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1996-07-28 03:29Running FreeHas anyone seen ebtg on their current tour? I've heard Ben Watt is spinning tunes prior to

From:: Running Free <intone@warwick.net>
To:: <idm@hyperreal.com>
Date:: Sat, 27 Jul 1996 23:29:36 -0400
Subject:: (idm) DJ Ben Watt

Has anyone seen ebtg on their current tour? I've heard Ben Watt is spinning tunes prior to the band's show. What type of music is he spinning? Paul Rafanello on now: Electronic "Raise The Pressure"

1996-07-28 18:53Mark BowenEverything but the Girl stopped by the local Drum and Bass/Dub night at the Empty Bottle h

From:: Mark Bowen <mb@gettins.bche.uic.edu>
To:: Running Free <intone@warwick.net>, <idm@hyperreal.com>
Date:: Sun, 28 Jul 1996 13:53:26 -0500
Subject:: Re: (idm) DJ Ben Watt

Everything but the Girl stopped by the local Drum and Bass/Dub night at the Empty Bottle here in Chicago. After hanging at the bar for awhile Ben took the stage and spun a mix of upbeat to jazzy stuff. His tune selection was alright but the mixing skills were passable. No huge screw-up but the mixes tended to be fast cuts. What do you expect from a bandwagon-jumper? -- Mark Bowen mb@gettins.bche.uic.edu

1996-07-29 03:02Greg Earle> Everything but the Girl stopped by the local Drum and Bass/Dub night at the > Empty Bott

From:: Greg Earle <earle@isolar.Tujunga.CA.US>
To:: <idm@hyperreal.com>
Date:: Sun, 28 Jul 1996 20:02:33 -0700
Subject:: (idm) Bandwagon-jumping, was Re: DJ Ben Watt
Reply to:: Re: (idm) DJ Ben Watt

quoted 7 lines Everything but the Girl stopped by the local Drum and Bass/Dub night at the

> Everything but the Girl stopped by the local Drum and Bass/Dub night at the > Empty Bottle here in Chicago. After hanging at the bar for awhile Ben took > the stage and spun a mix of upbeat to jazzy stuff. His tune selection was > alright but the mixing skills were passable. No huge screw-up but the mixes > tended to be fast cuts. > > What do you expect from a bandwagon-jumper?

That's a gross thing to say. Some 19 year old in England can say "Drum n' Bass - now *that's* what I want to do", get some gear together, get a record out, and everything's copacetic. But heaven forbid if two 30-somethings say "Drum n' Bass - now *that's* what we want to do now, because we love it" and put a Dn'B record out, well then, they're "bandwagon-jumpers" because they actually had previous records out that weren't in that style. I guess Jon Drukman is a "bandwagon-jumper" because he used to make Industrial music and wasn't doing Bass Kittens in 1989? I guess 3 Phase's "Der Klang Der Familie" isn't a seminal Techno record because, after all, they were just former Industrialites (Gerechtigkeits Liga) who became "bandwagon-jumpers" in 1991/92? I suppose since my wife had Industrial records out she'll be viewed as a "bandwagon-jumper" when her Techno material gets out? Oh, then of course there's that Mike Paradinas character; since his next album is supposedly Jungle then there's another "bandwagon-jumper" right there ... Need I say more? - Greg

1996-07-29 14:11Mark BowenMy original post on this subject was not an attempt to slag of EBTG's attempts at drum and

From:: Mark Bowen <mb@gettins.bche.uic.edu>
To:: Greg Earle <earle@isolar.Tujunga.CA.US>, <idm@hyperreal.com>
Date:: Mon, 29 Jul 1996 09:11:34 -0500
Subject:: (idm) EBTG Bandwagon-jumping

My original post on this subject was not an attempt to slag of EBTG's attempts at drum and bass but rather Ben Watt's DJing. It is one thing to experiment with different musical styles and quite another to join the "wanna-be-a-DJ" mob. The only reason he's spinning is because of who he is, not because of his skills. With respect to their newest album, I thought the the tracks produced by Howie B. and the other established names were good, but out side of that the breaks weren't that novel compared to what's already out there. It seemed to me like Tracey is turning into a living sample. I thought her voice sounded best over their own brand of folksy pop and better over massive attack's dub styling than the latest attempt at breaks. Its a good first effort at programming, I'll give Ben that. -- Mark Bowen mb@gettins.bche.uic.edu

(idm) EBTG Bandwagon-jumping