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1999-07-29 23:00ChairCrusher (idm) REVIEW: Muziq "Royal Astronomy"
└─ 1999-07-30 13:12r. kidwell Re: (idm) REVIEW: Muziq "Royal Astronomy"
├─ 1999-07-30 14:29Howard Shih Re: (idm) REVIEW: Muziq "Royal Astronomy"
└─ 1999-07-30 17:20ChairCrusher Re: (idm) REVIEW: Muziq "Royal Astronomy"
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1999-07-30 19:16Dave Segal Re: (idm) REVIEW: Muziq "Royal Astronomy"
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1999-07-29 23:00ChairCrusherMuziq "Royal Astronomy" (Astralwerks ASW 6275-2) Well enough about Christina Ricci. Mike P
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Muziq "Royal Astronomy" (Astralwerks ASW 6275-2) Well enough about Christina Ricci. Mike Paradinas is one of 3 or 4 artists that really have defined for me what IDM is -- music informed and influenced by the global dance culture, but targeted towards more reflective listening. Since his first two records (Tango N Vectif and Bluff Limbo) were real masterpieces and classics of the form, he's always had to battle to live up to those records. Well in my opinion, "Royal Astronomy" is the first album mu-Ziq has done that is as consistently as high in quality as the first two records. We all know that MP always brings his sense of humor and skill at bedroom beatslicing to the table. But "Royal Astronomy" exhibits new depth in his songwriting skills. Each track is harmonically lush in the classic mu-Ziq style. The first track 'scaling' segues without break into 'the hwicci song' and represent a soundtrack aesthetic -- lush string sounds in 'scaling' and a puckishness reminiscent of Danny Elfman in 'hwicci.' 'autumn acid' brings on the beats along with a guitarish synth sound, and what sounds like Mike himself on 'ooh ah' vocals. What makes the track for me is the variation introduced by MP's live playing on top of the sequenced tracks. 'slice' returns to a neo-classical feel down to the timpani accents and glockenspiel hits. Formally it is almost identical to to 'hwicci' -- presentation of a theme, build up, add in filter-distorto drums. Then let the lovely melody ride. 'carpet muncher' melds the jazziness of a jake slazenger track with drill-and-bass rhythmic collagework. And for the loop-spotters, it opens with a bit of the 'think' break, and the amen break working most of the track. What makes the track worthwhile is the way that the break programming supports and propells the melodic material. 'the motorbike track' is the first track that might actually get played in a dance context due to it's use of the basic 2 step rhythm, but it keeps things nicely varied throughout, something you don't hear too much in contemporary drum and bass. And it builds and builds, like a good dance floor track should, and when the amen break comes in full on (about 3:10) I can imagine people yelling on the dancefloor. 'mentim' is another soundtracky cut -- more portentious than previous tracks. Without any beats, you can really hear him distort nearly everything in the mix. This isn't really to my taste -- there is 'good' distortion -- running sounds through big muffs and the like, and bad distortion, where you're overloading mixer inputs. This track is marred by the latter. I assume he's doing it on purpose, but as a producer I just want to redo his gain-staging for him to clean it up. 'the fear' (also out on a 4 track EP of it's own) has lovely vocal samples over another neo-classical strings-n-drums workout. It's a decent track, but doesn't stand out the way 'carpet muncher' or 'autum acid' do. I suspect it came out as a single because the vocal makes it a little more MTV- and Radio friendly. 'gruber's mandolin' is a return to Elfman soundtrack territory. 'world of leather' is a standout for both the dr. dre portamento synth lead, and the bluff-limbo-esque echoey stuff in the backround. 'scrape' matches a looped sforzando string ensemble agains layers of mu-ziq noodling. It's only 1:42 long and so is more a transitional track, but lovely nonetheless. '56' changes tone, starting with a mancini lonely trumpet sound. More than any other track here it recalls label-mate aphex twin's more lyrical output -- think 'Alberto Balsam' here. It's also a showcase for MP's tendency to play different synth sounds slightly out of tune from each other to increase harmonic tension. 'burst your arm' comes at you with the hard 2 step beat and wah wah guitar, making it the second junglist-friendly track on the record. I don't know which filter-box MP bought with his Virgin cash, but the thing is wicked. 'goodbye,goodbye' is just simply lovely. The female voice returns from 'the fear' and the twists and turns the piece takes puts it way ahead of the run of the mill 'work-one-loop' electronica. Again for me the track is marred somewhat by distortion in the wrong places, but hey, it's mike's world -- we just live in it. kent williams -- kent@avalon.net
1999-07-30 13:12r. kidwell> Muziq "Royal Astronomy" (Astralwerks ASW 6275-2) did anyone else get serious Fat Boy Sli
