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From:
Gil
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Wed, 18 Jul 2001 10:18:12 -0400 (EDT)
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Re: [idm]Laptop Punks and Powerbook Pop
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Funny you mention that... An old roomate of mine made me realize a lot about music / and the people side of things. He was pretty much an indy rock fan with leaningstoward the culture of good songwriting, had a few thousand CDs, many 7"s, etc... So we'd always discuss music and argue and after a while it became very appearent to me that he (and it clicked that much of music journalism) always has to relate a human element when discussing music. I always saw music as some abstractish art of varying degrees (and btw I never really cared about lyrics - vocals were just another instrument). To read almost every review in rolling stone or spin and they begin by talking about WHAT an an album says just didn't make sense (like when they'd review NIN). So it's always kinda funny when we read simon reynolds cuz he does approach music from the cultural side of things. EDM is always contextualized as coming from raves. When he talks about IDM, music that I think a good portion of comes from personal somewhat abstract experimentation for its own sake, it's not quite fair to the people closest to the music (the artists and fervent consumers). It often misses the point. But I suppose you can never argue your way out of 'it's made by humans, it's listened to by humans, you can't escape the human element.' On Wed, 18 Jul 2001, Kent williams wrote:
quoted 1 line Aren't journalists just failed rock stars?> > Aren't journalists just failed rock stars?
quoted 3 lines Isn't that a cliche? Strangely enough, I know> Isn't that a cliche? Strangely enough, I know > a few guys who lay no claim to musical talent, but they're > perceptive listeners and excellent writers.
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