On Mon, 29 Sep 1997, szalemandre wrote:
quoted 2 lines the problem is this list is made up of entirely too many music> the problem is this list is made up of entirely too many music
> listeners, and not enough musicians.
if that's an insult directed at me, i have more appreciation for more
varied types of music than most musicians will ever have in their whole
life. from your lack of meaningful input, i'd have to catagorize you into
that group.
"that's no bullshit, neither." i spend a good majority of my non-rent,
non-utility, etc. income on exploring different types of music. i read and
write reviews. i lurk more than post. when i read ignoramuses fighting
over which group is better, for reasons that are just laughable, my blood
boils.
if you're going to compare musicians, have a base that is rational. if
bjoerk and cylob have anything in common, it's that they plug their
instruments into the wall and enjoy it. that's about where any discussion
or comparison of their sound starts and ends.
their employment situation outside of the music has no bearing whatsoever.
e.g., plug, et al. will not change because they get paid by nothing
records.
IDM (and other "underground" music) lesson #4:
there is no conspiracy to take away the good music we all like to listen
to and have it replaced by evil record producers. buy and listen to what
you like.
for me, this lesson was the hardest to learn. once i got over my paranoia
i was a free man. you folks don't have to be slaves, either.
quoted 1 line nobody has a fucking clue.> nobody has a fucking clue.
least of all you, by your heavy-handed attempt to jump on a high horse!
i've been here awhile and have seen this masked thread before. i think i
have a clue and that i have a right to voice it.
quoted 1 line everybody chill.> everybody chill.
where's your music, mr. musician? what insight can you give that we lack?
quoted 1 line it's music when you get it into your hands or into your ears.> it's music when you get it into your hands or into your ears.
um, thanks for the feel-good, bumper-sticker, meaningnless idm quote of
the year. still doesn't address why this "mainstream" vs. "underground"
thread keeps popping up, which i think has more to do with the kids trying
to establish a pecking order than any real desire to discuss idm or music
in general.
i think when non-music thread participating-people here admit *truthfully*
why they post, which is just to get attention and throw nasty words at
each other like little children, there will be a much healthier climate on
the list. then again, probably not.
don't know why i bother anymore. this used to be a quality, low-noise
list. i should join the ambient list again -- at least when they had
disagreements, it was over something meaningful.
alex