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1999-07-12 19:18Jeff Waye/Ninja Tune Re: (idm) Montreal jazz festival - kid koala & atrak
└─ 1999-07-20 14:58R. Lim (idm) Re: Montreal jazz festival - art ensemble
1999-07-20 17:06Jeff Waye/Ninja Tune Re: (idm) Re: Montreal jazz festival - art ensemble
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1999-07-12 19:18Jeff Waye/Ninja TuneHey Yo's Yeah, Koala rocked it in a short set stylee. The Coldcut tune was 'Panopticon', A
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Hey Yo's Yeah, Koala rocked it in a short set stylee. The Coldcut tune was 'Panopticon', Amon track was 'Sordid' (for anyone at the Amon gig the previous Sunday, the first 40 minutes was all dub plates of stuff of his next record), the trumpet bit solo is called 'Drunken Trumpet' and will be on his record. Innerzone reaction was pretty extreme here. People either loved or hated (which is usually a good thing anyway). I thought it suffered from some sound problems, in that I think I enjoyed it more than most as I've heard the record and could tell what funky bits that were there but buried in the mix. Anyway, it was definitly a good step away from the usual tourist crap they book for the main event. Plus it was wicked seeing A-Trak, Koala, and Innerzone infront of 100 000 people. Oh ya, buy the Innerzone record. It's really excellent, don't expect Paperclip People hits or anything, expect some really good downbeat jazz...and an excellent take (intentional or not) on the old latin tune 'Jingo' (was that Eddie Palmieri?...the one Santana made popular...) When all was said and done though the award for best show of the festival has to go to Art Ensemble of Chicago. I went expecting a group of old guys who couldn't live up to my expectations, and instead got more scronk then even I had bargained for. Not a hint of melody for almost the first hour (...a good thing by the way), lots of full on horn blowing, Cecil Taylor style piano smacking, some good face paint, lots of 'serious jazz' people leaving (again, a sure sign of quality). Fucking awesome Take Care Jeff
quoted 31 lines hello. Just wanted to drop a line that anyone who was at the montreal jazz>hello. Just wanted to drop a line that anyone who was at the montreal jazz >festival tuesday night should have witnessed an awesome show. it was the >pre-Carl Craig show (he was playing nxt, or rather once he started i couldn't >really figure out what he was doing.. it was he and the "Innerzone >Orchestra", and i think he was the guy ranting over the music about the >future of techno and stuff. anyway for 2 tracks it was rough organny jazzy >breakbeaty fast stuff and then a bunch of african guys came out and did >tribal dance sort of things with cowbells. isn't he supposed to be a detroit >techno guy?) Anyway, A-trak (spelling?) came on first and did some amazing >beat juggling and all sorts of those famous turntable tricks. really >impressive. i'm sure someone will tell me he sucked but this is the first >time i've ever seen a DJ like him do this sort of thing so Peace! my friends >and i almost completely forgot about A-trak, however, after Kid Koala's >performance, until we listened to the minidisc we recorded during the show. >Kid K's was a more musical set, starting with that Coldcut track, don't >remember the title, and doing scratchy bits over it. He would play along >with it by picking up the needle and placing it on another groove of the >record, over and over, adjusting the pitch to create melody! Then there was >the heaviest/beatiest of the Amon Tobin tracks with really amazing >scratching. finally a real jazzy number was backing him, it was sort of a >swing, and he scratched a trumpet along to it. he was practically playing the >trumpet, changing the notes played with different speed scratch strokes, >except he could reverse it too =). we were pretty much blown away. one of >the coolest shows i've ever seen, and groovy. some of them canadians are >weird tho -- hardly anyone was groovin their body to the musics, most of >which were just droolin with funky chunks. we'll try and get up an MP3 of >those two DJ sets sometime. > >bye >krzysztof graves >===
1999-07-20 14:58R. LimOn Mon, 12 Jul 1999, Jeff Waye/Ninja Tune wrote: > When all was said and done though the a
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(idm) Re: Montreal jazz festival - art ensemble
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On Mon, 12 Jul 1999, Jeff Waye/Ninja Tune wrote:
quoted 7 lines When all was said and done though the award for best show of the festival> When all was said and done though the award for best show of the festival > has to go to Art Ensemble of Chicago. I went expecting a group of old > guys who couldn't live up to my expectations, and instead got more scronk > then even I had bargained for. Not a hint of melody for almost the first > hour (...a good thing by the way), lots of full on horn blowing, Cecil > Taylor style piano smacking, some good face paint, lots of 'serious jazz' > people leaving (again, a sure sign of quality). Fucking awesome
Who was the pianist? The Art Ensemble have never included a proper one in their ranks (though both Cecil and Muhal Abrams have joined them for a session here and there). I heard that cofounder Lester Bowie was hospitalized (anyone know why?), so that might open up the possibility of a temporary replacement.. was it Ari Brown (also plays tenor and electronic keyboard)? Anyhoo, the individual talents of the Art Ensemble are still pretty considerable (I'll give the hefty benefit of the doubt to Bowie, who hasn't recorded anything that I've liked since the Art Ensemble started making bad records in the very early 80s), but live they seem more like a repertory band than an actual functioning unit. Any chance you get to check out Roscoe Mitchell in any setting, definitely do it. He's one of the greats and his edge is as sharp as ever. Favors was also ill for a while (heart problems) and these guys ain't getting any younger... -rob
1999-07-20 17:06Jeff Waye/Ninja TuneI'm not sure who the piano player was. It was a fill-in for Lester Bowie who apparently go
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I'm not sure who the piano player was. It was a fill-in for Lester Bowie who apparently got sick at the last minute. Whoever it was alternated between horn playing and piano. As I said, with the piano playing being in the vein of Cecil Taylor (ie. jamming elbows into opposite ends of keys, sliding forearm across, etc...). The comment on the 80's is well founded, and is exactly why I didn't think the show would be any good. To many 'legends' are way past their prime when you see them at modern day jazz fests (although Pharoah Sanders and Cecil Taylor last year were just as fresh as their glory days). Always glad to have the seniors prove me wrong. If anyone knows who the mysterious '4th' Art Ensemble member was... Take Care Jeff
quoted 18 lines Who was the pianist? The Art Ensemble have never included a proper one in>Who was the pianist? The Art Ensemble have never included a proper one in >their ranks (though both Cecil and Muhal Abrams have joined them for a >session here and there). I heard that cofounder Lester Bowie was >hospitalized (anyone know why?), so that might open up the possibility of >a temporary replacement.. was it Ari Brown (also plays tenor and >electronic keyboard)? > >Anyhoo, the individual talents of the Art Ensemble are still pretty >considerable (I'll give the hefty benefit of the doubt to Bowie, who >hasn't recorded anything that I've liked since the Art Ensemble started >making bad records in the very early 80s), but live they seem more like a >repertory band than an actual functioning unit. Any chance you get >to check out Roscoe Mitchell in any setting, definitely do it. He's one >of the greats and his edge is as sharp as ever. Favors was also ill for a >while (heart problems) and these guys ain't getting any younger... > > -rob >