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1998-07-31 03:57Rjyan C Kidwell> The conceptual evolution of Autechre from examining the artists' internal > relationship

From:: Rjyan C Kidwell <cardhore@juno.com>
To:: <idm@hyperreal.org>
Date:: Thu, 30 Jul 1998 23:57:55 -0400
Subject:: (idm) re: alex's dissertation on autechre, take one.

quoted 1 line The conceptual evolution of Autechre from examining the artists'

> The conceptual evolution of Autechre from examining the artists'

internal

quoted 6 lines relationship to the minimally-expressed systems and machines around

> relationship to the minimally-expressed systems and machines around > Booth/Brown and their affiliation with this framework: this is the > territory charted by _Untitled_. > > Alex Reynolds > July 30, 1998

Great job, but you got some points taken off for the "overly sterile to the point of sounding like satire of elitists who over intellectualize a bunch of queer noises" mood you've given this piece. you need to work on "humanizing" your work so that the dumb kids don't giggle or get angry at you. you get a B+, though, mostly based on effort. Next week's assignment: a 3 page essay on one of the following topics: (1) How does the music of Aphex Twin figuratively represent the dillemma of the monkey's choice of the cloth mother and the wire mother?, (2) Compare/Contrast the need for an "Andy + Ed vs. Ken" debate (as shown by that thread's continued spawning on this list) with the need for a "Owen Heart vs. Jason Sensation" debate (as shown by the continued purposeless appearances of Jason Sensation on WWF Raw is War) or (3) Why has it taken the musicians and fans of IDM to publicly state that mullets are just ridiculous? rjck,phd. _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]

1998-07-31 06:00eric hill[Rjyan C Kidwell] > > The conceptual evolution of Autechre from examining the artists' > i

From:: eric hill <ehill@best.com>
To:: Rjyan C Kidwell <cardhore@juno.com>
Date:: Thu, 30 Jul 1998 23:00:30 -0700 (PDT)
Subject:: Re: (idm) re: alex's dissertation on autechre, take one.
Reply to:: (idm) re: alex's dissertation on autechre, take one.

[Rjyan C Kidwell]

quoted 11 lines The conceptual evolution of Autechre from examining the artists'

> > The conceptual evolution of Autechre from examining the artists' > internal > > relationship to the minimally-expressed systems and machines around > > Booth/Brown and their affiliation with this framework: this is the > > territory charted by _Untitled_. > > > > Alex Reynolds > > July 30, 1998 > > Great job, but you got some points taken off for the "overly sterile to > the point of sounding like satire of elitists who over intellectualize a

what's wrong with being elite? the sterility part's a no-brainer though. since autechre has that down in spades, it makes sense that their music would be described in that manner.

quoted 3 lines (3) Why has it taken

> (3) Why has it taken > the musicians and fans of IDM to publicly state that mullets are just > ridiculous?

so long, eric onnow: sokol:mean clown welcome(cheap)

1998-07-31 14:53zimbo> Next week's assignment: a 3 page essay on one of the following topics: > (1) How does th

From:: zimbo <tofu@uci.edu>
To:: Rjyan C Kidwell <cardhore@juno.com>
Cc:: <idm@hyperreal.org>
Date:: Fri, 31 Jul 1998 07:53:29 -0700 (PDT)
Subject:: Re: (idm) re: alex's dissertation on autechre, take one.
Reply to:: (idm) re: alex's dissertation on autechre, take one.

quoted 3 lines Next week's assignment: a 3 page essay on one of the following topics:

> Next week's assignment: a 3 page essay on one of the following topics: > (1) How does the music of Aphex Twin figuratively represent the dillemma > of the monkey's choice of the cloth mother and the wire mother?

uhmm.. i think Matmos would work better for this :) chris __ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ [*<n/ff> <=rr*/a|>r] - wednesdays 7-8 pm riders of the plastic groove - fridays 9-midnight kuci 88.9fm po box 4362 irvine ca 92616 -:.:'-"-':_/'"'"\_|'\-"-':_/_|'\_|'\_/'"'_/'"'"\_.:'-".:'-"'"'_/'"'_//'"'"

1998-07-31 13:32Geoffrey LanghamWhether you liked it or not, Alex's essay/dissertation/series of subjective imagery/"revie

From:: Geoffrey Langham <langham@eta.pha.jhu.edu>
To:: <idm@hyperreal.org>
Date:: Fri, 31 Jul 1998 09:32:39 -0400
Subject:: Re: (idm) re: alex's dissertation on autechre, take one.

Whether you liked it or not, Alex's essay/dissertation/series of subjective imagery/"review" DID stir up some conversation on this list, which has been dead as of late. And yes, Jason Sensation DOES have a purpose. I just don't know what it is yet. --Geoff

1998-07-31 18:09wellsAt 09:32 AM 7/31/98 -0400, Geoffrey Langham wrote: > Whether you liked it or not, Alex's e

From:: wells <s0ewoliv@titan.vcu.edu>
To:: Geoffrey Langham <langham@eta.pha.jhu.edu>, <idm@hyperreal.org>
Date:: Fri, 31 Jul 1998 14:09:12 -0400
Subject:: Re: (idm) re: alex's dissertation on autechre, take one.
Reply to:: Re: (idm) re: alex's dissertation on autechre, take one.