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quoted 1 line Muziq "Royal Astronomy" (Astralwerks ASW 6275-2)> Muziq "Royal Astronomy" (Astralwerks ASW 6275-2)
did anyone else get serious Fat Boy Slim vibes from this one? I did. i mean, what the fuck is with that "Knock that shit off, that's some serious greedy fake boooolsheeeittt" sample that repeats ad nauseum? or the obnoxious "keep on fakin' the funk" sample? aahgh... my beef with this album is that the drum programming doesn't seem to have evolved at all.. he's using the exact same breaks. think and amen appear in like 2/3s of the songs... and they're cut up a little, but not dsp'd or anything, just raw. give me a break. (ahaha, get it?) and the programming itself isn't -- to my ears -- anything different than Lunatic Harness... the same cut-up amen with the spazz, stop, fade in the ride, spazz again tricks. it sounds like he's pulled the reins on the drill & bass fuckery a little, but there's no neat or untraditional percussion sounds or anything. agh. maybe i'm expecting the wrong thing from u-ziq, but i thought the album was a largely disappointing retread. ,rj../ ___,">www.gl.umbc.edu/~nworth1
1999-07-30 14:29Howard ShihOn Fri, 30 Jul 1999, r. kidwell wrote: > > Muziq "Royal Astronomy" (Astralwerks ASW 6275-2
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On Fri, 30 Jul 1999, r. kidwell wrote:
quoted 9 lines Muziq "Royal Astronomy" (Astralwerks ASW 6275-2)> > Muziq "Royal Astronomy" (Astralwerks ASW 6275-2) > > did anyone else get serious Fat Boy Slim > vibes from this one? I did. > i mean, what the fuck is with that "Knock > that shit off, that's some serious greedy fake > boooolsheeeittt" sample that repeats ad nauseum? > or the obnoxious "keep on fakin' the funk" sample? > aahgh...
I always got the impression that the sample was supposed to a comment on the whole 2 step drum & bass thing that mike sort of uses on that track-- except that he throws in a bunch of breaks to make things interesting. Just a thought... Howie
1999-07-30 17:20ChairCrusherOn Fri, 30 Jul 1999, r. kidwell wrote: > > Muziq "Royal Astronomy" (Astralwerks ASW 6275-2
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On Fri, 30 Jul 1999, r. kidwell wrote:
quoted 4 lines Muziq "Royal Astronomy" (Astralwerks ASW 6275-2)> > Muziq "Royal Astronomy" (Astralwerks ASW 6275-2) > > did anyone else get serious Fat Boy Slim > vibes from this one? I did.
I can't hear ANYTHING in common with Fat Boy Slim. Fat Boy Slim is ALL sampled (or mostly, with the odd bassline played in). The Muziq is about 90% played/sequenced, by someone who can actually play.
quoted 3 lines i mean, what the fuck is with that "Knock> i mean, what the fuck is with that "Knock > that shit off, that's some serious greedy fake > boooolsheeeittt" sample that repeats ad nauseum?
That's Guru from Gang Starr. It's a tribute by way of quotation, and I like the way he mixes it into the sequence. Your mileage may vary.
quoted 5 lines my beef with this album is that the drum programming> my beef with this album is that the drum programming > doesn't seem to have evolved at all.. he's using the > exact same breaks. think and amen appear in like 2/3s > of the songs... and they're cut up a little, but not > dsp'd or anything, just raw. give me a break.
I think that the drum programming is really quite nice, and I listen very closely to a lot of drum programming. The Motorbike track is one I'd love to have on vinyl to add to a drum and bass set. But it's all beside the point with Muziq. What makes his music is the way he actually writes songs, rather than just working loops. He has never been about extensive sound design -- Royal Astronomy features some of the same sounds that he used on Tango N Vectif -- the D50 vibes and pads stand out. If I have to complain about anything on this record is that he could have used better string samples, and lay off the distortion. And you can diss people for using Amen and Think but I regard the 'classic' breaks as being like the Mandelbrot set -- no matter how deep you dive in, there's always new stuff to do. I've spent hundreds of hours over the past several years on drum programming, and from a technical standpoint it is very difficult to really come up with something new, and still come up with rhythms that are accessible to listeners. There are certain local optima in terms of booty shaking that are hard to get away from without losing listeners. But for me, the best Muziq tracks work because they're, well, musical. If you can't appreciate what he's doing holistically, go buy some phoenicia or rich devine. Not that I don't love what they're doing, but their tracks by and large have no emotional handle for users to listen to. The Rich Devine tracks on the Ischemic compilation are all original sound designs, and fiendishly complex, original drum programming. But if you drop it into a set of any kind of music, you'll empty the dancefloor faster than a neutron bomb.
