdavis> <http://www.linkedin.com/in/jeffreyjdavis/> <http://www.twitter.com/jeffreyjdavis> <http://www.quora.com/Jeffrey-J-Davis> <https://soundcloud.com/jeffreyjdavis> On Mon, Apr 27, 2015 at 3:34 PM, kent williams <chaircrusher@gmail.com> wrote:

quoted 135 lines Technics 1200s don't drift, in my experience. Belt Drives are popular with

> Technics 1200s don't drift, in my experience. Belt Drives are popular with > audiophiles, but A) belts break B) You can't slip cue C) Audiophiles > believe all sorts of crazy shit. > > Seriously though, a nice belt drive machine can conceivable have better > measured specs for ripple. But it's well below anything that's ever been > audible to me, and I've spent many hours listening to 1200s. > > On Mon, Apr 27, 2015 at 3:00 PM Clint Anderson <clinta@gmail.com> wrote: > >> i hear diff things about turntables as far as audio quality goes >> there are some fringe opinions that belt driven are better because as the >> direct drive screws wear they can change rpm and whatnot >> still you can probably replace the screw yourself if youre a little handy >> >> >> Clint Anderson >> Systems Engineer >> >> On Mon, Apr 27, 2015 at 2:41 PM, kawayama <kawayama@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> i've an Onkyo TX-NR609 amp (and for digital media, i use the built in >>> DAC) >>> >>> Canton speakers (subwoofer + 2 satellites) from West Germany, so they're >>> probably pretty old… sound great, tho. >>> + 3 small plastic Technics speakers for 5.1 sound. >>> >>> also a pair of 45 year old Tandberg speakers in the kitchen, not much >>> bass to speak of. >>> >>> and for vinyl a Technics SL-1210MK2, which i run through a nasty Numark >>> DM1820X mixer, because i never got round to buying a preamp… >>> >>> >>> 2015-04-27 20:59 GMT+02:00 Clint Anderson <clinta@gmail.com>: >>> >>>> i keep stuff until it breaks if its good :) >>>> i also have a set of infrared noname headphones that i like >>>> basically i got those speakers and amp and i can hear every subtle >>>> nuance of a cd like Underworld's Dubnobasswithmyheadman, which is sort of >>>> my fidelity testing cd because its mastered very quietly which is rare and >>>> i've played it so many times i know every little detail of it. >>>> so when i listen to dark & long and can hear the >>>> super-low-quietly-mixed ambient elements in the background i know i'm >>>> getting everything, and i just really cant imagine anything 'better' >>>> i like the older speakers too like the altec lansings >>>> i also got an elliptical needle for my audio technics lp60 and i think >>>> it tracks better even on scratchy vinyl (also fyi the lp60 has a fixed 3 >>>> gram head weight) >>>> i realize this is stupid to a lot of people, and i get it, but i like >>>> owning physical media. there is to me a whole 'experience' (yes i know, >>>> throw rotten veggies at me) in putting in that media and listening to it >>>> from end to end. >>>> >>>> >>>> Clint Anderson >>>> Systems Engineer >>>> >>>> On Mon, Apr 27, 2015 at 1:05 PM, kent williams <chaircrusher@gmail.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Actually Clint you have a pretty sweet setup circa 1979. I'd re-cap >>>>> the amp and replaces the tweeters before I'd buy new! >>>>> >>>>> The UAC-202 is probably OK, but you can get a nicer DAC for not too >>>>> much. You can get a Native Instruments Audio Kontrol One for under $100 on >>>>> EBay. I use that for DJ'ing and playing live, and it sounds really good. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Mon, Apr 27, 2015 at 12:28 PM Clint Anderson <clinta@gmail.com> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> lol @ my setup >>>>>> >>>>>> audio technics lp60 turntable >>>>>> http://www.audio-technica.com/cms/turntables/9a7f42b88ee1e14b/ >>>>>> >>>>>> dynaco a25 speakers >>>>>> http://home.indy.net/~gregdunn/dynaco/components/speakers/ >>>>>> >>>>>> vector research va1100 amp >>>>>> >>>>>> http://www.iavscanada.com/product/vector-research-va1100-integrated-amp/ >>>>>> >>>>>> Clint Anderson >>>>>> Systems Engineer >>>>>> >>>>>> On Mon, Apr 27, 2015 at 12:00 PM, Claes Algström <claal67@gmail.com> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> I prefer cd. Have Nad amplifier and cd and Boston speakers. But they >>>>>>> are getting old. I thinking of buying Marantz 6005. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I don't like scratchy vinyls, but I like album art. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I also have a Nad 5.1 surround for FAX DTS cds, streaming and >>>>>>> television. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Mon, Apr 27, 2015 at 6:33 PM, kent williams < >>>>>>> chaircrusher@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> What is your favorite listening system for music? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Currently my living room setup is a Sony Home Theater Amp and >>>>>>>> Cerwin Vega RE25 speakers -- both purchased at the Goodwill. I just had to >>>>>>>> replace the foam surrounds on the RE25s, but they have 10" woofers and can >>>>>>>> shake knick knacks off the mantle. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> At work I have a Bravo Audio V2 Tube Headphone amp, Syba Sonic SD >>>>>>>> USB DAC, and Audio Technica M50 headphones. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I have another DAC coming from China to test out. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I've been gravitating toward buying and playing more lossless >>>>>>>> files, even though I'm not sure I can hear the difference. I accidentally >>>>>>>> bought the Bjork "Vulnicura" album at 24 bit/96khz resolution, and it >>>>>>>> sounds great played at full resolution, but I'm not sure I could tell it >>>>>>>> from 16bit/44.1khz in a double-blind test. For that matter, I've listened >>>>>>>> to 320kbs MP3s of this album and they sound great too. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> >>> constant shallowness leads to evil. >>> >> >>

I thought it was the vibrations from the motor, which could conceivably be heard through the pick-up, that was the problem with direct drives? -- constant shallowness leads to evil.

that too motor wears the screw/screw wears the motor if kent says it hasnt made a difference in 20 years i guess ill assume maybe it only applies to shitty non-technics direct drives :) Clint Anderson Systems Engineer On Mon, Apr 27, 2015 at 6:24 PM, kawayama <kawayama@gmail.com> wrote:

quoted 8 lines I thought it was the vibrations from the motor, which could conceivably be

> I thought it was the vibrations from the motor, which could conceivably be > heard through the pick-up, that was the problem with direct drives? > > > -- > > constant shallowness leads to evil. >

A 1210 has a fixed motor, which has 2 parts: A Brushless DC Stator is fixed to the base (AKA the plinth) and the Rotor is actually embedded in the platter. It works (as all electric motors do) by electromagnets repelling/attracting magnets to produce motion. There's some ripple built into the process because the electromagnets in the stator switch magnetic polaritys to push/pull the magnets in the rotor(platter). This can be damped by adding mass to the rotor, and the SL1200 does this, but the platter is relatively light so it isn't perfect. All the complaints from audiophiles like this mention 'coloration of treble' and collapse of their much-loved 'soundstage' -- a properly maintained SL1200 has very little ripple or vibration that's audible. In other words, audiophiles complain about things they may actually just be imaginating to justify spending thousands on fancier turntable. As for the bearing -- which is in the center of the platter -- I've never heard of anyone replacing them. It is a part that audiophiles do have fancy replacements for, on the theory that if it has less frictional resistance it will sound better. Dunno about that either. On Mon, Apr 27, 2015 at 6:34 PM Clint Anderson <clinta@gmail.com> wrote:

quoted 21 lines that too

> that too > motor wears the screw/screw wears the motor > if kent says it hasnt made a difference in 20 years i guess ill assume > maybe it only applies to shitty non-technics direct drives :) > > > Clint Anderson > Systems Engineer > > On Mon, Apr 27, 2015 at 6:24 PM, kawayama <kawayama@gmail.com> wrote: > >> I thought it was the vibrations from the motor, which could conceivably >> be heard through the pick-up, that was the problem with direct drives? >> >> >> -- >> >> constant shallowness leads to evil. >> > >

i'll take your word for it, you have a good ear ;) i had two 1400s just for my own listening but they got ripped off long ago so i replaced them with the lp60 which had good reviews for a sub-$300 turntable audio technica also makes an lp120 which is a weird clone of the sl1200, your guess as to what quality it is, it seems to cheap to be that great but at the same time has solid reviews. i just listen to one record at a time now, but i wish i had things like a replacable cartridge, or adjustable weight, pitch control at the time it didnt seem worth $100-150 Clint Anderson Systems Engineer On Mon, Apr 27, 2015 at 6:51 PM, kent williams <chaircrusher@gmail.com> wrote:

quoted 43 lines A 1210 has a fixed motor, which has 2 parts: A Brushless DC Stator is

> A 1210 has a fixed motor, which has 2 parts: A Brushless DC Stator is > fixed to the base (AKA the plinth) and the Rotor is actually embedded in > the platter. It works (as all electric motors do) by electromagnets > repelling/attracting magnets to produce motion. There's some ripple built > into the process because the electromagnets in the stator switch magnetic > polaritys to push/pull the magnets in the rotor(platter). This can be > damped by adding mass to the rotor, and the SL1200 does this, but the > platter is relatively light so it isn't perfect. > > All the complaints from audiophiles like this mention 'coloration of > treble' and collapse of their much-loved 'soundstage' -- a properly > maintained SL1200 has very little ripple or vibration that's audible. In > other words, audiophiles complain about things they may actually just be > imaginating to justify spending thousands on fancier turntable. > > As for the bearing -- which is in the center of the platter -- I've never > heard of anyone replacing them. It is a part that audiophiles do have fancy > replacements for, on the theory that if it has less frictional resistance > it will sound better. Dunno about that either. > > On Mon, Apr 27, 2015 at 6:34 PM Clint Anderson <clinta@gmail.com> wrote: > >> that too >> motor wears the screw/screw wears the motor >> if kent says it hasnt made a difference in 20 years i guess ill assume >> maybe it only applies to shitty non-technics direct drives :) >> >> >> Clint Anderson >> Systems Engineer >> >> On Mon, Apr 27, 2015 at 6:24 PM, kawayama <kawayama@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> I thought it was the vibrations from the motor, which could conceivably >>> be heard through the pick-up, that was the problem with direct drives? >>> >>> >>> -- >>> >>> constant shallowness leads to evil. >>> >> >>

there is another lesson here which is always use really good locks to lock up your stored shit Clint Anderson Systems Engineer On Mon, Apr 27, 2015 at 6:58 PM, Clint Anderson <clinta@gmail.com> wrote:

quoted 62 lines i'll take your word for it, you have a good ear ;)