At 09:32 AM 7/31/98 -0400, Geoffrey Langham wrote:

quoted 1 line Whether you liked it or not, Alex's essay/dissertation/series of

> Whether you liked it or not, Alex's essay/dissertation/series of

subjective imagery/"review" DID stir up some conversation on this list, which has been dead as of late.

quoted 1 line

it was also complete and utter bullshit. if you've got to come up with paragraphs full of pretenious drivel using the most complex of words to show off what a bright cunt you think you are then you're not only an asshole, but you're completely missing the point of music in general. just my two cents. - wells oliver / s0ewoliv@titan.vcu.edu / http://mute.simplenet.com

1998-07-31 18:11mallenOn Fri, 31 Jul 1998, wells wrote: > > if you've got to come up with paragraphs full of pre

From:: mallen <annwn@zipcon.net>
To:: <idm@hyperreal.org>
Date:: Fri, 31 Jul 1998 11:11:07 -0700 (PDT)
Subject:: Re: (idm) re: alex's dissertation on autechre, take one.
Reply to:: Re: (idm) re: alex's dissertation on autechre, take one.

On Fri, 31 Jul 1998, wells wrote:

quoted 5 lines if you've got to come up with paragraphs full of pretenious drivel using

> > if you've got to come up with paragraphs full of pretenious drivel using > the most complex of words to show off what a bright cunt you think you are > then you're not only an asshole, but you're completely missing the point of > music in general.

ok i have decided to start a tally of all the posts in which Wells doesnt use the word pretentious ... im at 0 m.

1998-07-31 18:57wellsAt 11:11 AM 7/31/98 -0700, mallen wrote: > >ok i have decided to start a tally of all the

From:: wells <s0ewoliv@titan.vcu.edu>
To:: mallen <annwn@zipcon.net>, <idm@hyperreal.org>
Date:: Fri, 31 Jul 1998 14:57:59 -0400
Subject:: Re: (idm) re: alex's dissertation on autechre, take one.
Reply to:: Re: (idm) re: alex's dissertation on autechre, take one.

At 11:11 AM 7/31/98 -0700, mallen wrote:

quoted 5 lines ok i have decided to start a tally of all the posts in which Wells doesnt

> >ok i have decided to start a tally of all the posts in which Wells doesnt >use the word pretentious ... im at 0 > >m.

now you got yourself #1. - wells oliver / s0ewoliv@titan.vcu.edu / http://mute.simplenet.com

1998-07-31 19:21abenn@dircon.co.uk>At 09:32 AM 7/31/98 -0400, Geoffrey Langham wrote: Whether you liked it or not, Alex's es

From:: <abenn@dircon.co.uk>
To:: <idm@hyperreal.org>
Date:: Fri, 31 Jul 1998 20:21:35 +0100 (BST)
Subject:: Re: (idm) re: alex's dissertation on autechre, take one.

quoted 1 line At 09:32 AM 7/31/98 -0400, Geoffrey Langham wrote:

>At 09:32 AM 7/31/98 -0400, Geoffrey Langham wrote:

Whether you liked it or not, Alex's essay/dissertation/series of

quoted 2 lines subjective imagery/"review" DID stir up some conversation on this list,

>subjective imagery/"review" DID stir up some conversation on this list, >which has been dead as of late.

quoted 1 line it was also complete and utter bullshit.

>it was also complete and utter bullshit.

quoted 8 lines if you've got to come up with paragraphs full of pretenious drivel using

>if you've got to come up with paragraphs full of pretenious drivel using >the most complex of words to show off what a bright cunt you think you are >then you're not only an asshole, but you're completely missing the point of >music in general. > >just my two cents. > >- wells oliver / s0ewoliv@titan.vcu.edu / http://mute.simplenet.com

Ohhhh can't you lads just stop all this vitriol, leave the poor lad alone you big bullies! Everyone expresses themselves in their own ways and if you criticise a person for their own writing stylee, then you might intimidate them from ever proffering up an interesting, stimulating thought in the future and that would be our loss. and I'm just gonna die of boredom reading this list if I see one more blinkin Autechre posting! Alessandra

1998-08-01 09:12objet@let's try a little bit of situationist 'detournement.' to wit: "if you've got to come up w

From:: objet@ <lacanian@mindspring.com>
To:: <idm@hyperreal.org>
Date:: Sat, 01 Aug 1998 02:12:39 -0700
Subject:: Re: (idm) re: alex's dissertation on autechre, take one.

let's try a little bit of situationist 'detournement.' to wit: "if you've got to come up with *tracks* full of pretentious drivel using the most complex of *sounds* to show off what a bright cunt you think you are then you're not only an asshole, but you're completely missing the point of *writing* in general." doesn't work too well the other way around, does it? wonder why... peace/out sr -- sd wells wrote:

quoted 9 lines if you've got to come up with paragraphs full of pretenious drivel using

(idm) re: alex's dissertation on autechre, take one.