Before I go any further, I thought I'd point out to everybody that, as
of today, I am now 8,763 days old, and that Jon D gets bonus
consistency points for rising to the bait of the troll I left in my
last message to IDM (bonus points to any of _you_ who figure out what
the bait was).
the freshmaker == GMerchan@gnn.com (Gonzi Merchan (Fresh))
freshmaker>
freshmaker> Has anyone heard anything about a domestic Pearl's Girl
freshmaker> single? I've been putting off getting it...
Geez, don't be so cheap! The Logic 2xCD version of the singles cost me
like $10 or something, and that was at the chronically overpriced
Virgin Megastore in San Francisco (did you know that Virgin has a
limousine motorcycle service in London, as well as their own charter
hot-air balloon service? I didn't...).
mkultra == Mark Kolmar <mkolmar@xnet.com>
mkultra>
mkultra> Was "Born Slippy" simply reissued as it was, or with new versions?
Since Lazlo didn't post the listing for the two CDs and their
corresponding three 12"s, here goes (courtesy of the freshly-renovated
Underworld page at <
http://www.fas.harvard.edu/~tremblay/main.html>):
born slippy .NUXX, 1996.
2 x CD- BMG Logic 7432139599-2
3 x 12inch- BMG Logic 7432139599-1
12inch- JBO 44
CD5- JBO44 CDS1
1. born slippy .NUXX 11.37
2. born slippy .NUXX DEEP PAN 9.59
3. born slippy .NUXX DARREN PRICE MIX 6.31
4. born slippy .NUXX DARREN PRICE REMIX 8.08
CD5- JBO44 CDS2
1. born slippy .NUXX [short] 4.24
2. dark + long [DARK TRAIN] 10.23
3. banstyle [ALEX REECE MIX] 5.39
I _never_ say anything at all if I can't say anything nice (nope. not
me), but if I _were_ that kind of opinionated bastard, I might mention
the fact that the Darren Price remixes struck me as yawnfests and that
I really don't understand Alex Reece's popularity, because his remix
did nothing for me either (in much the same way that I thought his
remix of Model 500 was, well, pathetic). Because I'm a nice guy, I'll
merely content myself with being puzzled by the fact that they've
included a several year-old remix in the form of "Dark Train". Hmm...
mkultra> What's this about a "Dark & Long" CD? The original release
mkultra> was 1 CD and 2 12" singles, with little overlap among them,
mkultra> and very extended mixes on the 12"s.
Well, others have posted the track listing of the Pingo / April records
version, so I won't, but I will say that the versions on the 2x12" and
this CD kick the living snot out of the ones on the original Junior
Boys' Own CD single. _Especially_ "Spoon Deep," which is just about my
favorite deep techno song ever.
mkultra> Still searching for the "Mmm Skyscraper I Love You" single --
mkultra> I will gladly take this off your hands if you want to part
mkultra> with it.
You're funny.
gmv == .GMV500 <videla@ucsu.Colorado.EDU>
gmv>
gmv> Hey
gmv> while all of you are arguing over Rephlex releases, or whether or
gmv> not the latest Black Dog album is good/not, I will sit at home
gmv> enjoying the recent release from INTERLOPER. I haven't seen anyone
gmv> mention this CD/vinyl/whatever, so I will pass on the
gmv> suggestion.
Ooo... goody! I _love_ the "Daddy Vegas" EP, which is pretty much
prototypical IDM, as far as I'm concerned. Even despite the fact that
it's on an unfashionable label like Plink Plonk. I'll have to track
this down. I never was able to find a copy of _Space Cowboys_, which
hacked me off, because when I finally got around to buying the first
Plink Plonk compilation I loved that as well. TEEX did those guys a
huge disfavor by including the tracks they did on TEEX 2. That turned
me off to Plink Plonk for years.
gmv> Unfortunately as I always say, I am horrible at reviews. I will
gmv> say that this CD has the magnitude of something like BRAIN PILOT,
gmv> CHERRY BOMB, SNESURREAL, E.V.A, etc. Those are also artists I hear
gmv> very little of, which is a shame.
You're not the only one. While I personally can't stand Sensurreal or
Brain Pilot, I _love_ Cherry Bomb. Not long after I shelled out $800
bucks (OK, maybe it was only $23 -- but that's still TOO DAMN MUCH) for
Cherry Bomb's _Electronics For Dogs_ at the Virgin Megastore I found
the SAME DAMN CD for $2 a pop at the local Tower Outlet. I bought all
the ones I could find and gave them away as party favors. It's a shame
that more people didn't buy this record, because Richard Brown is very
gifted at making straightforward, eclectic dancefloor music that works
well for listening. Loads of electro and tasty Hannant-esque textures
(which is, of course, no coincidence).
