Re: [idm] the one tool you need to be the next afx..
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From: "Philip Sherburne" <philip@askjeeves.com>
To: <idm@hyperreal.org>
Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2001 12:53 PM
Subject: Re: [idm] the one tool you need to be the next afx..
quoted 5 lines So.... you're saying that eToys *didn't* actually sue etoy.com to try to> So.... you're saying that eToys *didn't* actually sue etoy.com to try to
> stop them from using their own domain name, even though etoy.com predated
> eToys by TWO YEARS? Are you saying that eToys *didn't* use totally
> fraudulent courtroom tactics to try to shut down a legitimate and
> independent group that had nothing, whatsoever, to do with eToys?
no, I'm saying that the lawsuit was the end result of a lot of wrangling and
pigheadedness on both parts. etoy.com is as stupid as etoys.com.
Revolutionary, my ass. They're a bunch of dipshits, and the most
revolutionary thing they've done is provided a neat trick for porn spammers.
I'm not defending eToys, I'm saying making a blanket statement like "ETOYS
IS EVIL" because of some past event that was ultimately resolved, and which
you know very little about, is pretty stupid.
quoted 2 lines At least you don't sound too defensive about it. Let me guess, they laid> At least you don't sound too defensive about it. Let me guess, they laid
> you off, and you're *still* toeing the corporate line?
Actually, I left long before the layoffs. I'm not psychic, but it wasn't
exactly difficult to see what was ahead. I'm not toeing the corporate line,
either, when this topic was actually SOMEWHAT RELEVANT, I made my fair share
of stink about it at work. However, when I saw my name up on RTMark as being
one of the people who "quit" because of the whole deal, it became apparent
that they were as full of shit as eToys was, and I lost interest in the
matter. I was more pissed off about the fact that eToys was making it's web
people work in customer service and the warehouses to meet holiday demand,
anyway. Now THAT was evil.
My point is, I guess, that the whole thing was more involved than pointed
out on /. and rtMark at the time, and the lawsuit wasn't the initial
reaction, it was a stupid recourse taken when everything else had failed.
I'm pissed that eToys failed because it's a sign that internet e-Commerce is
merely going consolidate the power of corporate giants like WalMart, instead
of providing entirely new channels. eToys was a step in the right
direction - overall, the corporate culture was relaxed, I could do what the
fuck I wanted most of the time - as big as it was, there was a 'startup'
atmosphere, and most of the people I worked with were cool, liberal and
open-minded. I don't think there are going to be too many places like that
around in 2 or 3 years.
I'm not toeing the corporate line anymore than I'm willing to toe the rtMark
line. I prefer to think for myself and make my own judgements, thanks.
david
quoted 35 lines If you really buy any of that shit, you're truly deluded. eToys> If you really buy any of that shit, you're truly deluded. eToys
> stock
> dropped because it was ridiculously overpriced, at around the same
> time most
> other bloated tech stocks started dropping. Toywar/rtMark utilized
> this
> coincidence to make themselves look good, which in my eyes is just
> as bad as
> what eToys - actually, no, not eToys - one misguided dickhead at
> eToys -
> did. I used to work there, and the majority of people I interacted
> with,
> including most of upper management, were highly pissed off about the
> whole
> affair, but only got wind of it once it had already escalated to an
> uncontrollable point.
>
> Ehh, fuck it, this is a pointless conversation. People who blindly
> accept
> whatever info is shoved down their throats piss me off - it doesn't
> matter
> whether what they're blindly accepting is the usual mainstream media
> crap or
> some "underground activist" bullshit.
>
> david
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