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Luis-Manuel Garcia
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Tue, 25 Jan 2005 09:46:56 -0600
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Re: [idm] ...another mechanical piece of noise
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Truth be told, if I wanted something that "develops dramatically in an interesting way" I would listen to Wagner or Beethoven. I'm pretty fond of repetition as a compositional strategy, and I think that the refusal of narrative structure is one of the strongest aspects of electronic dance music in general. Also, I have trouble imagining the separation between music and technique that you make below. Technique/Expressivity or Complexity/Simplicity might work better for your purposes, although I'm still not entirely sold... cheers, Luis On Jan 25, 2005, at 5:09 AM, David Sim wrote:
quoted 45 lines I think part of this "I hate DSP wankery" depends on what sort of ear>> I think part of this "I hate DSP wankery" depends on what sort of ear >> you have for noise. If noise is noise is noise to you, then a lot of >> heavily processed Max/DSP-produced stuff will probably sound similar >> and boring. On the other hand, if noise is just unrecognized music to >> you, then it's a lot more exciting. > > I'm not sure. I quite like noise. I don't think all of the people who > are ambivalent towards DSPery are merely objecting to the lack of big > obvious melodies. The problem that I personally have with some[1] of > the heavily processed stuff around at the moment is that it makes an > impressive number of parameter changes per second its main feature, > and enables people to try to keep your interest by repeating the same > idea over and over again with a different 17 plugins every time, > rather than by writing something that develops dramatically in an > interesting way. > > The comparison to the introduction of drum machines doesn't really > hold up - if you like electronic music at all, you'd be forced to > admit that programming dense glitch-hoppery is pretty technically > intense. Probably a better analogy would be to the Steve Vai-esque > fretwankers, or to the sillier end of slap bass, where technical skill > and speed are worshipped at the expense of everything else.[2] Whereas > if you're Jimi Hendrix or Charlie Parker or (for my money) Autechre > you can be technical and musical, and everyone wins. > > d. > > [1] but far from all. Some of it I love. > [2] I'm probably going to get savaged by outraged Steve Vai fans now... > > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an > attachment > may still contain software viruses, which could damage your computer > system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with > the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK > legislation. > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org >
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