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Stray
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Date:
Sun, 1 Jun 1997 01:17:52 +0100
Subject:
(idm) NIN when will it end.
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Trent Reznor is not original, Trent Reznor is not 'underground' nor is he using 'underground techniques'. There is no such fucking thing as 'underground techniques'. Technique is not meaning, moreover technique does not create the audience. We all like music, some of the sadder amongst us (including me) are suckers for certain sounds. I like EMU drum sounds, I've gone right off 808's. But only the truly sad bastard would say I like music made solely on such and such kit in such and such way. Anyway, Trent Reznor is an oppurtunist with not that much to say lyrically or music. To call him 'Industrial' is an insult to other Industrial artists (Coil, PTV, Nurse with wound, Pigface, Foetus) who are a million miles from him composition wise, and artistically are a damn sight more talented. Trent comes from the Ministry, Revolting Cocks school of (so called) Industrial music, which is actually thrash metal with keyboards and drum machines. NIN is a lot of loud ROCK music , it is NOT dance music, and for that reason has no place on this list. Just 'cos the bastard uses a drum machine doesn't make him IDM. I was once a huge fan of NIN (pretty hate machine). But everything since then has been pretty, well, childish sub spinal tap posturing bollocks. His videos and music these days make me laugh like a dog. As a source of humour he is great, as a source of musical inspiration he's a joke. When he say's the word 'fuck' in a song it sounds like a 14 year old schoolkid trying desperately hard to be naughty so as to impress his friends. It's music for Beavis and Butthead and not, frankly, for real grown ups. When ppl who obviously have zero writing talent make a fortune out of swearing and making loud noises whilst talented artist go unnoticed does actually piss a lot of us off. Why the fuck should any of us apologise for that. Blame the major labels and the huge lumbering media machines that make damn sure everyone on the planet gets exposed to their product. Cheers, Stray ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Deconstructed cinema - The forefinger of video art. Home to patronising bigoted opinions and music that goes 'blip , bzzzt, TING!' ===============================================================================