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From:
William Samuels
To:
Sean Smith ,
Date:
Thu, 16 Oct 2003 17:45:50 -0700 (PDT)
Subject:
Re: [idm] Re: political thread
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Regarding politics & music, the Monthly Review wrote a great article on Joe Strummer. It's definitely worth reading! http://www.monthlyreview.org/0603ambrosio.htm I'm reading the new Michael Moore book "Dude, Where's My Country" and there's some pretty amazing stuff in that book that most people don't know about. The Bush family have been involved with the Bin Ladens going back as far as 1977. If you are interested in reading about it search "Arbusto" + "Bin Laden" and you'll see Osama's brother invested $5 Million in Bush Jr's first oil venture back in 1977. Other Bin Ladens have been involved for decades with the "Carlyle Group" which Bush SR is a part of. And MUCH MUCH MORE. I think political message fit better with more aggressive styles of music like hip hop, punk and even some industrial. I don't know how well it would fit with idm. I'm sure it could be done well. <sean_djblues@yahoo.com> wrote:
quoted 40 lines I really hate to quote bumper stickers, but this> I really hate to quote bumper stickers, but this > thread made me think of one I saw recently - "If > you're not outraged, you're not paying attention." > I don't think any thoughtful music should be > apolitical at this time in history. What's the point > of being apolitical in times like these? What I mean > by saying that is that all of our basic liberties > are being threatened by the politics that some are > choosing to ignore. > Our governments consider our music political! They > look at underground electronic music, and they see a > political movement. We are all part of a demographic > whether we like it or not. They don't care whether > the people making the music are sitting in their > bedrooms ignoring politics. I'm no conspiracy > theorist or anything, but over the thirteen years > that I've been a part of the electronic music scene, > I've seen many laws passed and wrongly enforced that > seem to be trying to single out this "apolitical" > music. > I believe that the biggest difference that anyone > can make in this messed up world is through personal > interaction. I have way more respect for artists > like Herbert, Timeblind, Matmos, Coldcut, etc, than > I do for artists whose politics are a mystery to me, > and it sounds like some other people on this list > feel similarly. > > "i'd like to say that more artists should express > their political > views more. music can be a very powerful tool when > it's used properly and > plus we need a public enemy-type element in this > sound..." > > I completely agree. It's wierd that the political > atmosphere (in regards to music) that surfaced > during the Reagan/Bush years hasn't come about > recently, even with the current political > atmospheres in the US/UK
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