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From:
Mark
To:
, Luis-Manuel Garcia
Date:
Mon, 5 Sep 2005 03:14:23 -0500
Subject:
Re: [idm] post glitch
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<11180762-1DE5-11DA-ADB7-000A95774B94@psilos.net>
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I for sure never thought that I would see the name Carlo Gesualdo mentioned on the idml. Very good analysis also. I especially like that in your breakdown "glitch" isn't relegated into the category of "computer music". It illustrates that glitch really is just "the valorization of art objects that display/perform their own breakdown." Would Cage be glitch then also (when he's not performing organica), his prepared piano was essentially a series of intentional mistakes, that was used to "seek out and prioritize moments of technological failure." Will there ever again be a musical form that is truly new? Mark also in Chi-tilla On Saturday, September 3, 2005, at 05:31 PM, Luis-Manuel Garcia wrote:
quoted 85 lines Erm, John Cage?> Erm, John Cage? > > Anyway, here's my $0.02: > > We might benefit from separating glitch into a few interlocking > aspects: practice, aesthetic and interpretation. > Thus, > > Practice: the use of technological failures and (sometimes) > unintentional mistakes for productive/creative purposes. > > Aesthetic: the valorization of art objects that display/perform their > own breakdown. > > Interpretation: an approach to art objects that seeks out and > prioritizes moments of technological failure. > > With a multi-part definition like this, you can adapt it to fit a > wider range of styles as "glitch" in some way. For example, you could > argue that mannerist madrigal composer Carlo Gesualdo (1561-1613) > produced "glitch" in that his music pushed his modal/tonal systems to > the point of breakdown. > > Can you tell I'm studying for my comprehensives? > > LMG > Chi-town. > > On Sep 3, 2005, at 8:20 AM, Lee Stacey wrote: > >> >> I'm sure the next big thing will be "Organica" (assuming some student >> paper hasn't coined the phrase already). This is performed live by >> nature its self and is only performed and never recorded. >> >> I'm telling you, it's already everywhere but it's always flown below >> the >> radar of pop culture. >> >> <>< Pilchard <>< >> Tunes by Pilchard: >> http://pilchard.org/ >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: sven [mailto:ml.sven@subscience.de] >> Sent: 02 September 2005 18:13 >> To: lee@codeaudio.com; idm@hyperreal.org >> Subject: RE: [idm] post glitch >> >> At 18:11 02.09.2005, Lee Stacey wrote: >> >>> Pushing this one up again because I didn't see any replies (sorry if >>> there were some, I must have missed them). >>> >> >> i've missed it intentionally because thinking of developement of >> music styles as >> linear processes is deprecated and you didn't tell what you mean by >> glitch. >> the 1920's dadaist performances using defective gramophone players? >> the 1930's performances by john cage using radios? >> the 1950's distorted electric guitars? >> but you want an answer anyway, right? >> ok - the next big thing (but don't tell your friends) is "scramblism". >> >> sven. >> >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org >> For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org >> >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org >> For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org >> >> > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > >
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