> i'll take your word for it, you have a good ear ;) > i had two 1400s just for my own listening but they got ripped off long ago > so i replaced them with the lp60 which had good reviews for a sub-$300 > turntable > audio technica also makes an lp120 which is a weird clone of the sl1200, > your guess as to what quality it is, it seems to cheap to be that great but > at the same time has solid reviews. > i just listen to one record at a time now, but i wish i had things like a > replacable cartridge, or adjustable weight, pitch control > at the time it didnt seem worth $100-150 > > > Clint Anderson > Systems Engineer > > On Mon, Apr 27, 2015 at 6:51 PM, kent williams <chaircrusher@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> A 1210 has a fixed motor, which has 2 parts: A Brushless DC Stator is >> fixed to the base (AKA the plinth) and the Rotor is actually embedded in >> the platter. It works (as all electric motors do) by electromagnets >> repelling/attracting magnets to produce motion. There's some ripple built >> into the process because the electromagnets in the stator switch magnetic >> polaritys to push/pull the magnets in the rotor(platter). This can be >> damped by adding mass to the rotor, and the SL1200 does this, but the >> platter is relatively light so it isn't perfect. >> >> All the complaints from audiophiles like this mention 'coloration of >> treble' and collapse of their much-loved 'soundstage' -- a properly >> maintained SL1200 has very little ripple or vibration that's audible. In >> other words, audiophiles complain about things they may actually just be >> imaginating to justify spending thousands on fancier turntable. >> >> As for the bearing -- which is in the center of the platter -- I've never >> heard of anyone replacing them. It is a part that audiophiles do have fancy >> replacements for, on the theory that if it has less frictional resistance >> it will sound better. Dunno about that either. >> >> On Mon, Apr 27, 2015 at 6:34 PM Clint Anderson <clinta@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> that too >>> motor wears the screw/screw wears the motor >>> if kent says it hasnt made a difference in 20 years i guess ill assume >>> maybe it only applies to shitty non-technics direct drives :) >>> >>> >>> Clint Anderson >>> Systems Engineer >>> >>> On Mon, Apr 27, 2015 at 6:24 PM, kawayama <kawayama@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> I thought it was the vibrations from the motor, which could conceivably >>>> be heard through the pick-up, that was the problem with direct drives? >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> >>>> constant shallowness leads to evil. >>>> >>> >>> >

Technics 1210 Mk 2 BEHRINGER MICROPHONO PP400 phono preamp Schiit Vali Tube Headphone Amp Sennheiser HD 380 Pro headphones or Klipsch G-17 Air Stereo speaker I put this together to be as compact as possible, I can hide the preamp and headphone amp underneath the turntable. And the Klipsch speaker sounds great for how small it is. But for vinyl I usually use the headphones. I also have an iPhone on which I listen to 320 mp3s on Nocs earbuds that I got from Bleep.com, while riding my bike or working. Quit CDs around 2005. On Apr 27, 2015, at 5:00 PM, Clint Anderson <clinta@gmail.com> wrote:

quoted 43 lines there is another lesson here which is always use really good locks to lock up your stored

> there is another lesson here which is always use really good locks to lock up your stored shit > > > Clint Anderson > Systems Engineer > > On Mon, Apr 27, 2015 at 6:58 PM, Clint Anderson <clinta@gmail.com> wrote: > i'll take your word for it, you have a good ear ;) > i had two 1400s just for my own listening but they got ripped off long ago so i replaced them with the lp60 which had good reviews for a sub-$300 turntable > audio technica also makes an lp120 which is a weird clone of the sl1200, your guess as to what quality it is, it seems to cheap to be that great but at the same time has solid reviews. > i just listen to one record at a time now, but i wish i had things like a replacable cartridge, or adjustable weight, pitch control > at the time it didnt seem worth $100-150 > > > Clint Anderson > Systems Engineer > > On Mon, Apr 27, 2015 at 6:51 PM, kent williams <chaircrusher@gmail.com> wrote: > A 1210 has a fixed motor, which has 2 parts: A Brushless DC Stator is fixed to the base (AKA the plinth) and the Rotor is actually embedded in the platter. It works (as all electric motors do) by electromagnets repelling/attracting magnets to produce motion. There's some ripple built into the process because the electromagnets in the stator switch magnetic polaritys to push/pull the magnets in the rotor(platter). This can be damped by adding mass to the rotor, and the SL1200 does this, but the platter is relatively light so it isn't perfect. > > All the complaints from audiophiles like this mention 'coloration of treble' and collapse of their much-loved 'soundstage' -- a properly maintained SL1200 has very little ripple or vibration that's audible. In other words, audiophiles complain about things they may actually just be imaginating to justify spending thousands on fancier turntable. > > As for the bearing -- which is in the center of the platter -- I've never heard of anyone replacing them. It is a part that audiophiles do have fancy replacements for, on the theory that if it has less frictional resistance it will sound better. Dunno about that either. > > On Mon, Apr 27, 2015 at 6:34 PM Clint Anderson <clinta@gmail.com> wrote: > that too > motor wears the screw/screw wears the motor > if kent says it hasnt made a difference in 20 years i guess ill assume maybe it only applies to shitty non-technics direct drives :) > > > Clint Anderson > Systems Engineer > > On Mon, Apr 27, 2015 at 6:24 PM, kawayama <kawayama@gmail.com> wrote: > I thought it was the vibrations from the motor, which could conceivably be heard through the pick-up, that was the problem with direct drives? > > > -- > > constant shallowness leads to evil. > > >

Which player do you recommend for flacs on mac and pc respectively?

quoted 112 lines 28 apr 2015 kl. 08:04 skrev Michael Bramwell <mbramwell@gmail.com>:

> 28 apr 2015 kl. 08:04 skrev Michael Bramwell <mbramwell@gmail.com>: > > In the lounge rooms its: > > 2 x Technics 1210 Mk 2 > Digital comes from a macbook pro via audio8 soundcard (flacs are > preferred but mp3s are fine as well) > > The above go through an Xone:92 mixer and out to some Behringer Truth > B2031A monitors, which unlike everything else behringer make are > pretty nice, at least to my ears. > > On the bus to work its just some tunes via my droid and some > Sennheiser CX 300-II Precision ear buds. > > My first choice is always vinyl, followed by flacs, cds never as they > quickly get scratched beyond use in mine and my kids hands. > > On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 9:51 AM, karl poechlauer > <karljpoechlauer@yahoo.com> wrote: >> Technics 1210 Mk 2 >> >> BEHRINGER MICROPHONO PP400 phono preamp >> >> Schiit Vali Tube Headphone Amp >> Sennheiser HD 380 Pro headphones >> or Klipsch G-17 Air Stereo speaker >> >> I put this together to be as compact as possible, I can hide the preamp and >> headphone amp underneath the turntable. And the Klipsch speaker sounds great >> for how small it is. But for vinyl I usually use the headphones. >> >> I also have an iPhone on which I listen to 320 mp3s on Nocs earbuds that I >> got from Bleep.com, while riding my bike or working. >> >> Quit CDs around 2005. >> >> >> >> >> >> On Apr 27, 2015, at 5:00 PM, Clint Anderson <clinta@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> there is another lesson here which is always use really good locks to lock >> up your stored shit >> >> >> Clint Anderson >> Systems Engineer >> >>> On Mon, Apr 27, 2015 at 6:58 PM, Clint Anderson <clinta@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> i'll take your word for it, you have a good ear ;) >>> i had two 1400s just for my own listening but they got ripped off long ago >>> so i replaced them with the lp60 which had good reviews for a sub-$300 >>> turntable >>> audio technica also makes an lp120 which is a weird clone of the sl1200, >>> your guess as to what quality it is, it seems to cheap to be that great but >>> at the same time has solid reviews. >>> i just listen to one record at a time now, but i wish i had things like a >>> replacable cartridge, or adjustable weight, pitch control >>> at the time it didnt seem worth $100-150 >>> >>> >>> Clint Anderson >>> Systems Engineer >>> >>> On Mon, Apr 27, 2015 at 6:51 PM, kent williams <chaircrusher@gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>>> >>>> A 1210 has a fixed motor, which has 2 parts: A Brushless DC Stator is >>>> fixed to the base (AKA the plinth) and the Rotor is actually embedded in the >>>> platter. It works (as all electric motors do) by electromagnets >>>> repelling/attracting magnets to produce motion. There's some ripple built >>>> into the process because the electromagnets in the stator switch magnetic >>>> polaritys to push/pull the magnets in the rotor(platter). This can be >>>> damped by adding mass to the rotor, and the SL1200 does this, but the >>>> platter is relatively light so it isn't perfect. >>>> >>>> All the complaints from audiophiles like this mention 'coloration of >>>> treble' and collapse of their much-loved 'soundstage' -- a properly >>>> maintained SL1200 has very little ripple or vibration that's audible. In >>>> other words, audiophiles complain about things they may actually just be >>>> imaginating to justify spending thousands on fancier turntable. >>>> >>>> As for the bearing -- which is in the center of the platter -- I've never >>>> heard of anyone replacing them. It is a part that audiophiles do have fancy >>>> replacements for, on the theory that if it has less frictional resistance it >>>> will sound better. Dunno about that either. >>>> >>>>> On Mon, Apr 27, 2015 at 6:34 PM Clint Anderson <clinta@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> that too >>>>> motor wears the screw/screw wears the motor >>>>> if kent says it hasnt made a difference in 20 years i guess ill assume >>>>> maybe it only applies to shitty non-technics direct drives :) >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Clint Anderson >>>>> Systems Engineer >>>>> >>>>>> On Mon, Apr 27, 2015 at 6:24 PM, kawayama <kawayama@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> I thought it was the vibrations from the motor, which could conceivably >>>>>> be heard through the pick-up, that was the problem with direct drives? >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> >>>>>> constant shallowness leads to evil. >> >>

for mac I never found a better player than http://cogx.org/ does not need any "library", just your music folder, light as hell, plays flac.... fuck I love it. I'm listening on Cabasse Moorea 420 + AMC Amplifier or Adam A7X / Babyface in the Studio. @Clint I got 3 original dynaco a25 woofers in fine condition, which I would sell. Just if you need them one day. 2015-04-29 19:40 GMT+02:00 Claes <claal67@gmail.com>:

quoted 139 lines Which player do you recommend for flacs on mac and pc respectively?

