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Daniel Raffel <raffel@acf2.nyu.edu> wrote:

quoted 4 lines just 'cuz spooky says in 1 album he plays bass on all songs with bass don't

>just 'cuz spooky says in 1 album he plays bass on all songs with bass don't >mean someone else doesn't play bass on another single he did. not like i'm >a spooky authority, i quite dislike him but i'm just trying to point out >innacuracies in what you said.

It says the same thing on his "Galactic Funk" single that it says in the liners to "Songs Of A Dead Dreamer": "DJ Spooky plays bass on ALL tracks where there's bass". I don't see what is inaccurate about anything that I said. If Spooky says he plays bass then the 'bassline' (if it is one) is his, or he is lying (i.e. someone else plays it, he sampled it from somewhere etc. etc.). Now, obviously something is strange since the 'bassline' in question appears on Vibert's "Plug 3" 12" from November 1995, and Spooky's album came out in 1996. That's WHY I asked the question. -Patrick np: VA - "Night Passage Demixed"

quoted 9 lines it sounds like both disks contain the same bass sample. i'm gonna break

>it sounds like both disks contain the same bass sample. i'm gonna break >out >both discs in mention and see whatup. i used to intern over at >asphodel, >thus explains the reason i got a record collection with spooky and plug. >can't stand that spooky, an arrogant fool. i must seperate that stuff from >the good stuff i have. in any event, it's interesting you point this out, >>later this afternoon i'll definitely compare the two tracks. sounds >pretty >interesting. take care. >- daniel

Sorry to drag this out any further, but nobody's suggested the obvious here (to my thinking). So Plug3 uses a particular bassline sample in 1995. Spooky hears it, and, being something of a bass player, decides to learn how to play the bassline (actually _play_, as in, on an electric bass). Then when it comes time to record some tracks, he reaches back into his memory and thinks, "hey, I'll use that bassline". Coming from the melting pot of influences that Spooky does (reggae/dub especially), it's not that unlikely. Dub music in particular has a history of "borrowing" licks, lines, entire instrumental tracks even. Then again, I could be completely wrong, but at least it's a decent theory. Bill / dj marathon

quoted 30 lines It says the same thing on his "Galactic Funk" single that it says

> It says the same thing on his "Galactic Funk" single that it says > in the liners to "Songs Of A Dead Dreamer": "DJ Spooky plays bass on > ALL tracks where there's bass". I don't see what is inaccurate about > anything that I said. If Spooky says he plays bass then the 'bassline' > (if it is one) is his, or he is lying (i.e. someone else plays it, he > sampled it from somewhere etc. etc.). > > Now, obviously something is strange since the 'bassline' in question > appears on Vibert's "Plug 3" 12" from November 1995, and Spooky's > album came out in 1996. That's WHY I asked the question. > > > -Patrick > > > np: VA - "Night Passage Demixed" > > > > >it sounds like both disks contain the same bass sample. i'm gonna break > >out >both discs in mention and see whatup. i used to intern over at > >asphodel, > >thus explains the reason i got a record collection with spooky and plug. > >can't stand that spooky, an arrogant fool. i must seperate that stuff from > >the good stuff i have. in any event, it's interesting you point this out, > >>later this afternoon i'll definitely compare the two tracks. sounds > >pretty >interesting. take care. > >- daniel > >

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"William D. VanLoo" <wdvanloo@mtu.edu> wrote:

quoted 5 lines So Plug3 uses a particular bassline sample in 1995. Spooky hears it, and,

>So Plug3 uses a particular bassline sample in 1995. Spooky hears it, and, >being something of a bass player, decides to learn how to play the >bassline (actually _play_, as in, on an electric bass). Then when it comes >time to record some tracks, he reaches back into his memory and thinks, >"hey, I'll use that bassline".

Don't ask me why I never thought of this. It sounds believable enough. ;-) On second listen it seems as though Vibert's 'bassline' is slightly different in one section, on top of the fact that it is also much slower than Spooky's, so who knows? I didn't mean to make this into a big deal ... all I really wanted to know was where the 'bassline' in question was from? Did Vibert create it, or sample it, and if it's sampled, where from? Just interested is all.

quoted 3 lines Coming from the melting pot of influences that Spooky does (reggae/dub

>Coming from the melting pot of influences that Spooky does (reggae/dub >especially), it's not that unlikely. Dub music in particular has a history >of "borrowing" licks, lines, entire instrumental tracks even.

True enough.

quoted 2 lines Then again, I could be completely wrong, but at least it's a decent

>Then again, I could be completely wrong, but at least it's a decent >theory.

See above. -Patrick np: Schutze - "Regard: Music By Film"