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From:
Tamara Palmer
To:
William L Samuels
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Date:
Fri, 28 Jun 1996 10:25:44 -0700 (PDT)
Subject:
(idm) Re: Organic '96 review
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William Samuels, my new favorite buddy, politely replied:
quoted 5 lines before and they were great both times. You mentioned that they play> before and they were great both times. You mentioned that they play > basically the same set. What do you expect, they only have one album? All > the other bands at Organic have more albums. Also, the Chemical Brothers > haven't been around that long. What maybe a year and a half? I think if I > saw ANY band four times within a year, their set wouldn't vary that much.
I saw them four times within TWO years, and the set didn't vary that much. Also, the fact that they've been around for more than a year and a half (their first ep coming out in '93, in fact) has already been mentioned to correct you.
quoted 6 lines I met someone at the show, who saw them the night before in SF. They said> I met someone at the show, who saw them the night before in SF. They said > that the show up there was different, a different set. Tom and Ed > Chemical were jumping around during their whole performance, they > certainly didn't look bored. I think they did a great job, just cause > they didn't say anything like "hey LA you were great" or" we are glad to be > here". Doesn't mean they don't give a shit about being there.
You're right, it was speculation on my part that they didn't give a shit about being there -- speculation that was corroborated by several of the artists on the bill that I discussed this with. Maybe they did care about being there, though it wasn't overly apparent to me.
quoted 6 lines You also said you liked them a while back and that you feel like they> You also said you liked them a while back and that you feel like they > haven't evolved. Again look how long they have been around, are they > suppose to evolve every 9 months. Have you heard their new remix of Dave > Clarke's - No One's Driving? Perhaps you are getting bored because there > are so many Chemical Brother rip-off bands coming from LA. I have heard > SO many bands copying their style and most of them seem to be from LA.
Why do you bring this up? Because I live in LA? Look, they are welcome to play the same sounds and songs for however long they feel like it. I'm just saying that I'm not going for it any more. I gave the Chemicals a hell of a lot of support leading up to and including their album (probably more than any other American journalist, because I wrote about them for several magazines), but I have gotten to the point where I am putting my foot down and saying that I have had enough of them. We will see if they stand the test of time and how (if??) they evolve...it looks like burnout to me, and Loops of Fury and their newer material (like the Dave Clarke mix) haven't convinced me otherwise. You may not agree (and obviously don't), and that's fine -- we have different opinions. What seems kind of fucked up to me is that you will go ahead and attack my employer in an attempt to discredit me (see below paragraph). I think that's very childish. I am not trying to represent myself as a top authority or anything...if it's ever come off that way it has not been my intention AT ALL. And I resent you insinuating that my opinion has no validity because I work for a magazine that you think isn't good. I don't think I have the supreme opinion of the universe but I do think that I have something to say and I will stand behind it, just as you stand behind yours.
quoted 5 lines I see you write for URB, how come they are so behind. My favorite> I see you write for URB, how come they are so behind. My favorite > magazine is MUZIK, whenever I pick up URB it seems like such OLD news. I > am glad that there is at least one decent American Magazine, trying to > cover the techno scene. Why should anyone ever buy URB when we have IDM > and Muzik? I hope that URB can improve or catch up.
Which American magazine is that, William? MUZIK? I've got news for you, son... MUZIK is English. I don't even want to get into grappling with you about URB. I realize not everyone thinks it's a great magazine, or even a good magazine. I don't know when you last read it and I don't really even care. If you had any sense you'd realize that URB cannot possibly be as timely as IDM because it takes a few months to put together (where are IDM's dazzling graphics?). IDM can be a terrific resource, but you can't lump them into the same category because they serve different purposes and cover different spectrums. IDM (the music) is only a small part of what we cover, and if you've paid attention to the last couple issues and pay attention in the future you'll notice that I am doiny my best to not only involve this type of music more but to actually bring in some of IDM's best critics to write (like Alan Parry, Chris Hilker and Aran Parillo -- yes I am paying attention to what you all are writing). I have only been working there a few months (after writing for a few years) and I feel that I am bringing positive changes to URB...but we'll never make everyone happy and that's totally cool. As for MUZIK, well, they are owned by England's biggest publisher (I think) called IPC, which is also responsible for music mags like NME and Melody Maker. We are independently owned and fighting for survival. I think we do a good job given our resources and while we might not have the timeliness of a MUZIK, I think we put out a nicer-looking product that's more street-level accessible and personal. That being said, I read MUZIK too. Anyway, I've wasted FAR too much time replying to you, but I definitely saw that as a completely lame and unfair personal attack...just because I dare to have an opinion on this list, same as you.
quoted 3 lines cheers,> > cheers, >
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