Well I don't know if I'm getting philosophical about this but in theory I
can play a record a hundred times over and have it still be visibly "mint" -
so long as the needle is placed at the beginning of the record and allowed
to play until the end each time (effectively eliminating nicks and scratches
from moving the needle). This however will degrade the quality overall.
I suppose the correct reference to "mint" would be to add - "only played
once" or "never played ever".
Now that is MINT :)
When it comes to using the term mint with regards to vinyl it's difficult to
substitute the word "sealed" since many records do not arrive with any sort
of seal. Just a sleeve. In addition, a record could look great visibly but
be of poorer audio quality because it's been overplayed even if it was
handled delicately.
And to reply to Adam's post I'll say - indeed, this is my point exactly.
Including a bit more info in your auction description helps the buying
public no what they are paying for - especially with such a rare and
high-priced item.
To reply to cuisine 707 I say see above for Adam's method. Although saying
"first owner" and the like may or may not be honest this is the nature of
auctions - essential the buyer is trusting the seller (and ratings are
supposed to help this). When selling such a rare item however any additional
information you can provide is always helpful.
Shimone/Justes
http://www.staticbeats.com | Electronic Music For The Mind
http://www.shimone.org | Pictures From The Soul
----- Original Message -----
From: "EggyToast" <youn0394@umn.edu>
To: <idm@hyperreal.org>
Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2001 12:03 PM
Subject: Re: [idm] Mask 100 FA - Mint?
quoted 3 lines On 8 Nov 2001, Static Beats doth wrote:
> On 8 Nov 2001, Static Beats doth wrote:
> > So here's my question.
> > If these MASK records are always bouncing around from the hands of
buyers
quoted 3 lines and sellers on Ebay how do they always remain in mint condition? Has no
> > and sellers on Ebay how do they always remain in mint condition? Has no
> one
> > ever played their copies of these records? Does no one ever touch them
or
quoted 11 lines place them on a turntable? Does a needle never touch the record? If a
> > place them on a turntable? Does a needle never touch the record? If a
> $350
> > reserve is a $350 reserve then shouldn't Mint be *MINT*?
> >
> > This question should not be mistaken as directed to the original poster.
> > It's a general question regarding the oft ebay'd MASK series and "mint"
> > vinyl auctions.
>
> A lot of this is a re-interpretation of the word "mint." It's supposed to
> mean "untouched by air, human hands, etc.," but it now means "no physical
> imperfections, etc." And it's pretty easy to keep a record looking mint
if
quoted 21 lines you take good care of it.
> you take good care of it.
>
> Generally, when it comes to records, the distinction between the above two
> is "sealed" vs. "mint." A record can be played and stay mint, to most
> people, whereas a sealed copy will automatically get a much higher price.
> A mint copy of HAB2 can fetch upwards of $90US, whereas a sealed copy will
> easily get over $120US.
>
> It also goes without saying that any item's condition on eBay is a little
> worse than advertised. The things I've sold I've tried my best to explain
> their actual condition, and I get compliments from buyers who say that the
> condition was much better than expected. So, it seems that most people
> understand that the sellers are usually fibbing a little. Especially on
> items that need to be used in order to be enjoyed.
>
> derek
>
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