> Which player do you recommend for flacs on mac and pc respectively? > > > > 28 apr 2015 kl. 08:04 skrev Michael Bramwell <mbramwell@gmail.com>: > > > > In the lounge rooms its: > > > > 2 x Technics 1210 Mk 2 > > Digital comes from a macbook pro via audio8 soundcard (flacs are > > preferred but mp3s are fine as well) > > > > The above go through an Xone:92 mixer and out to some Behringer Truth > > B2031A monitors, which unlike everything else behringer make are > > pretty nice, at least to my ears. > > > > On the bus to work its just some tunes via my droid and some > > Sennheiser CX 300-II Precision ear buds. > > > > My first choice is always vinyl, followed by flacs, cds never as they > > quickly get scratched beyond use in mine and my kids hands. > > > > On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 9:51 AM, karl poechlauer > > <karljpoechlauer@yahoo.com> wrote: > >> Technics 1210 Mk 2 > >> > >> BEHRINGER MICROPHONO PP400 phono preamp > >> > >> Schiit Vali Tube Headphone Amp > >> Sennheiser HD 380 Pro headphones > >> or Klipsch G-17 Air Stereo speaker > >> > >> I put this together to be as compact as possible, I can hide the preamp > and > >> headphone amp underneath the turntable. And the Klipsch speaker sounds > great > >> for how small it is. But for vinyl I usually use the headphones. > >> > >> I also have an iPhone on which I listen to 320 mp3s on Nocs earbuds > that I > >> got from Bleep.com, while riding my bike or working. > >> > >> Quit CDs around 2005. > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> On Apr 27, 2015, at 5:00 PM, Clint Anderson <clinta@gmail.com> wrote: > >> > >> there is another lesson here which is always use really good locks to > lock > >> up your stored shit > >> > >> > >> Clint Anderson > >> Systems Engineer > >> > >>> On Mon, Apr 27, 2015 at 6:58 PM, Clint Anderson <clinta@gmail.com> > wrote: > >>> > >>> i'll take your word for it, you have a good ear ;) > >>> i had two 1400s just for my own listening but they got ripped off long > ago > >>> so i replaced them with the lp60 which had good reviews for a sub-$300 > >>> turntable > >>> audio technica also makes an lp120 which is a weird clone of the > sl1200, > >>> your guess as to what quality it is, it seems to cheap to be that > great but > >>> at the same time has solid reviews. > >>> i just listen to one record at a time now, but i wish i had things > like a > >>> replacable cartridge, or adjustable weight, pitch control > >>> at the time it didnt seem worth $100-150 > >>> > >>> > >>> Clint Anderson > >>> Systems Engineer > >>> > >>> On Mon, Apr 27, 2015 at 6:51 PM, kent williams <chaircrusher@gmail.com > > > >>> wrote: > >>>> > >>>> A 1210 has a fixed motor, which has 2 parts: A Brushless DC Stator is > >>>> fixed to the base (AKA the plinth) and the Rotor is actually embedded > in the > >>>> platter. It works (as all electric motors do) by electromagnets > >>>> repelling/attracting magnets to produce motion. There's some ripple > built > >>>> into the process because the electromagnets in the stator switch > magnetic > >>>> polaritys to push/pull the magnets in the rotor(platter). This can be > >>>> damped by adding mass to the rotor, and the SL1200 does this, but the > >>>> platter is relatively light so it isn't perfect. > >>>> > >>>> All the complaints from audiophiles like this mention 'coloration of > >>>> treble' and collapse of their much-loved 'soundstage' -- a properly > >>>> maintained SL1200 has very little ripple or vibration that's audible. > In > >>>> other words, audiophiles complain about things they may actually just > be > >>>> imaginating to justify spending thousands on fancier turntable. > >>>> > >>>> As for the bearing -- which is in the center of the platter -- I've > never > >>>> heard of anyone replacing them. It is a part that audiophiles do have > fancy > >>>> replacements for, on the theory that if it has less frictional > resistance it > >>>> will sound better. Dunno about that either. > >>>> > >>>>> On Mon, Apr 27, 2015 at 6:34 PM Clint Anderson <clinta@gmail.com> > wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>> that too > >>>>> motor wears the screw/screw wears the motor > >>>>> if kent says it hasnt made a difference in 20 years i guess ill > assume > >>>>> maybe it only applies to shitty non-technics direct drives :) > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> Clint Anderson > >>>>> Systems Engineer > >>>>> > >>>>>> On Mon, Apr 27, 2015 at 6:24 PM, kawayama <kawayama@gmail.com> > wrote: > >>>>>> > >>>>>> I thought it was the vibrations from the motor, which could > conceivably > >>>>>> be heard through the pick-up, that was the problem with direct > drives? > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> -- > >>>>>> > >>>>>> constant shallowness leads to evil. > >> > >> >

Ok! I have been looking into Adam A7X for studio monitors. Would you recommend them for mostly electronic music?

quoted 128 lines 29 apr 2015 kl. 19:51 skrev Dimitrij <dekantierer@googlemail.com>:

> 29 apr 2015 kl. 19:51 skrev Dimitrij <dekantierer@googlemail.com>: > > for mac I never found a better player than http://cogx.org/ > does not need any "library", just your music folder, light as hell, plays flac.... fuck I love it. > > I'm listening on Cabasse Moorea 420 + AMC Amplifier or Adam A7X / Babyface in the Studio. > > @Clint I got 3 original dynaco a25 woofers in fine condition, which I would sell. > Just if you need them one day. > > > 2015-04-29 19:40 GMT+02:00 Claes <claal67@gmail.com>: >> Which player do you recommend for flacs on mac and pc respectively? >> >> >> > 28 apr 2015 kl. 08:04 skrev Michael Bramwell <mbramwell@gmail.com>: >> > >> > In the lounge rooms its: >> > >> > 2 x Technics 1210 Mk 2 >> > Digital comes from a macbook pro via audio8 soundcard (flacs are >> > preferred but mp3s are fine as well) >> > >> > The above go through an Xone:92 mixer and out to some Behringer Truth >> > B2031A monitors, which unlike everything else behringer make are >> > pretty nice, at least to my ears. >> > >> > On the bus to work its just some tunes via my droid and some >> > Sennheiser CX 300-II Precision ear buds. >> > >> > My first choice is always vinyl, followed by flacs, cds never as they >> > quickly get scratched beyond use in mine and my kids hands. >> > >> > On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 9:51 AM, karl poechlauer >> > <karljpoechlauer@yahoo.com> wrote: >> >> Technics 1210 Mk 2 >> >> >> >> BEHRINGER MICROPHONO PP400 phono preamp >> >> >> >> Schiit Vali Tube Headphone Amp >> >> Sennheiser HD 380 Pro headphones >> >> or Klipsch G-17 Air Stereo speaker >> >> >> >> I put this together to be as compact as possible, I can hide the preamp and >> >> headphone amp underneath the turntable. And the Klipsch speaker sounds great >> >> for how small it is. But for vinyl I usually use the headphones. >> >> >> >> I also have an iPhone on which I listen to 320 mp3s on Nocs earbuds that I >> >> got from Bleep.com, while riding my bike or working. >> >> >> >> Quit CDs around 2005. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Apr 27, 2015, at 5:00 PM, Clint Anderson <clinta@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> >> >> there is another lesson here which is always use really good locks to lock >> >> up your stored shit >> >> >> >> >> >> Clint Anderson >> >> Systems Engineer >> >> >> >>> On Mon, Apr 27, 2015 at 6:58 PM, Clint Anderson <clinta@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> >> >>> i'll take your word for it, you have a good ear ;) >> >>> i had two 1400s just for my own listening but they got ripped off long ago >> >>> so i replaced them with the lp60 which had good reviews for a sub-$300 >> >>> turntable >> >>> audio technica also makes an lp120 which is a weird clone of the sl1200, >> >>> your guess as to what quality it is, it seems to cheap to be that great but >> >>> at the same time has solid reviews. >> >>> i just listen to one record at a time now, but i wish i had things like a >> >>> replacable cartridge, or adjustable weight, pitch control >> >>> at the time it didnt seem worth $100-150 >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> Clint Anderson >> >>> Systems Engineer >> >>> >> >>> On Mon, Apr 27, 2015 at 6:51 PM, kent williams <chaircrusher@gmail.com> >> >>> wrote: >> >>>> >> >>>> A 1210 has a fixed motor, which has 2 parts: A Brushless DC Stator is >> >>>> fixed to the base (AKA the plinth) and the Rotor is actually embedded in the >> >>>> platter. It works (as all electric motors do) by electromagnets >> >>>> repelling/attracting magnets to produce motion. There's some ripple built >> >>>> into the process because the electromagnets in the stator switch magnetic >> >>>> polaritys to push/pull the magnets in the rotor(platter). This can be >> >>>> damped by adding mass to the rotor, and the SL1200 does this, but the >> >>>> platter is relatively light so it isn't perfect. >> >>>> >> >>>> All the complaints from audiophiles like this mention 'coloration of >> >>>> treble' and collapse of their much-loved 'soundstage' -- a properly >> >>>> maintained SL1200 has very little ripple or vibration that's audible. In >> >>>> other words, audiophiles complain about things they may actually just be >> >>>> imaginating to justify spending thousands on fancier turntable. >> >>>> >> >>>> As for the bearing -- which is in the center of the platter -- I've never >> >>>> heard of anyone replacing them. It is a part that audiophiles do have fancy >> >>>> replacements for, on the theory that if it has less frictional resistance it >> >>>> will sound better. Dunno about that either. >> >>>> >> >>>>> On Mon, Apr 27, 2015 at 6:34 PM Clint Anderson <clinta@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>>>> >> >>>>> that too >> >>>>> motor wears the screw/screw wears the motor >> >>>>> if kent says it hasnt made a difference in 20 years i guess ill assume >> >>>>> maybe it only applies to shitty non-technics direct drives :) >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> Clint Anderson >> >>>>> Systems Engineer >> >>>>> >> >>>>>> On Mon, Apr 27, 2015 at 6:24 PM, kawayama <kawayama@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> I thought it was the vibrations from the motor, which could conceivably >> >>>>>> be heard through the pick-up, that was the problem with direct drives? >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> -- >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> constant shallowness leads to evil. >> >> >> >> >

People generally rate Genelec monitors over Adam at the same price point, but your best bet is to find somewhere to actually hear them in action. And honestly, I'd use a recording of acoustic performances -- bluegrass, string quartets, etc -- in addition to what you normally listen to, after familiarizing yourself with the music on a system you already know. It's really hard to judge the quality of speakers when you're listening to electronic music, since it's made up of artificial sounds that are treated and manipulated heavily. A live performance in a natural reverberant space is the most difficult to reproduce accurately, and is great for pointing out weakness in a playback system. Another acid test are bells and chimes. Something like this might be a good reference CD if it doesn't drive you nuts ;-) http://amzn.to/1zeuLG4 On Wed, Apr 29, 2015 at 3:08 PM C A <claal67@gmail.com> wrote:

quoted 163 lines Ok!

> Ok! > > I have been looking into Adam A7X for studio monitors. Would you recommend > them for mostly electronic music? > > 29 apr 2015 kl. 19:51 skrev Dimitrij <dekantierer@googlemail.com>: > > for mac I never found a better player than http://cogx.org/ > does not need any "library", just your music folder, light as hell, plays > flac.... fuck I love it. > > I'm listening on Cabasse Moorea 420 + AMC Amplifier or Adam A7X / Babyface > in the Studio. > > @Clint I got 3 original dynaco a25 woofers in fine condition, which I > would sell. > Just if you need them one day. > > > 2015-04-29 19:40 GMT+02:00 Claes <claal67@gmail.com>: > >> Which player do you recommend for flacs on mac and pc respectively? >> >> >> > 28 apr 2015 kl. 08:04 skrev Michael Bramwell <mbramwell@gmail.com>: >> > >> > In the lounge rooms its: >> > >> > 2 x Technics 1210 Mk 2 >> > Digital comes from a macbook pro via audio8 soundcard (flacs are >> > preferred but mp3s are fine as well) >> > >> > The above go through an Xone:92 mixer and out to some Behringer Truth >> > B2031A monitors, which unlike everything else behringer make are >> > pretty nice, at least to my ears. >> > >> > On the bus to work its just some tunes via my droid and some >> > Sennheiser CX 300-II Precision ear buds. >> > >> > My first choice is always vinyl, followed by flacs, cds never as they >> > quickly get scratched beyond use in mine and my kids hands. >> > >> > On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 9:51 AM, karl poechlauer >> > <karljpoechlauer@yahoo.com> wrote: >> >> Technics 1210 Mk 2 >> >> >> >> BEHRINGER MICROPHONO PP400 phono preamp >> >> >> >> Schiit Vali Tube Headphone Amp >> >> Sennheiser HD 380 Pro headphones >> >> or Klipsch G-17 Air Stereo speaker >> >> >> >> I put this together to be as compact as possible, I can hide the >> preamp and >> >> headphone amp underneath the turntable. And the Klipsch speaker sounds >> great >> >> for how small it is. But for vinyl I usually use the headphones. >> >> >> >> I also have an iPhone on which I listen to 320 mp3s on Nocs earbuds >> that I >> >> got from Bleep.com, while riding my bike or working. >> >> >> >> Quit CDs around 2005. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Apr 27, 2015, at 5:00 PM, Clint Anderson <clinta@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> >> >> there is another lesson here which is always use really good locks to >> lock >> >> up your stored shit >> >> >> >> >> >> Clint Anderson >> >> Systems Engineer >> >> >> >>> On Mon, Apr 27, 2015 at 6:58 PM, Clint Anderson <clinta@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >>> >> >>> i'll take your word for it, you have a good ear ;) >> >>> i had two 1400s just for my own listening but they got ripped off >> long ago >> >>> so i replaced them with the lp60 which had good reviews for a sub-$300 >> >>> turntable >> >>> audio technica also makes an lp120 which is a weird clone of the >> sl1200, >> >>> your guess as to what quality it is, it seems to cheap to be that >> great but >> >>> at the same time has solid reviews. >> >>> i just listen to one record at a time now, but i wish i had things >> like a >> >>> replacable cartridge, or adjustable weight, pitch control >> >>> at the time it didnt seem worth $100-150 >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> Clint Anderson >> >>> Systems Engineer >> >>> >> >>> On Mon, Apr 27, 2015 at 6:51 PM, kent williams < >> chaircrusher@gmail.com> >> >>> wrote: >> >>>> >> >>>> A 1210 has a fixed motor, which has 2 parts: A Brushless DC Stator is >> >>>> fixed to the base (AKA the plinth) and the Rotor is actually >> embedded in the >> >>>> platter. It works (as all electric motors do) by electromagnets >> >>>> repelling/attracting magnets to produce motion. There's some ripple >> built >> >>>> into the process because the electromagnets in the stator switch >> magnetic >> >>>> polaritys to push/pull the magnets in the rotor(platter). This can >> be >> >>>> damped by adding mass to the rotor, and the SL1200 does this, but the >> >>>> platter is relatively light so it isn't perfect. >> >>>> >> >>>> All the complaints from audiophiles like this mention 'coloration of >> >>>> treble' and collapse of their much-loved 'soundstage' -- a properly >> >>>> maintained SL1200 has very little ripple or vibration that's >> audible. In >> >>>> other words, audiophiles complain about things they may actually >> just be >> >>>> imaginating to justify spending thousands on fancier turntable. >> >>>> >> >>>> As for the bearing -- which is in the center of the platter -- I've >> never >> >>>> heard of anyone replacing them. It is a part that audiophiles do >> have fancy >> >>>> replacements for, on the theory that if it has less frictional >> resistance it >> >>>> will sound better. Dunno about that either. >> >>>> >> >>>>> On Mon, Apr 27, 2015 at 6:34 PM Clint Anderson <clinta@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >>>>> >> >>>>> that too >> >>>>> motor wears the screw/screw wears the motor >> >>>>> if kent says it hasnt made a difference in 20 years i guess ill >> assume >> >>>>> maybe it only applies to shitty non-technics direct drives :) >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> Clint Anderson >> >>>>> Systems Engineer >> >>>>> >> >>>>>> On Mon, Apr 27, 2015 at 6:24 PM, kawayama <kawayama@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> I thought it was the vibrations from the motor, which could >> conceivably >> >>>>>> be heard through the pick-up, that was the problem with direct >> drives? >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> -- >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> constant shallowness leads to evil. >> >> >> >> >> > >