Which reminds me -- do any of you trainspotterati know anything about a
label called Phuture Communications? I got a white-label of PHUCOMM 1
about six months ago, and it's a fun, cheesy IDM-style breakbeat record
that sounds like nothing so much as the light-hearted, whimsical
high-speed breakbeat Caustic Window tracks (as opposed to the bloody,
thuggish Caustic Window stuff, which is just as nice).
gmv> I am pretty ignorant about a lot of this music so I look to the
gmv> list for it, but many of you argue (rather than discuss) about
gmv> Rephlex, WARP, Awerks, not other labels that could use the help
gmv> this day in time.
Hear, hear! Not that RePHLeX and Warp don't crank out loads of quality
tunes and all, but shit, y'all sure do love to microanalyze them a
lot. _I've_ merely given up hope that the scope of discussion on this
group will ever appreciably broaden, but, like Per, I can't quite bring
myself to press the 'unsvbscribe' button. I've been on this silly list
for close to three years now. You can all flame me now.
gmv> BTW, the title of the disc is called AUGER and it is on the PLINK PLONK
gmv> label ( in have never heard ANY person mention them on the IDM list
gmv> before, though I could be wrong) the artist's name is Johm Ryman.
Like I said, I'll pick this up.
rns == Ryan N Schreyer <schreyer@plains.nodak.edu>
rns> Question again: "Limited Edition Aphex Twin Classics on Couloured
rns> vinyl" Why was only one record coloured? The first one is a lovely
rns> powder blue, but the second record is just plain black. Euch! Bit
rns> of a letdown, that, after seeing the first one. At least the music
rns> kicks!
I hate to break it to you, but you got screwed. _Both_ records in my
copy are a cool, minty blue. Of course, they date from the period when
R&S seemed hell-bent on filling the vinyl more full than it was
supposed to be, so all of the mixes sound slightly overcompressed and
muddy, but at least I have all those great tracks off the "Xylem Tube"
EP on vinyl. Hours of scrating fun!
(The _worst_ release in the "Over-Plentiful R&S Pressing" category is
The Source Experience's _Different Journeys_ -- sure, there are over 81
minutes of Robert Leiner greatness on the records, but the compression
they were forced to use to cram all of that music onto two pieces of
vinyl take a lot of the color out of the fairly subtle music. Contrast
this with the Advent's _Elements of Life_, which spares not on the
heavy virgin vinyl and spreads itself over FOUR records. Kudos to
Internal and the Advent for caring about how their music sounds. Of
course, then they blew it by putting bonus tracks on the CD version,
but shit, we can't all be perfect.)
dj == David Jones <djones@jfku.jfku.edu>
^^^^
JFK University? Weird...
dj> And here I thought that Plink Plonk had done the ole' belly-up move
dj> on us! Good to here it's still running. And one reason that they
dj> may not get much talk is that they seem to have a terrible
dj> distribution...
I have a _horribly_ difficult time finding Plink Plonk here in the Bay
Area. I've found the Interloper EP and that's _it_. I found Stacy
Pullen's "Death March / Flash" EP up in Portland, and of course after
that it started popping up everywhere in SF, but I've never even _seen_
any other new PP vinyl in the city. Then again, I tend to be flipping
through the bins at nausea-inducing speed and their logo _is_ printed
awfully teeny, so maybe I'm missing them all.
miles == Miles Egan <cullen@rahul.net>
miles>
miles> Speaking of IDM breakthroughs into mainstream media, SF's
miles> "underground" dance scene and DJs are the front cover story of
miles> this weeks SF Bay Guardian (THE free SF weekly). Two pages of
miles> DJ interviews are followed by full-page stories on Jonah Sharp
miles> and the Hardkiss bros. (duck, Jon!) Are any of the companies
miles> that make rave hats and baggy pants publically held yet?
*tortured whimper*
Oh MAN did these articles suck. Not only did they have to cleverly work
in the tired and puke-inducing "'digerati'" angle again (sometimes I
just want to smite those cute and lovable boys and girls at Suck upside
the head), but the DJs they featured are, in the parlance, "manky". Why
couldn't they have mentioned Joe Rice, Jon Santos, Franklin Shotwell,
or any of the other DJs in San Francisco who are actually true to the
soul of underground dance music and have talent? Oh, wait, I answered
my own question...
Articles like this one are why allowing dance music out into the real
world is generally such an unmitigated disaster. Boring middle-class
white people think of dance music as being "funky" and shit, and
articles like this one play to those expectations.
There's more to dance music than the Jackson Five, honey-chiles...
keep it strong,
keep it underground,
ozyamandias
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