did you listen to it on weed tho
On Fri, May 8, 2015 at 4:50 PM, Clint Anderson <clinta@gmail.com> wrote:
quoted 200 lines i dont think its so much a matter of 'liking' it as its really easy to
> i dont think its so much a matter of 'liking' it as its really easy to
> press the same button several times
>
>
> Clint Anderson
> Systems Engineer
>
> On Fri, May 8, 2015 at 3:44 PM, kent williams <chaircrusher@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> I think that there's a lot of subtlety in Jlins beats and song
>> structures; but she does like that machine-gun repeat thing. You can make
>> fun of superficial traits of her music, or meet her halfway and listen for
>> what's interesting in it. Or not; plenty of other music for you to listen
>> to.
>>
>>
>> On Fri, May 8, 2015 at 1:12 PM Clint Anderson <clinta@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> disclaimer: don't get too pissed off, i am trolling to some degree here
>>> :)
>>>
>>> just tried to listen to jlin's dark energy and gave up .... here are
>>> some tips for footwork producers:
>>>
>>> 1. even your MPC has velocity control, that means that individual
>>> hits/notes/etc can actually be at different volumes from one another
>>> 2. the MPC can actually play samples at different pitches, in fact, you
>>> can create what are called 'melodies' consisting of two or more notes at
>>> different frequencies
>>> 3. for many decades now, devices known as 'effects' have been made
>>> available, many of which are built into your MPC -- for fun, trying
>>> applying an 'effect' to one of the sounds in your 'song' -- the results can
>>> be fascinating and are very popular in most every genre.
>>> 4. drum sounds -- did you know? you can load different drum sounds into
>>> your MPC. that's right, now, not every song has to use the same hi-hat,
>>> snare, and bassdrum, on every single one of your albums, for your entire
>>> career.
>>> 5. did you know? you can change the parameters of sounds on the MPC,
>>> using parameters like attack, decay, sustain and release, to alter your
>>> sounds
>>> 6. you can load more than 9 samples into your MPC. i know, it's
>>> confusing, because there are only 9 buttons, but, my understanding is that
>>> these buttons can actually be assigned to different sounds, and over the
>>> course of several albums, you could use different sounds on EVERY ALBUM or
>>> even every song
>>>
>>> i realize im not from the same background as people producing footwork,
>>> but i am 100% confident that a manual is provided for the MPC series
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Clint Anderson
>>> Systems Engineer
>>>
>>> On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 4:36 PM, kent williams <chaircrusher@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Who are you and where are you from? If you were African-American and
>>>> lived in Chicago, you might not like Footwork either, but I doubt you'd
>>>> belittle the entire genre. You're allowed your opinion, but your reaction
>>>> rubbed me the wrong way; you made it sound like the people making that
>>>> music were getting away with something.
>>>>
>>>> I don't live in Chicago but I go their a fair amount and know the music
>>>> scene there fairly well; the one thing I know is that it's serious, and
>>>> highly competitive. No one gets away with making mediocre music; any
>>>> Footwork tracks you're likely to hear released on e.g. Planet Mu is not
>>>> going to be half-assed. You may not like it, it may not speak to your
>>>> condition, but to criticize it that way makes me think you're just hearing
>>>> it, not listening to it.
>>>>
>>>> And you're under no obligation to like it or listen to it. There's too
>>>> much music and life's too short to listen to things you don't enjoy.
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 12:41 PM Jared Dunne <22tape@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> "To say "The genre that sounds like some kid forgot to add a snare to
>>>>> his half-assed Fruity Loops rap instrumental" is to dismiss a whole musical
>>>>> culture based on a very shallow listening experience, and no understanding
>>>>> of the culture in which it grew up."
>>>>>
>>>>> Careful, silly-pants Kent, you're walking the ignorant line yourself,
>>>>> and sounding like an academic from the burbs who's just trying to relate.