These guys have good bells recordings. New Agey I know but it is a ggreat speaker test. On Wed, Apr 29, 2015 at 5:12 PM kent williams <chaircrusher@gmail.com> wrote:

quoted 183 lines People generally rate Genelec monitors over Adam at the same price point,

> People generally rate Genelec monitors over Adam at the same price point, > but your best bet is to find somewhere to actually hear them in action. > And honestly, I'd use a recording of acoustic performances -- bluegrass, > string quartets, etc -- in addition to what you normally listen to, after > familiarizing yourself with the music on a system you already know. > > It's really hard to judge the quality of speakers when you're listening to > electronic music, since it's made up of artificial sounds that are treated > and manipulated heavily. A live performance in a natural reverberant space > is the most difficult to reproduce accurately, and is great for pointing > out weakness in a playback system. > > Another acid test are bells and chimes. Something like this might be a > good reference CD if it doesn't drive you nuts ;-) http://amzn.to/1zeuLG4 > > On Wed, Apr 29, 2015 at 3:08 PM C A <claal67@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Ok! >> >> I have been looking into Adam A7X for studio monitors. Would you >> recommend them for mostly electronic music? >> >> 29 apr 2015 kl. 19:51 skrev Dimitrij <dekantierer@googlemail.com>: >> >> for mac I never found a better player than http://cogx.org/ >> does not need any "library", just your music folder, light as hell, plays >> flac.... fuck I love it. >> >> I'm listening on Cabasse Moorea 420 + AMC Amplifier or Adam A7X / >> Babyface in the Studio. >> >> @Clint I got 3 original dynaco a25 woofers in fine condition, which I >> would sell. >> Just if you need them one day. >> >> >> 2015-04-29 19:40 GMT+02:00 Claes <claal67@gmail.com>: >> >>> Which player do you recommend for flacs on mac and pc respectively? >>> >>> >>> > 28 apr 2015 kl. 08:04 skrev Michael Bramwell <mbramwell@gmail.com>: >>> > >>> > In the lounge rooms its: >>> > >>> > 2 x Technics 1210 Mk 2 >>> > Digital comes from a macbook pro via audio8 soundcard (flacs are >>> > preferred but mp3s are fine as well) >>> > >>> > The above go through an Xone:92 mixer and out to some Behringer Truth >>> > B2031A monitors, which unlike everything else behringer make are >>> > pretty nice, at least to my ears. >>> > >>> > On the bus to work its just some tunes via my droid and some >>> > Sennheiser CX 300-II Precision ear buds. >>> > >>> > My first choice is always vinyl, followed by flacs, cds never as they >>> > quickly get scratched beyond use in mine and my kids hands. >>> > >>> > On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 9:51 AM, karl poechlauer >>> > <karljpoechlauer@yahoo.com> wrote: >>> >> Technics 1210 Mk 2 >>> >> >>> >> BEHRINGER MICROPHONO PP400 phono preamp >>> >> >>> >> Schiit Vali Tube Headphone Amp >>> >> Sennheiser HD 380 Pro headphones >>> >> or Klipsch G-17 Air Stereo speaker >>> >> >>> >> I put this together to be as compact as possible, I can hide the >>> preamp and >>> >> headphone amp underneath the turntable. And the Klipsch speaker >>> sounds great >>> >> for how small it is. But for vinyl I usually use the headphones. >>> >> >>> >> I also have an iPhone on which I listen to 320 mp3s on Nocs earbuds >>> that I >>> >> got from Bleep.com, while riding my bike or working. >>> >> >>> >> Quit CDs around 2005. >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> On Apr 27, 2015, at 5:00 PM, Clint Anderson <clinta@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >> >>> >> there is another lesson here which is always use really good locks to >>> lock >>> >> up your stored shit >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> Clint Anderson >>> >> Systems Engineer >>> >> >>> >>> On Mon, Apr 27, 2015 at 6:58 PM, Clint Anderson <clinta@gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> i'll take your word for it, you have a good ear ;) >>> >>> i had two 1400s just for my own listening but they got ripped off >>> long ago >>> >>> so i replaced them with the lp60 which had good reviews for a >>> sub-$300 >>> >>> turntable >>> >>> audio technica also makes an lp120 which is a weird clone of the >>> sl1200, >>> >>> your guess as to what quality it is, it seems to cheap to be that >>> great but >>> >>> at the same time has solid reviews. >>> >>> i just listen to one record at a time now, but i wish i had things >>> like a >>> >>> replacable cartridge, or adjustable weight, pitch control >>> >>> at the time it didnt seem worth $100-150 >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Clint Anderson >>> >>> Systems Engineer >>> >>> >>> >>> On Mon, Apr 27, 2015 at 6:51 PM, kent williams < >>> chaircrusher@gmail.com> >>> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> >>> >>>> A 1210 has a fixed motor, which has 2 parts: A Brushless DC Stator >>> is >>> >>>> fixed to the base (AKA the plinth) and the Rotor is actually >>> embedded in the >>> >>>> platter. It works (as all electric motors do) by electromagnets >>> >>>> repelling/attracting magnets to produce motion. There's some >>> ripple built >>> >>>> into the process because the electromagnets in the stator switch >>> magnetic >>> >>>> polaritys to push/pull the magnets in the rotor(platter). This can >>> be >>> >>>> damped by adding mass to the rotor, and the SL1200 does this, but >>> the >>> >>>> platter is relatively light so it isn't perfect. >>> >>>> >>> >>>> All the complaints from audiophiles like this mention 'coloration of >>> >>>> treble' and collapse of their much-loved 'soundstage' -- a properly >>> >>>> maintained SL1200 has very little ripple or vibration that's >>> audible. In >>> >>>> other words, audiophiles complain about things they may actually >>> just be >>> >>>> imaginating to justify spending thousands on fancier turntable. >>> >>>> >>> >>>> As for the bearing -- which is in the center of the platter -- I've >>> never >>> >>>> heard of anyone replacing them. It is a part that audiophiles do >>> have fancy >>> >>>> replacements for, on the theory that if it has less frictional >>> resistance it >>> >>>> will sound better. Dunno about that either. >>> >>>> >>> >>>>> On Mon, Apr 27, 2015 at 6:34 PM Clint Anderson <clinta@gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>>>> >>> >>>>> that too >>> >>>>> motor wears the screw/screw wears the motor >>> >>>>> if kent says it hasnt made a difference in 20 years i guess ill >>> assume >>> >>>>> maybe it only applies to shitty non-technics direct drives :) >>> >>>>> >>> >>>>> >>> >>>>> Clint Anderson >>> >>>>> Systems Engineer >>> >>>>> >>> >>>>>> On Mon, Apr 27, 2015 at 6:24 PM, kawayama <kawayama@gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>>>>> >>> >>>>>> I thought it was the vibrations from the motor, which could >>> conceivably >>> >>>>>> be heard through the pick-up, that was the problem with direct >>> drives? >>> >>>>>> >>> >>>>>> >>> >>>>>> -- >>> >>>>>> >>> >>>>>> constant shallowness leads to evil. >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>

On Apr 29, 2015, at 3:12 PM, kent williams <chaircrusher@gmail.com> wrote:

quoted 2 lines Another acid test are bells and chimes. Something like this might be a good reference CD i

> > Another acid test are bells and chimes. Something like this might be a good reference CD if it doesn't drive you nuts ;-) http://amzn.to/1zeuLG4 <http://amzn.to/1zeuLG4>

That's very interesting. I'd probably go for the Pantha du Prince + Bell Laboratory album over this though! - Eric Sorenson - N45.52619 W122.6792 - http://twitter.com/ahpook <http://twitter.com/ahpook> -

I have a pretty simple, perhaps misguided, setup. AKG K701's and a Schiit Vali Tube Amp, all typically connected to a laptop via the 3.5mm jack. Sounds tasty, but then again, I'm not the most informed about this schiit. Would seriously love to know what, if anything, I'm doing wrong. On Wed, Apr 29, 2015 at 6:56 PM, Eric Sorenson <eric@explosive.net> wrote:

quoted 18 lines On Apr 29, 2015, at 3:12 PM, kent williams <chaircrusher@gmail.com> wrote:

