Before Acid Pro, I did a whole bunch of tracks in Sound Forge. I'd figure
out the number of samples in a 4-beat measures, create that much silence,
and turn on the selection grid in Sound Forge so I could see where the
beats were, and paste/mix samples in. Once I had some basic patterns and
sounds, I'd make copies and fuck them up, and string them out and paste-mix
other loops into the master mix.
I'm really comfortable working directly with waveforms. It's a lot easier
these days with other tools, but I liked that method better than the other
options of the time, which were trackers.
Though I did do trackers to generate loops that I'd arrange in Acid.
On Wed, Mar 25, 2015 at 4:16 PM Eric Fairbanks <eric.p.fairbanks@gmail.com>
wrote:
quoted 85 lines Ah man, Acid Pro. That's exactly what I was picturing. I've heard of
> Ah man, Acid Pro. That's exactly what I was picturing. I've heard of
> musicians who work like that, but it sounds like a nightmare. Might as well
> compose music in a video editor at that point IMO.
>
> On Wed, Mar 25, 2015 at 5:09 PM kent williams <chaircrusher@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> I did it kind of as a dare for myself. I was working in Acid Pro, and I
>> cut the break into chunks, and then looped a bar or two bars, and
>> copy/paste bits into the loop until it feels full. Then move on to the
>> next measure.
>>
>> It wasn't hard, but it made me hate those particular sounds by the time I
>> was done.
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Mar 25, 2015 at 3:44 PM Eric Fairbanks <
>> eric.p.fairbanks@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Kent, that's nuts. I can't imagine working with sampled breaks in an
>>> audio editor. (well, I suppose I can, but it sounds like a serious
>>> headache) My recent jam has been writing LUA scripts that
>>> generate/transform patterns in Renoise that re-arrange cut up breakbeats.
>>> Editing and manipulating breaks and sequences in a tracker at 180+ BPM
>>> 8/16LPB is work enough. Cutting up breaks in an audio editor represents a
>>> level of long-term focus and dedication that I'm unfamiliar with.
>>>
>>> Totally hypothetical, but if Jenkinson handed me a spec for some
>>> beatmangling software, I'd happily implement it in return for some spastic
>>> Squarepusher-brand breakcore. >.>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Mar 25, 2015 at 4:24 PM kent williams <chaircrusher@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I'm not sure I'd call it piss-weak. Not sure if I like it yet, but I
>>>> enjoy the melodic content. It sounds like he's using the Eventide effects
>>>> rack as a synthesizer again -- that buzzy foreground sound, which comes
>>>> from playing bass through it.
>>>>
>>>> Closest contemporary comparison is the PC Music stuff, which is
>>>> manically shiny in a similar way.
>>>>
>>>> You can't fault him for trying to do something that sounds different.
>>>>
>>>> As regards the Amen break, I did a track years ago that involved
>>>> loading the Amen break as a sample, and then cutting and arranging it so
>>>> every bar was different, across 5 minutes. As you can imagine this amounted
>>>> to about 8 hours of painstaking zoomed-in editing.
>>>>
>>>> Ever since doing that, I'm allergic to the Amen. I don't mind if people
>>>> use it in their tracks, but if I load it a sampler and start messing with
>>>> it, I start feeling sad and wishing it would go away.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 7:21 AM CRAIG SIMPSON <craignorms@hotmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> This is pis* weak. Hes making music that sounds like its all been
>>>>> sampled from an arcade or funfair. Hes given up on the amen break. It's a
>>>>> tragedy.
>>>>>
>>>>> Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2015 22:06:04 -0700
>>>>> From: gwrenchxx@sbcglobal.net
>>>>> To: idm@hyperreal.org
>>>>> Subject: Fwd: Re: Jlin album out.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --Forwarded Message Attachment--
>>>>> Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2015 21:58:47 -0700
>>>>> From: gwrenchxx@sbcglobal.net
>>>>> To: 313@hyperreal.org
>>>>> Subject: Re: Jlin album out.
>>>>>
>>>>> I've had to review a 12" or two for the radio station where I DJ, and
>>>>> I've never heard anything that appealed to me in the least.
>>>>>
>>>>> kent williams wrote:
>>>>> > I'm surprised footwork/juke hasn't been a bigger thing on the IDM
>>>>> > list. This new record on Planet Mu is revelatory.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > http://www.planet.mu/discography/ZIQ356
>>>>>
>>>>>