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1997-05-29 14:40James Clark (idm) Re: idm V1 #1109
└─ 1997-05-30 04:52The Rare Guy Re: (idm) Re: idm V1 #1109
1997-05-30 00:140 (idm) Re: idm V1 #1109
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1997-05-29 14:40James Clark>> Try the Fostex D5 DAT modelled on the DA-20. Nice options, with more >> programming and
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quoted 2 lines Try the Fostex D5 DAT modelled on the DA-20. Nice options, with more>> Try the Fostex D5 DAT modelled on the DA-20. Nice options, with more >> programming and Balanced XLR outputs which is great if you take it live.
It
quoted 1 line will plug straight into a stage box (multicore) and have no noise>> will plug straight into a stage box (multicore) and have no noise
because
quoted 1 line of the balanced outs. It has a similar price range and is white (bleh!)>> of the balanced outs. It has a similar price range and is white (bleh!)
quoted 2 lines Portables are harder live but work alright in the studio. They do have>> Portables are harder live but work alright in the studio. They do have >> lower dynamic range.
quoted 1 line James Clark>> James Clark
quoted 1 line Please don't tell me that you are going to use this DAT to "play" a "l>Please don't tell me that you are going to use this DAT to "play" a "live"
show. Why go out and fake
quoted 1 line it? Whenever I play live I take a small amount of gear and a laptop, that>it? Whenever I play live I take a small amount of gear and a laptop, that
way I can actually be in
quoted 1 line control of what happens. I feel bad enough for having to use a sequencer>control of what happens. I feel bad enough for having to use a sequencer
to perform live, but playing
quoted 1 line to a DAT is something I can't encourage. There is a certain element of>to a DAT is something I can't encourage. There is a certain element of
surprise and exhilaration when
quoted 1 line you do something live and people react to it, and you will never get that>you do something live and people react to it, and you will never get that
if you play to a DAT.
quoted 2 lines Peace out,>Peace out, >James Bernard
Jim, you are 100% correct. But unfortunately it is a matter of cost. Most bands that I work with here on the east coast (Australia), use samplers mixed with guitars and don't really have the headspace for sorting out sequencing on stage. We used to use Harddrives and open ended sequencing on stage but drives would crash and the wrong sequence would load up etc... Samples take too long to load between songs. This could be solved by a shift to more suitable gear or bigger faster storage media. The rock/electro crossover just cant handle the gear on stage. It's like some ultra produced pop thing, delusion maybe! There is no real room for improv' stuff with presequenced/DAT performances. One performance we managed to have some backing on HiFi video with SMPTE on the mono track. The songs would come and go and there would be times of silence on the tape, usually 5-8 mins. The SMPTE would spool out to the sync in of an MPC60MkII and sequences would be triggered from start points in the play list. Along side this we had a live kick triggering the MPC and that would take over as the newest timecode, so as long as you played 4 on the floor you could regulate the tempo. This synced with a MIDI timed delay kept the polyrythms in time and made for very dubby sounding tracks. Throwing in some DIN sync through a MSQ100 to Cr8000's a TR606 and a KPR77 made for Rydm Bliss. A Perth band works with a Laptop, Trakker/MOD software and a Ensoniq TS10. that works! Sydney band Insurge work with whole phrases (up to 8 bars) sampled into a Roland S770, one key triggerring what sounds like a whole band. This is complimented with Live drums, industrial percussion and guitar and bass, works well. Different bands/audiences/reactions/reasons/people/perceptions make for a varied experience, but nothing, like you say, works as well as live triggered events. See the Young Gods some time. Live keys, drums and vocals. Awesome! Peace - Unity James %)
1997-05-30 04:52The Rare GuyOn Thursday, 29-May-97, James Clark wrote [about (idm) Re: idm V1 #1109]: >Samples take to
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On Thursday, 29-May-97, James Clark wrote [about (idm) Re: idm V1 #1109]:
quoted 2 lines Samples take too long to load between songs. This could be solved by a>Samples take too long to load between songs. This could be solved by a >shift to more suitable gear or bigger faster storage media. The
I can just have all my tracks that I'm going to play pre sequenced (sorry :p) into high quality samples, and then play each sample using one of the amiga's internal audio channels, there are 4, and then I can play some samples in between tracks and then the next track, etc. of course this doesn't allow room for improv. then again I'm using a rather unique setup, whereas i'm just tracking my stuff (ALL my stuff, well I have one MIDI track i'm working on, but that's it so far :) __ __\ \ / /_\ \ \_____/ , m7=
1997-05-30 00:14galaxey@earthlink.netmonique wrote: > > i never said that. (some guy did) i was just commenting on the similari
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monique wrote:
quoted 3 lines i never said that. (some guy did) i was just commenting on the similarity> > i never said that. (some guy did) i was just commenting on the similarity > between that and E. A. R. (Experimental Audio Research). all clear now?
Speaking of E.A.R can anyone describe there music? I saw a CD of theirs at Tower that has all this killer old Analogue Keyboards on the cover (Moogs, Putney, and some other shit I dont know) I almost bought it b/c of the cover, but wanted to ask the list first. I don't recall the title of this disc, but it has like 5-6 tracks 0