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2000-03-29 15:22Gil (idm) spinning IDM
2000-03-29 16:26Ignatius J. Reilly Re: (idm) spinning IDM
2000-03-30 18:39richard baker Re: (idm) spinning IDM
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2000-03-29 15:22GilWell I think it's time to finally put together an IDMish mix. Sure, spinning straight tech
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Wed, 29 Mar 2000 10:22:01 -0500 (EST)
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(idm) spinning IDM
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Well I think it's time to finally put together an IDMish mix. Sure, spinning straight techno and house is way more physical, immediatly fulfilling, and a great way to get some agression out after work, but I can do that whenever. How do you guys go about putting together an IDM mix? Do you try and get enough similarly BPM'd tracks together so that it resembles a standard beat-driven mix, or is everything about smooth segues? I'd also like to put the mix together in protools since I can take plenty of time to arrange the mix, and add plenty of effects as necessary. -Gil --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2000-03-29 16:26Ignatius J. ReillyWith fanfare of trumpets (or a particularly brassy sh101 patch) Sir Gil proclaimed: :Well
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Ignatius J. Reilly
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Wed, 29 Mar 2000 08:26:25 -0800 (PST)
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With fanfare of trumpets (or a particularly brassy sh101 patch) Sir Gil proclaimed: :Well I think it's time to finally put together an IDMish mix. Sure, :spinning straight techno and house is way more physical, immediatly :fulfilling, and a great way to get some agression out after work, but I :can do that whenever. There's a lot of crossover with those styles for me. I guess by "straight techno & house" you're referring to the more typical 4-on-the-floor dj-friendly varieties.. With my collection I'd have a hard time determining where one stops and another begins. For example, what is Carl Craig's "My Machines" considered? I'm not trying to split hairs or be difficult, but ever since this "tech-house" genre popped up I don't know what the hell I spin anymore.. "Minimal House" being my new answer to that question (thanks, Satellite!). Hopefully soon enough I can just hand over a tape; I prefer to let the listener classify it themselves.. :How do you guys go about putting together an IDM mix? Do you try and get :enough similarly BPM'd tracks together so that it resembles a standard :beat-driven mix, or is everything about smooth segues? I think it's essentially like mixing anything else, only more so. The beats and melodies are more complex usually.. I mean, that's what this IDM stuff's about, right? So yeah, beatmatching for sure.. Keeping in mind that it's a *pitch* control, and that means matching *key* as well as tempo.. Something a lot of DJ's seem to overlook.. I think it's always a matter of selection; knowing your records and programming them in a unique and interesting progression.. This is even more important with IDM because I find that I let things play longer.. The difference between "songs" and dj-oriented "tracks" becomes apparent.. (though I think there's room for both, and a tight locked groove can crush the most intricate MIDI excursion).. The goal, simply put; a smooth mix. It can certainly jump BPM's & styles if done properly.. My goal is to set a mood and tell a story.. Making people dance has always been secondary.. Which I guess is why I get no gigs. ;p :I'd also like to put the mix together in protools since I can take plenty :of time to arrange the mix, and add plenty of effects as necessary. Blasphemer!! Heretic!! ;p I was referring to the traditional {n(turntable)/mixer} approach.. If you're assembling it digitally can't you just timestretch everything to fit? Seriously though.. I don't see anything wrong with compiling a mix in some kind of sound software, so long as you make no claims to the contrary (ahem.) ;] I've never done this so you're on your own here.. Talk to Keoki, maybe. <heh!> -Ted ===== oo00oOo0Oooo00oOo0ooOoOo0O0oO0o0oO000o0oOoOOoo0o00oOooOooOo \/ ignatius@lucidmultimedia.com - te_one@yahoo.com oo http://www.lucidmultimedia.com/~ignatius/ >||||< "I'm glad there weren't any major hassles like UU riots and such stuff. Is that common in the US?" ___/===\_____/----------\_______/||||||||\__________/=\__/== __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2000-03-30 18:39richard baker> Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2000 08:26:25 -0800 (PST) > To: my brain is bigger than yours > <idm@h
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Thu, 30 Mar 2000 10:39:43 -0800 (PST)
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quoted 24 lines Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2000 08:26:25 -0800 (PST)> Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2000 08:26:25 -0800 (PST) > To: my brain is bigger than yours > <idm@hyperreal.org> > From: "Ignatius J. Reilly" <te_one@yahoo.com> > Subject: Re: (idm) spinning IDM > Message-ID: > <20000329162626.24326.qmail@web216.mail.yahoo.com> > > > There's a lot of crossover with those styles for > me. I guess by "straight techno & house" you're > referring to the more typical 4-on-the-floor > dj-friendly varieties.. With my collection I'd have > a > hard time determining where one stops and another > begins. For example, what is Carl Craig's "My > Machines" considered? I'm not trying to split hairs > or be difficult, but ever since this > "tech-house" genre popped up I don't know what the > hell I spin anymore.. "Minimal House" being my > new answer to that question (thanks, Satellite!). > Hopefully soon enough I can just hand over a > tape; I prefer to let the listener classify it > themselves..
Yeah I've heard ambient house for some downtempo material but I don't know if that's just a term that's been suggested. My big problem has been deciding what description Wolfgang Voight fall under. Konigsforst sure sounds like Ambient House to me. Some related stuff like Krisel 33/99 is at a downtempo house speed but without a pronounced beat. And I just picked up an absolutely beautiful Profan record which is more home listening house I guess. Subtle experiments with sounds and rhythms, highly recomended but I'm not quite sure it qualifys as IDM. Rich __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org