> > On Apr 29, 2015, at 3:12 PM, kent williams <chaircrusher@gmail.com> wrote: > > > Another acid test are bells and chimes. Something like this might be a > good reference CD if it doesn't drive you nuts ;-) http://amzn.to/1zeuLG4 > > > > That's very interesting. I'd probably go for the Pantha du Prince + Bell > Laboratory album over this though! > > > > > - Eric Sorenson - N45.52619 W122.6792 - http://twitter.com/ahpook - > >

no one asked but i use xmplay un4seen.com Clint Anderson Systems Engineer On Wed, Apr 29, 2015 at 12:51 PM, Dimitrij <dekantierer@googlemail.com> wrote:

quoted 156 lines for mac I never found a better player than > for mac I never found a better player than http://cogx.org/ > does not need any "library", just your music folder, light as hell, plays > flac.... fuck I love it. > > I'm listening on Cabasse Moorea 420 + AMC Amplifier or Adam A7X / Babyface > in the Studio. > > @Clint I got 3 original dynaco a25 woofers in fine condition, which I > would sell. > Just if you need them one day. > > > 2015-04-29 19:40 GMT+02:00 Claes <claal67@gmail.com>: > >> Which player do you recommend for flacs on mac and pc respectively? >> >> >> > 28 apr 2015 kl. 08:04 skrev Michael Bramwell <mbramwell@gmail.com>: >> > >> > In the lounge rooms its: >> > >> > 2 x Technics 1210 Mk 2 >> > Digital comes from a macbook pro via audio8 soundcard (flacs are >> > preferred but mp3s are fine as well) >> > >> > The above go through an Xone:92 mixer and out to some Behringer Truth >> > B2031A monitors, which unlike everything else behringer make are >> > pretty nice, at least to my ears. >> > >> > On the bus to work its just some tunes via my droid and some >> > Sennheiser CX 300-II Precision ear buds. >> > >> > My first choice is always vinyl, followed by flacs, cds never as they >> > quickly get scratched beyond use in mine and my kids hands. >> > >> > On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 9:51 AM, karl poechlauer >> > <karljpoechlauer@yahoo.com> wrote: >> >> Technics 1210 Mk 2 >> >> >> >> BEHRINGER MICROPHONO PP400 phono preamp >> >> >> >> Schiit Vali Tube Headphone Amp >> >> Sennheiser HD 380 Pro headphones >> >> or Klipsch G-17 Air Stereo speaker >> >> >> >> I put this together to be as compact as possible, I can hide the >> preamp and >> >> headphone amp underneath the turntable. And the Klipsch speaker sounds >> great >> >> for how small it is. But for vinyl I usually use the headphones. >> >> >> >> I also have an iPhone on which I listen to 320 mp3s on Nocs earbuds >> that I >> >> got from Bleep.com, while riding my bike or working. >> >> >> >> Quit CDs around 2005. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Apr 27, 2015, at 5:00 PM, Clint Anderson <clinta@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> >> >> there is another lesson here which is always use really good locks to >> lock >> >> up your stored shit >> >> >> >> >> >> Clint Anderson >> >> Systems Engineer >> >> >> >>> On Mon, Apr 27, 2015 at 6:58 PM, Clint Anderson <clinta@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >>> >> >>> i'll take your word for it, you have a good ear ;) >> >>> i had two 1400s just for my own listening but they got ripped off >> long ago >> >>> so i replaced them with the lp60 which had good reviews for a sub-$300 >> >>> turntable >> >>> audio technica also makes an lp120 which is a weird clone of the >> sl1200, >> >>> your guess as to what quality it is, it seems to cheap to be that >> great but >> >>> at the same time has solid reviews. >> >>> i just listen to one record at a time now, but i wish i had things >> like a >> >>> replacable cartridge, or adjustable weight, pitch control >> >>> at the time it didnt seem worth $100-150 >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> Clint Anderson >> >>> Systems Engineer >> >>> >> >>> On Mon, Apr 27, 2015 at 6:51 PM, kent williams < >> chaircrusher@gmail.com> >> >>> wrote: >> >>>> >> >>>> A 1210 has a fixed motor, which has 2 parts: A Brushless DC Stator is >> >>>> fixed to the base (AKA the plinth) and the Rotor is actually >> embedded in the >> >>>> platter. It works (as all electric motors do) by electromagnets >> >>>> repelling/attracting magnets to produce motion. There's some ripple >> built >> >>>> into the process because the electromagnets in the stator switch >> magnetic >> >>>> polaritys to push/pull the magnets in the rotor(platter). This can >> be >> >>>> damped by adding mass to the rotor, and the SL1200 does this, but the >> >>>> platter is relatively light so it isn't perfect. >> >>>> >> >>>> All the complaints from audiophiles like this mention 'coloration of >> >>>> treble' and collapse of their much-loved 'soundstage' -- a properly >> >>>> maintained SL1200 has very little ripple or vibration that's >> audible. In >> >>>> other words, audiophiles complain about things they may actually >> just be >> >>>> imaginating to justify spending thousands on fancier turntable. >> >>>> >> >>>> As for the bearing -- which is in the center of the platter -- I've >> never >> >>>> heard of anyone replacing them. It is a part that audiophiles do >> have fancy >> >>>> replacements for, on the theory that if it has less frictional >> resistance it >> >>>> will sound better. Dunno about that either. >> >>>> >> >>>>> On Mon, Apr 27, 2015 at 6:34 PM Clint Anderson <clinta@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >>>>> >> >>>>> that too >> >>>>> motor wears the screw/screw wears the motor >> >>>>> if kent says it hasnt made a difference in 20 years i guess ill >> assume >> >>>>> maybe it only applies to shitty non-technics direct drives :) >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> Clint Anderson >> >>>>> Systems Engineer >> >>>>> >> >>>>>> On Mon, Apr 27, 2015 at 6:24 PM, kawayama <kawayama@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> I thought it was the vibrations from the motor, which could >> conceivably >> >>>>>> be heard through the pick-up, that was the problem with direct >> drives? >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> -- >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> constant shallowness leads to evil. >> >> >> >> >> > >

My virusscanner doesn't like xmplay... Wim Vogel On Wed, Apr 29, 2015 at 11:17 PM, Clint Anderson <clinta@gmail.com> wrote:

quoted 172 lines no one asked but

> no one asked but > > i use xmplay > un4seen.com > > > Clint Anderson > Systems Engineer > > On Wed, Apr 29, 2015 at 12:51 PM, Dimitrij <dekantierer@googlemail.com> > wrote: > >> for mac I never found a better player than http://cogx.org/ >> does not need any "library", just your music folder, light as hell, plays >> flac.... fuck I love it. >> >> I'm listening on Cabasse Moorea 420 + AMC Amplifier or Adam A7X / >> Babyface in the Studio. >> >> @Clint I got 3 original dynaco a25 woofers in fine condition, which I >> would sell. >> Just if you need them one day. >> >> >> 2015-04-29 19:40 GMT+02:00 Claes <claal67@gmail.com>: >> >>> Which player do you recommend for flacs on mac and pc respectively? >>> >>> >>> > 28 apr 2015 kl. 08:04 skrev Michael Bramwell <mbramwell@gmail.com>: >>> > >>> > In the lounge rooms its: >>> > >>> > 2 x Technics 1210 Mk 2 >>> > Digital comes from a macbook pro via audio8 soundcard (flacs are >>> > preferred but mp3s are fine as well) >>> > >>> > The above go through an Xone:92 mixer and out to some Behringer Truth >>> > B2031A monitors, which unlike everything else behringer make are >>> > pretty nice, at least to my ears. >>> > >>> > On the bus to work its just some tunes via my droid and some >>> > Sennheiser CX 300-II Precision ear buds. >>> > >>> > My first choice is always vinyl, followed by flacs, cds never as they >>> > quickly get scratched beyond use in mine and my kids hands. >>> > >>> > On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 9:51 AM, karl poechlauer >>> > <karljpoechlauer@yahoo.com> wrote: >>> >> Technics 1210 Mk 2 >>> >> >>> >> BEHRINGER MICROPHONO PP400 phono preamp >>> >> >>> >> Schiit Vali Tube Headphone Amp >>> >> Sennheiser HD 380 Pro headphones >>> >> or Klipsch G-17 Air Stereo speaker >>> >> >>> >> I put this together to be as compact as possible, I can hide the >>> preamp and >>> >> headphone amp underneath the turntable. And the Klipsch speaker >>> sounds great >>> >> for how small it is. But for vinyl I usually use the headphones. >>> >> >>> >> I also have an iPhone on which I listen to 320 mp3s on Nocs earbuds >>> that I >>> >> got from Bleep.com, while riding my bike or working. >>> >> >>> >> Quit CDs around 2005. >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> On Apr 27, 2015, at 5:00 PM, Clint Anderson <clinta@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >> >>> >> there is another lesson here which is always use really good locks to >>> lock >>> >> up your stored shit >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> Clint Anderson >>> >> Systems Engineer >>> >> >>> >>> On Mon, Apr 27, 2015 at 6:58 PM, Clint Anderson <clinta@gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> i'll take your word for it, you have a good ear ;) >>> >>> i had two 1400s just for my own listening but they got ripped off >>> long ago >>> >>> so i replaced them with the lp60 which had good reviews for a >>> sub-$300 >>> >>> turntable >>> >>> audio technica also makes an lp120 which is a weird clone of the >>> sl1200, >>> >>> your guess as to what quality it is, it seems to cheap to be that >>> great but >>> >>> at the same time has solid reviews. >>> >>> i just listen to one record at a time now, but i wish i had things >>> like a >>> >>> replacable cartridge, or adjustable weight, pitch control >>> >>> at the time it didnt seem worth $100-150 >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Clint Anderson >>> >>> Systems Engineer >>> >>> >>> >>> On Mon, Apr 27, 2015 at 6:51 PM, kent williams < >>> chaircrusher@gmail.com> >>> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> >>> >>>> A 1210 has a fixed motor, which has 2 parts: A Brushless DC Stator >>> is >>> >>>> fixed to the base (AKA the plinth) and the Rotor is actually >>> embedded in the >>> >>>> platter. It works (as all electric motors do) by electromagnets >>> >>>> repelling/attracting magnets to produce motion. There's some >>> ripple built >>> >>>> into the process because the electromagnets in the stator switch >>> magnetic >>> >>>> polaritys to push/pull the magnets in the rotor(platter). This can >>> be >>> >>>> damped by adding mass to the rotor, and the SL1200 does this, but >>> the >>> >>>> platter is relatively light so it isn't perfect. >>> >>>> >>> >>>> All the complaints from audiophiles like this mention 'coloration of >>> >>>> treble' and collapse of their much-loved 'soundstage' -- a properly >>> >>>> maintained SL1200 has very little ripple or vibration that's >>> audible. In >>> >>>> other words, audiophiles complain about things they may actually >>> just be >>> >>>> imaginating to justify spending thousands on fancier turntable. >>> >>>> >>> >>>> As for the bearing -- which is in the center of the platter -- I've >>> never >>> >>>> heard of anyone replacing them. It is a part that audiophiles do >>> have fancy >>> >>>> replacements for, on the theory that if it has less frictional >>> resistance it >>> >>>> will sound better. Dunno about that either. >>> >>>> >>> >>>>> On Mon, Apr 27, 2015 at 6:34 PM Clint Anderson <clinta@gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>>>> >>> >>>>> that too >>> >>>>> motor wears the screw/screw wears the motor >>> >>>>> if kent says it hasnt made a difference in 20 years i guess ill >>> assume >>> >>>>> maybe it only applies to shitty non-technics direct drives :) >>> >>>>> >>> >>>>> >>> >>>>> Clint Anderson >>> >>>>> Systems Engineer >>> >>>>> >>> >>>>>> On Mon, Apr 27, 2015 at 6:24 PM, kawayama <kawayama@gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>>>>> >>> >>>>>> I thought it was the vibrations from the motor, which could >>> conceivably >>> >>>>>> be heard through the pick-up, that was the problem with direct >>> drives? >>> >>>>>> >>> >>>>>> >>> >>>>>> -- >>> >>>>>> >>> >>>>>> constant shallowness leads to evil. >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >> >

get a new virus scanner? On 4/30/2015 5:27 PM, Wim Vogel wrote:

quoted 196 lines My virusscanner doesn't like xmplay...