1999-07-30 18:22r. kidwell> But for me, the best Muziq tracks work because they're, well, > musical. If you can't ap
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quoted 9 lines But for me, the best Muziq tracks work because they're, well,> But for me, the best Muziq tracks work because they're, well, > musical. If you can't appreciate what he's doing holistically, > go buy some phoenicia or rich devine. Not that I don't love > what they're doing, but their tracks by and large have no > emotional handle for users to listen to. The Rich Devine > tracks on the Ischemic compilation are all original sound designs, > and fiendishly complex, original drum programming. But if > you drop it into a set of any kind of music, you'll empty > the dancefloor faster than a neutron bomb.
ahg man, we're locking horns again, eh? ahah.. anyway, i agree with you that there isn't a whole lot of accessible emotion in Richie Devine's stuff, or any of the schematic or chocolate industries catalogs for that matter. but i guess that's what there all about... however, there are artists that are doing music in a somewhat similar vein that DO have a lot of emotion. i think the best thing about lexaunculpt's stuff is that it gets very emotional at points. and there's emotion all over the MAS catalog. Wardhax by Michael Fakesch + the B1 track of the Swap EP are two of my favorites.. my own tracks are a sort of fusion of the mutilated mechanical sample beat programming and very emotional (and musical) melodies. i realize you probably weren't saying there's NO emotion in this strain of IDM, but i just wanted to bring up some examples to say that it doesn't have to be a trade off. and as far as Think and Amen go... once again i'm gonna have to reference Hrvatski and RKK as an example of breathing real life into classic breaks... ,rj../k
1999-07-30 19:16Dave Segal>I think that the drum programming is really quite nice, >and I listen very closely to a l
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quoted 4 lines I think that the drum programming is really quite nice,>I think that the drum programming is really quite nice, >and I listen very closely to a lot of drum programming. >The Motorbike track is one I'd love to have on vinyl to >add to a drum and bass set.
You *can* find this track on vinyl. MP released it on a 12 under his Tusken Raiders name. Dave Segal Managing Editor/Alternative Press Reviews/BPM/Reissue Redux/Origins Of Cool Secret Ions on WCSB Thursdays 9-11PM EST www.wcsb.org np: repeat- temporary contemporary [for 4 ears]
1999-07-31 07:24Peter Hollo> The Motorbike track is one I'd love to have on vinyl to add to a drum > and bass set. It
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quoted 2 lines The Motorbike track is one I'd love to have on vinyl to add to a drum> The Motorbike track is one I'd love to have on vinyl to add to a drum > and bass set.
It _is_ actually on vinyl - on the second recent Tusken Raiders 12" on Planet Mu... The Other Track (sic - the B Side) is very good too, and the whole Bantha Trax Vol 2 12" is fantastic - most appropriate for drum'n'bass sets too. And I'd recommend the Kid Spatula track on the recent Kid Spatula/Jega split 12". I haven't heard the whole Royal Astronomy yet - it won't get released in Australia at all (grrrrr!) and won't arrive in the import stores till next week sometime - but I picked up a copy of the Advance Promo 4-track thingy a couple of months back when I was in England. The Fear irritates the hell out of me. I think the vocal is incredibly grating, and his insistence on not quantising the synth lines is cute and would be fine if they weren't quite so badly played (on this track only really). On the other hand I think the Hwicci Song (what a great name!) is fantastic. Also, Carpet Muncher (which I have on an Astralwerks free compilation I picked up in New York a few weeks back - I've been travelling the world *grin*) is superb. Really funky, great drill'n'bass programming (not nonsensical, but actually adding a lot to the "funkiness"). I would say, from what I've heard of the album, that I'm going to love the album (Lunatic Harness is one of my fave Mike P albums, along than Mu-ziq vs the Auteurs, and about 2/3 of Bluff Limbo). But nevertheless, I'd say the three recent Planet Mu 12"s I mentioned above are better stuff, to me at least. No cheesiness, which grates with me after a while, but still those great melodies and harmonies, and some excellent really hard drum programming. There you go. My potted current Mike P commentary ;) Peter. -- Peter Hollo raven@fourplay.com.au http://www.fourplay.com.au/me.html FourPlay - Eclectic Electric String Quartet http://www.fourplay.com.au Raven: experimental electronic http://www.fourplay.com.au/sound.html "Of course, dance music can be a music where you lie on your back and your brain cells dance" -Michael Karoli of Can, quoted in Wire mag.