On Sat, 30 Aug 1997, Marie Kacmarek wrote:
quoted 10 lines Christina:>
> Christina:
> >Not even. Green Velvet and Motorbass piss on this from a great height.
> >(And the list could go on but this is certainly not the forum for house
> >music so I won't.)
>
> Why is this not a forum for house music? You're talkin' to a grrrrrrrrrrrl born in bred in Chicago where Cajual, Derrick Carter, Frankie Knuckles, Mark Grant, Ralphi Rosario, Lil Louis, Larry Heard all left/leave their imprint. We were breakin' it down in '87 '88 at Fantasy (Lil Louis' club on south Michigan) and the original Warehouse with FK when you were still listening to Depeche Mode. Sorry, but there's some sublime, deep shit goin' on round these parts. IDM would have taken a completely different turn without House as an influencing factor. I will ALWAYS tip my hat to 4-on-the-floor thank you. BTW, don't you think Motorbass and alot of the French stuff that is coming out lately is majorly influenced by the Chicago trax sound??? As we say here, " I guess dey pissin on theyself den, ah-ight"
>
> Marie
>
Please, spare me the holier than thou history of house. I'm sure there
are few people on this list who would deny the importance or influence of
it on a lot of the artists discussed here. That doesn't mean though that
they're lining up at the Tunnel on Saturday nights or petitioning for the
return of the Paradise Garage. The points I miserably failed to make in
my previous post were that a.) I think there is such a thing as good
house music and b.) That The Way/The Deep doesn't fall into that category.
I don't have too many house records, but almost all of them make me go
'Whoah, what the fuck...' as much as my more 'IDM' oriented collection.
The Deep is like 11 minutes long and that beat sounds like it took, oh,
one minute to conceive and program. That leaves 10 minutes for them to
come up with that weak ass bassline, and drift some ambient-y GC synth
patches over the top. Oh wait, don't forget the strings. And then for
The Way, they drop the bassline, and add a booming kick, and some vocal
sample about feelin' love. So that's what, 22 minutes of music that took
five minutes to make? It probably took longer to cash the check. And you
wonder why people diss house.
As for discussing house here, well I think you'll find that the barometer
lies somewhere between 'it sucks' and 'it's boring'. The most common
complaint being that it's too repetitive. (In case you haven't noticed,
a lot of the people on this list are just smitten with drum programming.)
Occasionally a "can anyone recommend some good house compilations" thread
pops up but I suspect most of those end up answered in private by folks who
fear exposing their dirty little secret. Whatever. Personally I'd
rather get my shake on to house, than to talk about it. But if you're the
chatty type, be prepared for a lot of fan mail.
-Christina