> My virusscanner doesn't like xmplay... > > > > Wim Vogel > > On Wed, Apr 29, 2015 at 11:17 PM, Clint Anderson <clinta@gmail.com > <mailto:clinta@gmail.com>> wrote: > > no one asked but > > i use xmplay > un4seen.com <http://un4seen.com> > > > Clint Anderson > Systems Engineer > > On Wed, Apr 29, 2015 at 12:51 PM, Dimitrij > <dekantierer@googlemail.com <mailto:dekantierer@googlemail.com>> wrote: > > for mac I never found a better player than http://cogx.org/ > does not need any "library", just your music folder, light as > hell, plays flac.... fuck I love it. > > I'm listening on Cabasse Moorea 420 + AMC Amplifier or Adam A7X > / Babyface in the Studio. > > @Clint I got 3 original dynaco a25 woofers in fine condition, > which I would sell. > Just if you need them one day. > > > 2015-04-29 19:40 GMT+02:00 Claes <claal67@gmail.com > <mailto:claal67@gmail.com>>: > > Which player do you recommend for flacs on mac and pc > respectively? > > > > 28 apr 2015 kl. 08:04 skrev Michael Bramwell > <mbramwell@gmail.com <mailto:mbramwell@gmail.com>>: > > > > In the lounge rooms its: > > > > 2 x Technics 1210 Mk 2 > > Digital comes from a macbook pro via audio8 soundcard > (flacs are > > preferred but mp3s are fine as well) > > > > The above go through an Xone:92 mixer and out to some > Behringer Truth > > B2031A monitors, which unlike everything else behringer > make are > > pretty nice, at least to my ears. > > > > On the bus to work its just some tunes via my droid and some > > Sennheiser CX 300-II Precision ear buds. > > > > My first choice is always vinyl, followed by flacs, cds > never as they > > quickly get scratched beyond use in mine and my kids hands. > > > > On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 9:51 AM, karl poechlauer > > <karljpoechlauer@yahoo.com > <mailto:karljpoechlauer@yahoo.com>> wrote: > >> Technics 1210 Mk 2 > >> > >> BEHRINGER MICROPHONO PP400 phono preamp > >> > >> Schiit Vali Tube Headphone Amp > >> Sennheiser HD 380 Pro headphones > >> or Klipsch G-17 Air Stereo speaker > >> > >> I put this together to be as compact as possible, I can > hide the preamp and > >> headphone amp underneath the turntable. And the Klipsch > speaker sounds great > >> for how small it is. But for vinyl I usually use the > headphones. > >> > >> I also have an iPhone on which I listen to 320 mp3s on > Nocs earbuds that I > >> got from Bleep.com, while riding my bike or working. > >> > >> Quit CDs around 2005. > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> On Apr 27, 2015, at 5:00 PM, Clint Anderson > <clinta@gmail.com <mailto:clinta@gmail.com>> wrote: > >> > >> there is another lesson here which is always use really > good locks to lock > >> up your stored shit > >> > >> > >> Clint Anderson > >> Systems Engineer > >> > >>> On Mon, Apr 27, 2015 at 6:58 PM, Clint Anderson > <clinta@gmail.com <mailto:clinta@gmail.com>> wrote: > >>> > >>> i'll take your word for it, you have a good ear ;) > >>> i had two 1400s just for my own listening but they got > ripped off long ago > >>> so i replaced them with the lp60 which had good reviews > for a sub-$300 > >>> turntable > >>> audio technica also makes an lp120 which is a weird > clone of the sl1200, > >>> your guess as to what quality it is, it seems to cheap > to be that great but > >>> at the same time has solid reviews. > >>> i just listen to one record at a time now, but i wish i > had things like a > >>> replacable cartridge, or adjustable weight, pitch control > >>> at the time it didnt seem worth $100-150 > >>> > >>> > >>> Clint Anderson > >>> Systems Engineer > >>> > >>> On Mon, Apr 27, 2015 at 6:51 PM, kent williams > <chaircrusher@gmail.com <mailto:chaircrusher@gmail.com>> > >>> wrote: > >>>> > >>>> A 1210 has a fixed motor, which has 2 parts: A > Brushless DC Stator is > >>>> fixed to the base (AKA the plinth) and the Rotor is > actually embedded in the > >>>> platter. It works (as all electric motors do) by > electromagnets > >>>> repelling/attracting magnets to produce motion. > There's some ripple built > >>>> into the process because the electromagnets in the > stator switch magnetic > >>>> polaritys to push/pull the magnets in the > rotor(platter). This can be > >>>> damped by adding mass to the rotor, and the SL1200 > does this, but the > >>>> platter is relatively light so it isn't perfect. > >>>> > >>>> All the complaints from audiophiles like this mention > 'coloration of > >>>> treble' and collapse of their much-loved 'soundstage' > -- a properly > >>>> maintained SL1200 has very little ripple or vibration > that's audible. In > >>>> other words, audiophiles complain about things they > may actually just be > >>>> imaginating to justify spending thousands on fancier > turntable. > >>>> > >>>> As for the bearing -- which is in the center of the > platter -- I've never > >>>> heard of anyone replacing them. It is a part that > audiophiles do have fancy > >>>> replacements for, on the theory that if it has less > frictional resistance it > >>>> will sound better. Dunno about that either. > >>>> > >>>>> On Mon, Apr 27, 2015 at 6:34 PM Clint Anderson > <clinta@gmail.com <mailto:clinta@gmail.com>> wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>> that too > >>>>> motor wears the screw/screw wears the motor > >>>>> if kent says it hasnt made a difference in 20 years i > guess ill assume > >>>>> maybe it only applies to shitty non-technics direct > drives :) > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> Clint Anderson > >>>>> Systems Engineer > >>>>> > >>>>>> On Mon, Apr 27, 2015 at 6:24 PM, kawayama > <kawayama@gmail.com <mailto:kawayama@gmail.com>> wrote: > >>>>>> > >>>>>> I thought it was the vibrations from the motor, > which could conceivably > >>>>>> be heard through the pick-up, that was the problem > with direct drives? > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> -- > >>>>>> > >>>>>> constant shallowness leads to evil. > >> > >> > > > >

-- Sham Beam

No, I love my virus scanner ;-) I use foobar2000 as musicplayer on Windows. Free, light, flexible with a completely customizable user-interface Wim Vogel On Thu, Apr 30, 2015 at 10:54 AM, Sham Beam <sham.beam@gmail.com> wrote:

quoted 211 lines get a new virus scanner?

> get a new virus scanner? > > > On 4/30/2015 5:27 PM, Wim Vogel wrote: > >> My virusscanner doesn't like xmplay... >> >> >> >> Wim Vogel >> >> On Wed, Apr 29, 2015 at 11:17 PM, Clint Anderson <clinta@gmail.com >> <mailto:clinta@gmail.com>> wrote: >> >> no one asked but >> >> i use xmplay >> un4seen.com <http://un4seen.com> >> >> >> Clint Anderson >> Systems Engineer >> >> On Wed, Apr 29, 2015 at 12:51 PM, Dimitrij >> <dekantierer@googlemail.com <mailto:dekantierer@googlemail.com>> >> wrote: >> >> for mac I never found a better player than http://cogx.org/ >> does not need any "library", just your music folder, light as >> hell, plays flac.... fuck I love it. >> >> I'm listening on Cabasse Moorea 420 + AMC Amplifier or Adam A7X >> / Babyface in the Studio. >> >> @Clint I got 3 original dynaco a25 woofers in fine condition, >> which I would sell. >> Just if you need them one day. >> >> >> 2015-04-29 19:40 GMT+02:00 Claes <claal67@gmail.com >> <mailto:claal67@gmail.com>>: >> >> Which player do you recommend for flacs on mac and pc >> respectively? >> >> >> > 28 apr 2015 kl. 08:04 skrev Michael Bramwell >> <mbramwell@gmail.com <mailto:mbramwell@gmail.com>>: >> > >> > In the lounge rooms its: >> > >> > 2 x Technics 1210 Mk 2 >> > Digital comes from a macbook pro via audio8 soundcard >> (flacs are >> > preferred but mp3s are fine as well) >> > >> > The above go through an Xone:92 mixer and out to some >> Behringer Truth >> > B2031A monitors, which unlike everything else behringer >> make are >> > pretty nice, at least to my ears. >> > >> > On the bus to work its just some tunes via my droid and >> some >> > Sennheiser CX 300-II Precision ear buds. >> > >> > My first choice is always vinyl, followed by flacs, cds >> never as they >> > quickly get scratched beyond use in mine and my kids hands. >> > >> > On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 9:51 AM, karl poechlauer >> > <karljpoechlauer@yahoo.com >> <mailto:karljpoechlauer@yahoo.com>> wrote: >> >> Technics 1210 Mk 2 >> >> >> >> BEHRINGER MICROPHONO PP400 phono preamp >> >> >> >> Schiit Vali Tube Headphone Amp >> >> Sennheiser HD 380 Pro headphones >> >> or Klipsch G-17 Air Stereo speaker >> >> >> >> I put this together to be as compact as possible, I can >> hide the preamp and >> >> headphone amp underneath the turntable. And the Klipsch >> speaker sounds great >> >> for how small it is. But for vinyl I usually use the >> headphones. >> >> >> >> I also have an iPhone on which I listen to 320 mp3s on >> Nocs earbuds that I >> >> got from Bleep.com, while riding my bike or working. >> >> >> >> Quit CDs around 2005. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Apr 27, 2015, at 5:00 PM, Clint Anderson >> <clinta@gmail.com <mailto:clinta@gmail.com>> wrote: >> >> >> >> there is another lesson here which is always use really >> good locks to lock >> >> up your stored shit >> >> >> >> >> >> Clint Anderson >> >> Systems Engineer >> >> >> >>> On Mon, Apr 27, 2015 at 6:58 PM, Clint Anderson >> <clinta@gmail.com <mailto:clinta@gmail.com>> wrote: >> >>> >> >>> i'll take your word for it, you have a good ear ;) >> >>> i had two 1400s just for my own listening but they got >> ripped off long ago >> >>> so i replaced them with the lp60 which had good reviews >> for a sub-$300 >> >>> turntable >> >>> audio technica also makes an lp120 which is a weird >> clone of the sl1200, >> >>> your guess as to what quality it is, it seems to cheap >> to be that great but >> >>> at the same time has solid reviews. >> >>> i just listen to one record at a time now, but i wish i >> had things like a >> >>> replacable cartridge, or adjustable weight, pitch control >> >>> at the time it didnt seem worth $100-150 >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> Clint Anderson >> >>> Systems Engineer >> >>> >> >>> On Mon, Apr 27, 2015 at 6:51 PM, kent williams >> <chaircrusher@gmail.com <mailto:chaircrusher@gmail.com>> >> >> >>> wrote: >> >>>> >> >>>> A 1210 has a fixed motor, which has 2 parts: A >> Brushless DC Stator is >> >>>> fixed to the base (AKA the plinth) and the Rotor is >> actually embedded in the >> >>>> platter. It works (as all electric motors do) by >> electromagnets >> >>>> repelling/attracting magnets to produce motion. >> There's some ripple built >> >>>> into the process because the electromagnets in the >> stator switch magnetic >> >>>> polaritys to push/pull the magnets in the >> rotor(platter). This can be >> >>>> damped by adding mass to the rotor, and the SL1200 >> does this, but the >> >>>> platter is relatively light so it isn't perfect. >> >>>> >> >>>> All the complaints from audiophiles like this mention >> 'coloration of >> >>>> treble' and collapse of their much-loved 'soundstage' >> -- a properly >> >>>> maintained SL1200 has very little ripple or vibration >> that's audible. In >> >>>> other words, audiophiles complain about things they >> may actually just be >> >>>> imaginating to justify spending thousands on fancier >> turntable. >> >>>> >> >>>> As for the bearing -- which is in the center of the >> platter -- I've never >> >>>> heard of anyone replacing them. It is a part that >> audiophiles do have fancy >> >>>> replacements for, on the theory that if it has less >> frictional resistance it >> >>>> will sound better. Dunno about that either. >> >>>> >> >>>>> On Mon, Apr 27, 2015 at 6:34 PM Clint Anderson >> <clinta@gmail.com <mailto:clinta@gmail.com>> wrote: >> >>>>> >> >>>>> that too >> >>>>> motor wears the screw/screw wears the motor >> >>>>> if kent says it hasnt made a difference in 20 years i >> guess ill assume >> >>>>> maybe it only applies to shitty non-technics direct >> drives :) >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> Clint Anderson >> >>>>> Systems Engineer >> >>>>> >> >>>>>> On Mon, Apr 27, 2015 at 6:24 PM, kawayama >> <kawayama@gmail.com <mailto:kawayama@gmail.com>> wrote: >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> I thought it was the vibrations from the motor, >> which could conceivably >> >>>>>> be heard through the pick-up, that was the problem >> with direct drives? >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> -- >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> constant shallowness leads to evil. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > -- > Sham Beam > > >

foobar is really nice too thats probably my other pick xmplay guy did some weird shit with the exe like packed it or stripped some extra stuff from the file but its not a virus or if it is its a very well written highly compatible one that never causes me issues :) Clint Anderson Systems Engineer On Thu, Apr 30, 2015 at 5:10 AM, Wim Vogel <wim.vogel@gmail.com> wrote:

quoted 227 lines No, I love my virus scanner ;-)

