IDM Mailing Archive

On Tue, 25 Nov 1997, jimg/skoop wrote:

quoted 4 lines There are two reasons why I currently don't like the Prodigy:

> There are two reasons why I currently don't like the Prodigy: > > 1.) Their live performance on the MTV video music awards, where keith > literally drools, set me off as as just plain stupid.

I think the discussion is mainly focused on the output of Liam Howlett's musical skills, as compared to Keith Flint's lameness.

quoted 3 lines 2.) I've got an old tape, "the prodigy experience", which though dated

> 2.) I've got an old tape, "the prodigy experience", which though dated > is/was cool for it's time...the caliber of that music is much better than > the crap being played on MTV...they've gone downhill.

quoted 2 lines True, I've never listened to the whole new disc, but I've seen nothing that

> True, I've never listened to the whole new disc, but I've seen nothing that > would make me even want to.

You haven't given the new disc even a complete listen (most people listen to new releases atleast 2-3 times before they really begin to grasp something), and yet you make blanket statements such as "they've gone downhill."

quoted 1 line And whoever said that IDM is not danceable is flat wrong. My def of IDM

> And whoever said that IDM is not danceable is flat wrong. My def of IDM

Another blanket statement. No one ever said "IDM" is not danceable. What they did say, however, is that a sizeable percentage of IDM is not immediately dance "worthy." I'd like to see you dance to Autechre's "Envane" release. I tend to think that music akin to Envane is better listened tositting down, and relaxed.

quoted 2 lines is music that I can BOTH dance to, or sit and listen to, because it has

> is music that I can BOTH dance to, or sit and listen to, because it has > enough groove for the former, and enough depth for the latter.

Name some IDM with these qualities, I ask, because I am curious of your own definition, not because I doubt the statement.

quoted 3 lines -jimg

> -jimg > > ps. IDM--the perfect driving music!

It's definetly up there.

quoted 1 line --skoop@slackers.net

> --skoop@slackers.net

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quoted 6 lines is music that I can BOTH dance to, or sit and listen to, because it has

> > is music that I can BOTH dance to, or sit and listen to, because it has > > enough groove for the former, and enough depth for the latter. > > Name some IDM with these qualities, I ask, because I am curious of your own > definition, not because I doubt the statement. >

hmm... aphex's saw 85-92 comes to mind. especially "we are the music makers" and "xtal" (for me anyway) i love to just sit and take these in, but dancing to them is just as easy. in fact, most aphex stuff seems this way to me. lots of stuff on "i care...", "girl/boy" (which i think could also be adapted for a marching band - wouldn't that be something...), all kinds of stuff. that's all i'm going to think about for the moment. alan! np:sugar:fileundereasylistening

quoted 1 line And whoever said that IDM is not danceable is flat wrong. My def of

> > And whoever said that IDM is not danceable is flat wrong. My def of

IDM

quoted 2 lines Another blanket statement. No one ever said "IDM" is not danceable. What

> > Another blanket statement. No one ever said "IDM" is not danceable. What

they

quoted 2 lines did say, however, is that a sizeable percentage of IDM is not immediately

> did say, however, is that a sizeable percentage of IDM is not immediately > dance "worthy." I'd like to see you dance to Autechre's "Envane" release.

I

quoted 1 line tend to think that music akin to Envane is better listened tositting

> tend to think that music akin to Envane is better listened tositting

down, and

quoted 1 line relaxed.

> relaxed.

I don't agree with this, I cannot believe that you're actualy saying this. You probably have no moves or grooves . . . this funk makes you move can you get in the grove . . . . . 90% or more of Ae stuff is really danceable. For instance you mentioned Envane. First track (goz quarter) is total dancehiphopyfunkeeshit. . . you can dance your ass of on this one.

quoted 4 lines is music that I can BOTH dance to, or sit and listen to, because it has

> > is music that I can BOTH dance to, or sit and listen to, because it has > > enough groove for the former, and enough depth for the latter. > > Name some IDM with these qualities, I ask, because I am curious of your

own

quoted 1 line definition, not because I doubt the statement.

> definition, not because I doubt the statement.

top 10 floorfiller tracks (that come to my mind at the moment) 1. mag : gescom skam 2. spatz : clatterbox clear 3. nlogax : boards of canada skam 4. hornithology : vulva rephlex 5. i love you (huh) : friend & dr.kosmos dot 6. break it down : aux 88 direct beat 7. gert frooted : the horn evolution 8. bang bang : drexciya ur 9. mr frosty : mike & rich rephlex 0. housegirl and homeboy : like a tim djax If these aren't IDM than I don't know . . . bye Rob "oh for gods sake.... when are you people gonna get it into your head that Aphex, autechre, mu-ziq etc etc are all goddamn TECHNO, and thats exactly what they describe themselves as." Steve /k/./F/