>>>>> You don't know me or where I'm from. If I'm from the same musical culture
>>>>> and the same socio-economic background as most peeps who make Footwork, am
>>>>> I still ignorant and shallow? Am I allowed to have an opinion then? Good,
>>>>> because I am. And most Footwork sucks. And I don't have to put "IMO"
>>>>> because I am the one saying it, and it's obviously my opinion. I much
>>>>> prefer Bluegrass.
>>>>>
>>>>> Now, hugs all around!
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 10:38 AM, kent williams <
>>>>> chaircrusher@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Every genre defines conventions. Every genre, furthermore demands a
>>>>>> different sort of listening if you're going to understand and enjoy it. To
>>>>>> say "The genre that sounds like some kid forgot to add a snare to his
>>>>>> half-assed Fruity Loops rap instrumental" is to dismiss a whole musical
>>>>>> culture based on a very shallow listening experience, and no understanding
>>>>>> of the culture in which it grew up.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Juke/Footwork music is very much the product of kids with cracked
>>>>>> copies of Fruity Loops; they work with the tools they have. The motivation
>>>>>> was to make music whose purpose is to accompany footwork dancing, which is
>>>>>> competetive, athletic and intense. The idea is to have the freshest,
>>>>>> trickiest rhythm, often played back on shitty boomboxes or Frankenstein
>>>>>> sound systems.. Footwork, like Jit in Detroit, is both dance and stylized
>>>>>> warfare; it sublimates the violence and frustration of life in "Chiraq."
>>>>>> It is something positive in an environment where people are confronted
>>>>>> daily with unrelenting negative things.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> There's a billion footwork tracks and thousands of people making it.
>>>>>> Inevitably most of it is not very good, but like any other genre, when it's
>>>>>> good it's great.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It's OK not to like musical styles. I bet you're not so hot on
>>>>>> bluegrass music as well. But like my grandmother always told me about cream
>>>>>> corn, "it's better to say you don't care for it than say you hate it."
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mon, Mar 23, 2015 at 12:26 PM David Bohan <madvlad00@gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Kent,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Why does Jared have to be ignorant to not like Footwork? It seems
>>>>>>> like Jared just thinks this kind of music does not require much effort or
>>>>>>> much of it is the same.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I listened to the compilation album "Bangs & Works Vol. 1" and have
>>>>>>> found his sentiment to be true for most of the tracks on that release, with
>>>>>>> some exceptions of course.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Now Jlin's release here is much more experimental and fresh sounding
>>>>>>> than the long tracks of TV show themes spread out over lazy beats.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Mon, Mar 23, 2015 at 1:23 PM, Jared Dunne <22tape@gmail.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Ignorant or silly? Either way, I can't help myself, Kent!
>>>>>>>> Honestly, Jlin's stuff isn't that bad. But for some reason it all sounds a
>>>>>>>> bit unfinished to me. But if peeps want to call it minimal, so be it!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Mon, Mar 23, 2015 at 12:18 PM, kent williams <
>>>>>>>> chaircrusher@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Jared, stop being ignorant.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Mar 23, 2015 at 11:04 AM Jared Dunne <22tape@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Ah yes, Footwork. The genre that sounds like some kid forgot to
>>>>>>>>>> add a snare to his half-assed Fruity Loops rap instrumental. Yay world!
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Mar 23, 2015 at 10:51 AM, David Bohan <
>>>>>>>>>> madvlad00@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I haven't heard of "Footwork"... is this a new genre of music or
>>>>>>>>>>> something?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> The tracks you linked to sound interesting to say the least.
>>>>>>>>>>> Find it also curious that Jlin works at a steel mill in Gary, Indiana...
>>>>>>>>>>> Not much music prides itself on coming from Indiana
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Mar 23, 2015 at 11:29 AM, kent williams <
>>>>>>>>>>> chaircrusher@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm surprised footwork/juke hasn't been a bigger thing on the
>>>>>>>>>>>> IDM list. This new record on Planet Mu is revelatory.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.planet.mu/discography/ZIQ356
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>> 22tape/jared dunne
>>>>>>>>>> listen <http://22tape.com>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> 22tape/jared dunne
>>>>>>>> listen <http://22tape.com>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> 22tape/jared dunne
>>>>> listen <http://22tape.com>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
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