> No, I love my virus scanner ;-) > > I use foobar2000 as musicplayer on Windows. > Free, light, flexible with a completely customizable user-interface > > > Wim Vogel > > > > > On Thu, Apr 30, 2015 at 10:54 AM, Sham Beam <sham.beam@gmail.com> wrote: > >> get a new virus scanner? >> >> >> On 4/30/2015 5:27 PM, Wim Vogel wrote: >> >>> My virusscanner doesn't like xmplay... >>> >>> >>> >>> Wim Vogel >>> >>> On Wed, Apr 29, 2015 at 11:17 PM, Clint Anderson <clinta@gmail.com >>> <mailto:clinta@gmail.com>> wrote: >>> >>> no one asked but >>> >>> i use xmplay >>> un4seen.com <http://un4seen.com> >>> >>> >>> Clint Anderson >>> Systems Engineer >>> >>> On Wed, Apr 29, 2015 at 12:51 PM, Dimitrij >>> <dekantierer@googlemail.com <mailto:dekantierer@googlemail.com>> >>> wrote: >>> >>> for mac I never found a better player than http://cogx.org/ >>> does not need any "library", just your music folder, light as >>> hell, plays flac.... fuck I love it. >>> >>> I'm listening on Cabasse Moorea 420 + AMC Amplifier or Adam A7X >>> / Babyface in the Studio. >>> >>> @Clint I got 3 original dynaco a25 woofers in fine condition, >>> which I would sell. >>> Just if you need them one day. >>> >>> >>> 2015-04-29 19:40 GMT+02:00 Claes <claal67@gmail.com >>> <mailto:claal67@gmail.com>>: >>> >>> Which player do you recommend for flacs on mac and pc >>> respectively? >>> >>> >>> > 28 apr 2015 kl. 08:04 skrev Michael Bramwell >>> <mbramwell@gmail.com <mailto:mbramwell@gmail.com>>: >>> > >>> > In the lounge rooms its: >>> > >>> > 2 x Technics 1210 Mk 2 >>> > Digital comes from a macbook pro via audio8 soundcard >>> (flacs are >>> > preferred but mp3s are fine as well) >>> > >>> > The above go through an Xone:92 mixer and out to some >>> Behringer Truth >>> > B2031A monitors, which unlike everything else behringer >>> make are >>> > pretty nice, at least to my ears. >>> > >>> > On the bus to work its just some tunes via my droid and >>> some >>> > Sennheiser CX 300-II Precision ear buds. >>> > >>> > My first choice is always vinyl, followed by flacs, cds >>> never as they >>> > quickly get scratched beyond use in mine and my kids >>> hands. >>> > >>> > On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 9:51 AM, karl poechlauer >>> > <karljpoechlauer@yahoo.com >>> <mailto:karljpoechlauer@yahoo.com>> wrote: >>> >> Technics 1210 Mk 2 >>> >> >>> >> BEHRINGER MICROPHONO PP400 phono preamp >>> >> >>> >> Schiit Vali Tube Headphone Amp >>> >> Sennheiser HD 380 Pro headphones >>> >> or Klipsch G-17 Air Stereo speaker >>> >> >>> >> I put this together to be as compact as possible, I can >>> hide the preamp and >>> >> headphone amp underneath the turntable. And the Klipsch >>> speaker sounds great >>> >> for how small it is. But for vinyl I usually use the >>> headphones. >>> >> >>> >> I also have an iPhone on which I listen to 320 mp3s on >>> Nocs earbuds that I >>> >> got from Bleep.com, while riding my bike or working. >>> >> >>> >> Quit CDs around 2005. >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> On Apr 27, 2015, at 5:00 PM, Clint Anderson >>> <clinta@gmail.com <mailto:clinta@gmail.com>> wrote: >>> >> >>> >> there is another lesson here which is always use really >>> good locks to lock >>> >> up your stored shit >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> Clint Anderson >>> >> Systems Engineer >>> >> >>> >>> On Mon, Apr 27, 2015 at 6:58 PM, Clint Anderson >>> <clinta@gmail.com <mailto:clinta@gmail.com>> wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> i'll take your word for it, you have a good ear ;) >>> >>> i had two 1400s just for my own listening but they got >>> ripped off long ago >>> >>> so i replaced them with the lp60 which had good reviews >>> for a sub-$300 >>> >>> turntable >>> >>> audio technica also makes an lp120 which is a weird >>> clone of the sl1200, >>> >>> your guess as to what quality it is, it seems to cheap >>> to be that great but >>> >>> at the same time has solid reviews. >>> >>> i just listen to one record at a time now, but i wish i >>> had things like a >>> >>> replacable cartridge, or adjustable weight, pitch >>> control >>> >>> at the time it didnt seem worth $100-150 >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Clint Anderson >>> >>> Systems Engineer >>> >>> >>> >>> On Mon, Apr 27, 2015 at 6:51 PM, kent williams >>> <chaircrusher@gmail.com <mailto:chaircrusher@gmail.com>> >>> >>> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> >>> >>>> A 1210 has a fixed motor, which has 2 parts: A >>> Brushless DC Stator is >>> >>>> fixed to the base (AKA the plinth) and the Rotor is >>> actually embedded in the >>> >>>> platter. It works (as all electric motors do) by >>> electromagnets >>> >>>> repelling/attracting magnets to produce motion. >>> There's some ripple built >>> >>>> into the process because the electromagnets in the >>> stator switch magnetic >>> >>>> polaritys to push/pull the magnets in the >>> rotor(platter). This can be >>> >>>> damped by adding mass to the rotor, and the SL1200 >>> does this, but the >>> >>>> platter is relatively light so it isn't perfect. >>> >>>> >>> >>>> All the complaints from audiophiles like this mention >>> 'coloration of >>> >>>> treble' and collapse of their much-loved 'soundstage' >>> -- a properly >>> >>>> maintained SL1200 has very little ripple or vibration >>> that's audible. In >>> >>>> other words, audiophiles complain about things they >>> may actually just be >>> >>>> imaginating to justify spending thousands on fancier >>> turntable. >>> >>>> >>> >>>> As for the bearing -- which is in the center of the >>> platter -- I've never >>> >>>> heard of anyone replacing them. It is a part that >>> audiophiles do have fancy >>> >>>> replacements for, on the theory that if it has less >>> frictional resistance it >>> >>>> will sound better. Dunno about that either. >>> >>>> >>> >>>>> On Mon, Apr 27, 2015 at 6:34 PM Clint Anderson >>> <clinta@gmail.com <mailto:clinta@gmail.com>> wrote: >>> >>>>> >>> >>>>> that too >>> >>>>> motor wears the screw/screw wears the motor >>> >>>>> if kent says it hasnt made a difference in 20 years i >>> guess ill assume >>> >>>>> maybe it only applies to shitty non-technics direct >>> drives :) >>> >>>>> >>> >>>>> >>> >>>>> Clint Anderson >>> >>>>> Systems Engineer >>> >>>>> >>> >>>>>> On Mon, Apr 27, 2015 at 6:24 PM, kawayama >>> <kawayama@gmail.com <mailto:kawayama@gmail.com>> wrote: >>> >>>>>> >>> >>>>>> I thought it was the vibrations from the motor, >>> which could conceivably >>> >>>>>> be heard through the pick-up, that was the problem >>> with direct drives? >>> >>>>>> >>> >>>>>> >>> >>>>>> -- >>> >>>>>> >>> >>>>>> constant shallowness leads to evil. >>> >> >>> >> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> -- >> Sham Beam >> >> >> >

Can this also convert cd to flac? If not, can you recommend a program which does?

quoted 128 lines 29 apr 2015 kl. 19:51 skrev Dimitrij <dekantierer@googlemail.com>:

