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From:
Clint Anderson
To:
kent williams
Cc:
Jared Dunne , David Bohan , do id
Date:
Fri, 8 May 2015 13:12:35 -0500
Subject:
Re: Jlin album out.
Msg-Id:
<CAFhVXM_KQAH4HHdYEQgK5OZdu0EizMUX8cAeftRLWcR4MU-FEA@mail.gmail.com>
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disclaimer: don't get too pissed off, i am trolling to some degree here :) just tried to listen to jlin's dark energy and gave up .... here are some tips for footwork producers: 1. even your MPC has velocity control, that means that individual hits/notes/etc can actually be at different volumes from one another 2. the MPC can actually play samples at different pitches, in fact, you can create what are called 'melodies' consisting of two or more notes at different frequencies 3. for many decades now, devices known as 'effects' have been made available, many of which are built into your MPC -- for fun, trying applying an 'effect' to one of the sounds in your 'song' -- the results can be fascinating and are very popular in most every genre. 4. drum sounds -- did you know? you can load different drum sounds into your MPC. that's right, now, not every song has to use the same hi-hat, snare, and bassdrum, on every single one of your albums, for your entire career. 5. did you know? you can change the parameters of sounds on the MPC, using parameters like attack, decay, sustain and release, to alter your sounds 6. you can load more than 9 samples into your MPC. i know, it's confusing, because there are only 9 buttons, but, my understanding is that these buttons can actually be assigned to different sounds, and over the course of several albums, you could use different sounds on EVERY ALBUM or even every song i realize im not from the same background as people producing footwork, but i am 100% confident that a manual is provided for the MPC series Clint Anderson Systems Engineer On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 4:36 PM, kent williams <chaircrusher@gmail.com> wrote:
quoted 139 lines Who are you and where are you from? If you were African-American and> Who are you and where are you from? If you were African-American and > lived in Chicago, you might not like Footwork either, but I doubt you'd > belittle the entire genre. You're allowed your opinion, but your reaction > rubbed me the wrong way; you made it sound like the people making that > music were getting away with something. > > I don't live in Chicago but I go their a fair amount and know the music > scene there fairly well; the one thing I know is that it's serious, and > highly competitive. No one gets away with making mediocre music; any > Footwork tracks you're likely to hear released on e.g. Planet Mu is not > going to be half-assed. You may not like it, it may not speak to your > condition, but to criticize it that way makes me think you're just hearing > it, not listening to it. > > And you're under no obligation to like it or listen to it. There's too > much music and life's too short to listen to things you don't enjoy. > > On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 12:41 PM Jared Dunne <22tape@gmail.com> wrote: > >> "To say "The genre that sounds like some kid forgot to add a snare to his >> half-assed Fruity Loops rap instrumental" is to dismiss a whole musical >> culture based on a very shallow listening experience, and no understanding >> of the culture in which it grew up." >> >> Careful, silly-pants Kent, you're walking the ignorant line yourself, and >> sounding like an academic from the burbs who's just trying to relate. You >> don't know me or where I'm from. If I'm from the same musical culture and >> the same socio-economic background as most peeps who make Footwork, am I >> still ignorant and shallow? Am I allowed to have an opinion then? Good, >> because I am. And most Footwork sucks. And I don't have to put "IMO" >> because I am the one saying it, and it's obviously my opinion. I much >> prefer Bluegrass. >> >> Now, hugs all around! >> >> On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 10:38 AM, kent williams <chaircrusher@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >>> Every genre defines conventions. Every genre, furthermore demands a >>> different sort of listening if you're going to understand and enjoy it. To >>> say "The genre that sounds like some kid forgot to add a snare to his >>> half-assed Fruity Loops rap instrumental" is to dismiss a whole musical >>> culture based on a very shallow listening experience, and no understanding >>> of the culture in which it grew up. >>> >>> Juke/Footwork music is very much the product of kids with cracked copies >>> of Fruity Loops; they work with the tools they have. The motivation was to >>> make music whose purpose is to accompany footwork dancing, which is >>> competetive, athletic and intense. The idea is to have the freshest, >>> trickiest rhythm, often played back on shitty boomboxes or Frankenstein >>> sound systems.. Footwork, like Jit in Detroit, is both dance and stylized >>> warfare; it sublimates the violence and frustration of life in "Chiraq." >>> It is something positive in an environment where people are confronted >>> daily with unrelenting negative things. >>> >>> There's a billion footwork tracks and thousands of people making it. >>> Inevitably most of it is not very good, but like any other genre, when it's >>> good it's great. >>> >>> It's OK not to like musical styles. I bet you're not so hot on bluegrass >>> music as well. But like my grandmother always told me about cream corn, >>> "it's better to say you don't care for it than say you hate it." >>> >>> On Mon, Mar 23, 2015 at 12:26 PM David Bohan <madvlad00@gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Kent, >>>> >>>> Why does Jared have to be ignorant to not like Footwork? It seems like >>>> Jared just thinks this kind of music does not require much effort or much >>>> of it is the same. >>>> >>>> I listened to the compilation album "Bangs & Works Vol. 1" and have >>>> found his sentiment to be true for most of the tracks on that release, with >>>> some exceptions of course. >>>> >>>> Now Jlin's release here is much more experimental and fresh sounding >>>> than the long tracks of TV show themes spread out over lazy beats. >>>> >>>> On Mon, Mar 23, 2015 at 1:23 PM, Jared Dunne <22tape@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Ignorant or silly? Either way, I can't help myself, Kent! Honestly, >>>>> Jlin's stuff isn't that bad. But for some reason it all sounds a bit >>>>> unfinished to me. But if peeps want to call it minimal, so be it! >>>>> >>>>> On Mon, Mar 23, 2015 at 12:18 PM, kent williams < >>>>> chaircrusher@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Jared, stop being ignorant. >>>>>> >>>>>> On Mon, Mar 23, 2015 at 11:04 AM Jared Dunne <22tape@gmail.com> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Ah yes, Footwork. The genre that sounds like some kid forgot to add >>>>>>> a snare to his half-assed Fruity Loops rap instrumental. Yay world! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Mon, Mar 23, 2015 at 10:51 AM, David Bohan <madvlad00@gmail.com> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I haven't heard of "Footwork"... is this a new genre of music or >>>>>>>> something? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The tracks you linked to sound interesting to say the least. Find >>>>>>>> it also curious that Jlin works at a steel mill in Gary, Indiana... Not >>>>>>>> much music prides itself on coming from Indiana >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Mon, Mar 23, 2015 at 11:29 AM, kent williams < >>>>>>>> chaircrusher@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I'm surprised footwork/juke hasn't been a bigger thing on the IDM >>>>>>>>> list. This new record on Planet Mu is revelatory. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> http://www.planet.mu/discography/ZIQ356 >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> 22tape/jared dunne >>>>>>> listen <http://22tape.com> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> 22tape/jared dunne >>>>> listen <http://22tape.com> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >> >> >> -- >> 22tape/jared dunne >> listen <http://22tape.com> >> >