> 29 apr 2015 kl. 19:51 skrev Dimitrij <dekantierer@googlemail.com>: > > for mac I never found a better player than http://cogx.org/ > does not need any "library", just your music folder, light as hell, plays flac.... fuck I love it. > > I'm listening on Cabasse Moorea 420 + AMC Amplifier or Adam A7X / Babyface in the Studio. > > @Clint I got 3 original dynaco a25 woofers in fine condition, which I would sell. > Just if you need them one day. > > > 2015-04-29 19:40 GMT+02:00 Claes <claal67@gmail.com>: >> Which player do you recommend for flacs on mac and pc respectively? >> >> >> > 28 apr 2015 kl. 08:04 skrev Michael Bramwell <mbramwell@gmail.com>: >> > >> > In the lounge rooms its: >> > >> > 2 x Technics 1210 Mk 2 >> > Digital comes from a macbook pro via audio8 soundcard (flacs are >> > preferred but mp3s are fine as well) >> > >> > The above go through an Xone:92 mixer and out to some Behringer Truth >> > B2031A monitors, which unlike everything else behringer make are >> > pretty nice, at least to my ears. >> > >> > On the bus to work its just some tunes via my droid and some >> > Sennheiser CX 300-II Precision ear buds. >> > >> > My first choice is always vinyl, followed by flacs, cds never as they >> > quickly get scratched beyond use in mine and my kids hands. >> > >> > On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 9:51 AM, karl poechlauer >> > <karljpoechlauer@yahoo.com> wrote: >> >> Technics 1210 Mk 2 >> >> >> >> BEHRINGER MICROPHONO PP400 phono preamp >> >> >> >> Schiit Vali Tube Headphone Amp >> >> Sennheiser HD 380 Pro headphones >> >> or Klipsch G-17 Air Stereo speaker >> >> >> >> I put this together to be as compact as possible, I can hide the preamp and >> >> headphone amp underneath the turntable. And the Klipsch speaker sounds great >> >> for how small it is. But for vinyl I usually use the headphones. >> >> >> >> I also have an iPhone on which I listen to 320 mp3s on Nocs earbuds that I >> >> got from Bleep.com, while riding my bike or working. >> >> >> >> Quit CDs around 2005. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Apr 27, 2015, at 5:00 PM, Clint Anderson <clinta@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> >> >> there is another lesson here which is always use really good locks to lock >> >> up your stored shit >> >> >> >> >> >> Clint Anderson >> >> Systems Engineer >> >> >> >>> On Mon, Apr 27, 2015 at 6:58 PM, Clint Anderson <clinta@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> >> >>> i'll take your word for it, you have a good ear ;) >> >>> i had two 1400s just for my own listening but they got ripped off long ago >> >>> so i replaced them with the lp60 which had good reviews for a sub-$300 >> >>> turntable >> >>> audio technica also makes an lp120 which is a weird clone of the sl1200, >> >>> your guess as to what quality it is, it seems to cheap to be that great but >> >>> at the same time has solid reviews. >> >>> i just listen to one record at a time now, but i wish i had things like a >> >>> replacable cartridge, or adjustable weight, pitch control >> >>> at the time it didnt seem worth $100-150 >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> Clint Anderson >> >>> Systems Engineer >> >>> >> >>> On Mon, Apr 27, 2015 at 6:51 PM, kent williams <chaircrusher@gmail.com> >> >>> wrote: >> >>>> >> >>>> A 1210 has a fixed motor, which has 2 parts: A Brushless DC Stator is >> >>>> fixed to the base (AKA the plinth) and the Rotor is actually embedded in the >> >>>> platter. It works (as all electric motors do) by electromagnets >> >>>> repelling/attracting magnets to produce motion. There's some ripple built >> >>>> into the process because the electromagnets in the stator switch magnetic >> >>>> polaritys to push/pull the magnets in the rotor(platter). This can be >> >>>> damped by adding mass to the rotor, and the SL1200 does this, but the >> >>>> platter is relatively light so it isn't perfect. >> >>>> >> >>>> All the complaints from audiophiles like this mention 'coloration of >> >>>> treble' and collapse of their much-loved 'soundstage' -- a properly >> >>>> maintained SL1200 has very little ripple or vibration that's audible. In >> >>>> other words, audiophiles complain about things they may actually just be >> >>>> imaginating to justify spending thousands on fancier turntable. >> >>>> >> >>>> As for the bearing -- which is in the center of the platter -- I've never >> >>>> heard of anyone replacing them. It is a part that audiophiles do have fancy >> >>>> replacements for, on the theory that if it has less frictional resistance it >> >>>> will sound better. Dunno about that either. >> >>>> >> >>>>> On Mon, Apr 27, 2015 at 6:34 PM Clint Anderson <clinta@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>>>> >> >>>>> that too >> >>>>> motor wears the screw/screw wears the motor >> >>>>> if kent says it hasnt made a difference in 20 years i guess ill assume >> >>>>> maybe it only applies to shitty non-technics direct drives :) >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> Clint Anderson >> >>>>> Systems Engineer >> >>>>> >> >>>>>> On Mon, Apr 27, 2015 at 6:24 PM, kawayama <kawayama@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> I thought it was the vibrations from the motor, which could conceivably >> >>>>>> be heard through the pick-up, that was the problem with direct drives? >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> -- >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> constant shallowness leads to evil. >> >> >> >> >

Not who you're asking, but I use X Lossless decoder for Mac http://tmkk.undo.jp/xld/index_e.html and Exact Audio Copy for windows http://www.exactaudiocopy.de/ On Thu, Apr 30, 2015 at 2:38 AM, Claes <claal67@gmail.com> wrote:

quoted 162 lines Can this also convert cd to flac?

> Can this also convert cd to flac? > > If not, can you recommend a program which does? > > 29 apr 2015 kl. 19:51 skrev Dimitrij <dekantierer@googlemail.com>: > > for mac I never found a better player than http://cogx.org/ > does not need any "library", just your music folder, light as hell, plays > flac.... fuck I love it. > > I'm listening on Cabasse Moorea 420 + AMC Amplifier or Adam A7X / Babyface > in the Studio. > > @Clint I got 3 original dynaco a25 woofers in fine condition, which I > would sell. > Just if you need them one day. > > > 2015-04-29 19:40 GMT+02:00 Claes <claal67@gmail.com>: > >> Which player do you recommend for flacs on mac and pc respectively? >> >> >> > 28 apr 2015 kl. 08:04 skrev Michael Bramwell <mbramwell@gmail.com>: >> > >> > In the lounge rooms its: >> > >> > 2 x Technics 1210 Mk 2 >> > Digital comes from a macbook pro via audio8 soundcard (flacs are >> > preferred but mp3s are fine as well) >> > >> > The above go through an Xone:92 mixer and out to some Behringer Truth >> > B2031A monitors, which unlike everything else behringer make are >> > pretty nice, at least to my ears. >> > >> > On the bus to work its just some tunes via my droid and some >> > Sennheiser CX 300-II Precision ear buds. >> > >> > My first choice is always vinyl, followed by flacs, cds never as they >> > quickly get scratched beyond use in mine and my kids hands. >> > >> > On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 9:51 AM, karl poechlauer >> > <karljpoechlauer@yahoo.com> wrote: >> >> Technics 1210 Mk 2 >> >> >> >> BEHRINGER MICROPHONO PP400 phono preamp >> >> >> >> Schiit Vali Tube Headphone Amp >> >> Sennheiser HD 380 Pro headphones >> >> or Klipsch G-17 Air Stereo speaker >> >> >> >> I put this together to be as compact as possible, I can hide the >> preamp and >> >> headphone amp underneath the turntable. And the Klipsch speaker sounds >> great >> >> for how small it is. But for vinyl I usually use the headphones. >> >> >> >> I also have an iPhone on which I listen to 320 mp3s on Nocs earbuds >> that I >> >> got from Bleep.com, while riding my bike or working. >> >> >> >> Quit CDs around 2005. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Apr 27, 2015, at 5:00 PM, Clint Anderson <clinta@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> >> >> there is another lesson here which is always use really good locks to >> lock >> >> up your stored shit >> >> >> >> >> >> Clint Anderson >> >> Systems Engineer >> >> >> >>> On Mon, Apr 27, 2015 at 6:58 PM, Clint Anderson <clinta@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >>> >> >>> i'll take your word for it, you have a good ear ;) >> >>> i had two 1400s just for my own listening but they got ripped off >> long ago >> >>> so i replaced them with the lp60 which had good reviews for a sub-$300 >> >>> turntable >> >>> audio technica also makes an lp120 which is a weird clone of the >> sl1200, >> >>> your guess as to what quality it is, it seems to cheap to be that >> great but >> >>> at the same time has solid reviews. >> >>> i just listen to one record at a time now, but i wish i had things >> like a >> >>> replacable cartridge, or adjustable weight, pitch control >> >>> at the time it didnt seem worth $100-150 >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> Clint Anderson >> >>> Systems Engineer >> >>> >> >>> On Mon, Apr 27, 2015 at 6:51 PM, kent williams < >> chaircrusher@gmail.com> >> >>> wrote: >> >>>> >> >>>> A 1210 has a fixed motor, which has 2 parts: A Brushless DC Stator is >> >>>> fixed to the base (AKA the plinth) and the Rotor is actually >> embedded in the >> >>>> platter. It works (as all electric motors do) by electromagnets >> >>>> repelling/attracting magnets to produce motion. There's some ripple >> built >> >>>> into the process because the electromagnets in the stator switch >> magnetic >> >>>> polaritys to push/pull the magnets in the rotor(platter). This can >> be >> >>>> damped by adding mass to the rotor, and the SL1200 does this, but the >> >>>> platter is relatively light so it isn't perfect. >> >>>> >> >>>> All the complaints from audiophiles like this mention 'coloration of >> >>>> treble' and collapse of their much-loved 'soundstage' -- a properly >> >>>> maintained SL1200 has very little ripple or vibration that's >> audible. In >> >>>> other words, audiophiles complain about things they may actually >> just be >> >>>> imaginating to justify spending thousands on fancier turntable. >> >>>> >> >>>> As for the bearing -- which is in the center of the platter -- I've >> never >> >>>> heard of anyone replacing them. It is a part that audiophiles do >> have fancy >> >>>> replacements for, on the theory that if it has less frictional >> resistance it >> >>>> will sound better. Dunno about that either. >> >>>> >> >>>>> On Mon, Apr 27, 2015 at 6:34 PM Clint Anderson <clinta@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >>>>> >> >>>>> that too >> >>>>> motor wears the screw/screw wears the motor >> >>>>> if kent says it hasnt made a difference in 20 years i guess ill >> assume >> >>>>> maybe it only applies to shitty non-technics direct drives :) >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> Clint Anderson >> >>>>> Systems Engineer >> >>>>> >> >>>>>> On Mon, Apr 27, 2015 at 6:24 PM, kawayama <kawayama@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> I thought it was the vibrations from the motor, which could >> conceivably >> >>>>>> be heard through the pick-up, that was the problem with direct >> drives? >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> -- >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> constant shallowness leads to evil. >> >> >> >> >> > >

CD == FLAC. I barely ever play directly from CDs any more. A ripped CD arguably will sound better than playing the CD itself, because you don't have to do the real time interpolation due to scratches & such. Vinyl always sounds good to me but I grew up with it. That platter rumble is like a reassuring subsonic cat purr, and the clicks and pops just remind you that actual things vibrated to make the sound that hits your ears. And I mostly buy 12" EPs which are cut to a wider pitch than LPs; they are louder, with better dynamic range and sturdier grooves to withstand needle damage. On Mon, Apr 27, 2015 at 12:00 PM Claes Algström <claal67@gmail.com> wrote:

quoted 33 lines I prefer cd. Have Nad amplifier and cd and Boston speakers. But they are

> I prefer cd. Have Nad amplifier and cd and Boston speakers. But they are > getting old. I thinking of buying Marantz 6005. > > I don't like scratchy vinyls, but I like album art. > > I also have a Nad 5.1 surround for FAX DTS cds, streaming and television. > > > > On Mon, Apr 27, 2015 at 6:33 PM, kent williams <chaircrusher@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> What is your favorite listening system for music? >> >> Currently my living room setup is a Sony Home Theater Amp and Cerwin Vega >> RE25 speakers -- both purchased at the Goodwill. I just had to replace the >> foam surrounds on the RE25s, but they have 10" woofers and can shake knick >> knacks off the mantle. >> >> At work I have a Bravo Audio V2 Tube Headphone amp, Syba Sonic SD USB >> DAC, and Audio Technica M50 headphones. >> >> I have another DAC coming from China to test out. >> >> I've been gravitating toward buying and playing more lossless files, even >> though I'm not sure I can hear the difference. I accidentally bought the >> Bjork "Vulnicura" album at 24 bit/96khz resolution, and it sounds great >> played at full resolution, but I'm not sure I could tell it from >> 16bit/44.1khz in a double-blind test. For that matter, I've listened to >> 320kbs MP3s of this album and they sound great too. >> > >

Resending to list -- apparently all the quotes of previous messages put the message over 30k and it bounced. OK, loads of questions. 1. I use VLC, which can play any format worth playing, and do things like play 24bit/96khz WAV files at their native resolution. 2. Converting CD to FLAC -- http://www.exactaudiocopy.de/ In general I rip with ITunes to Apple Lossless format. VLC can also play Apple Lossless. 3. @Connor, the Schitt brand is highly regarded. I'd consider a USB audio interface, as laptop audio can be noisy. You could stay with Schitt http://schiit.com/products/modi-2 or consider other options. I recommend the Native Instruments audio interfaces -- great sound, incredible build quality. The NI Traktor Audio 2 has 2 pairs of outputs, making it useful for DJing. http://amzn.to/1I0L0tD Like the Schiit Modi-2 it's $99.