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2000-09-21 11:38Ben Hatchelt [idm] Akai S1000
└─ 2000-09-21 14:03Kent williams Re: [idm] Akai S1000
2000-09-21 18:20jimg [idm] re: Akai S1000
2000-09-22 16:28steve Re: [idm] Akai S1000
2000-09-22 16:36Ben Hatchelt Re: [idm] Akai S1000
2000-09-30 15:00daniel lee Re: [idm] Akai S1000
└─ 2000-09-22 15:31Kent williams Re: [idm] Akai S1000
└─ 2000-09-22 15:38Josh Davison Re: [idm] Akai S1000
├─ 2000-09-22 16:21Catfish Gil Re: [idm] Akai S1000
└─ 2000-09-22 16:23Ryan Heard RE: [idm] Akai S1000
└─ 2000-09-22 16:46Josh Davison RE: [idm] Akai S1000
2000-09-30 17:44daniel lee Re: [idm] Akai S1000
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2000-09-21 11:38Ben HatcheltA friend of mine is selling his Akai S1000. Does anyone know what it does and how much I s
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A friend of mine is selling his Akai S1000. Does anyone know what it does and how much I should pay for it?! Many thanks! ____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2000-09-21 14:03Kent williamsOn Thu, 21 Sep 2000, [iso-8859-1] Ben Hatchelt wrote: > A friend of mine is selling his Ak
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On Thu, 21 Sep 2000, [iso-8859-1] Ben Hatchelt wrote:
quoted 3 lines A friend of mine is selling his Akai S1000. Does> A friend of mine is selling his Akai S1000. Does > anyone know what it does and how much I should pay for > it?!
Depends on the configuration. Given that a brand new S2000 is about $700 now, I'd say no more than $200 for a base model, more if it's got the 8 output option and/or the memory expansion. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2000-09-21 18:20jimgabout akai samplers: http://www.cs.ruu.nl/~jules/Akai/ more: http://machines.hyperreal.org
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about akai samplers: http://www.cs.ruu.nl/~jules/Akai/ more: http://machines.hyperreal.org/manufacturers/Akai/info/akai.samplers how much should you pay: http://www.midiwall.com/usedgear/index_org.html -JimG <skoop@slackers.net> --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2000-09-22 16:28steveA friend of mine bouhg tan s1100 (loaded s1000) that came with an expander (something I di
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A friend of mine bouhg tan s1100 (loaded s1000) that came with an expander (something I didn't know akai made) which is basically another s1100 w/o the display eyc. and it has to be controled from the other s1100 connected by scsi..anyway he paid $675 for the lot. The ram is very expensive. but it does sound better than an s2000 and is easier to get around on. we put it side by side w/my s2000 and the difference was quite obious. it just sounds fuller, warmer, whatever. But I still wouldn't buy one. Ther are too many good expandable feature packed samplers out there for a bit more money. steve ----------
quoted 5 lines From: "daniel lee" <daniellee@trashaesthetics.freeserve.co.uk>>From: "daniel lee" <daniellee@trashaesthetics.freeserve.co.uk> >To: <idm@hyperreal.org> >Subject: Re: [idm] Akai S1000 >Date: Sat, Sep 30, 2000, 7:00 AM >
quoted 33 lines It depends pretty much on how much RAM there is. It can only use> It depends pretty much on how much RAM there is. It can only use > proprietary Akai RAM. Akai wanted £95 for 3/4 of Megabyte for S950 RAM. > Somewhere some firms sell RAM that will work for a lot less but it is still > really expensive. > > The S1000 is a far better machine than the S2000 and subsequently costs more > than a new S2000. I think it sounds far more gritty, I'd definitely get one > if I could afford to. It is a shame it won't work with Steinberg Re-Cyle > though. > > >> On Thu, 21 Sep 2000, [iso-8859-1] Ben Hatchelt wrote: >> > A friend of mine is selling his Akai S1000. Does >> > anyone know what it does and how much I should pay for >> > it?! >> >> Depends on the configuration. Given that a brand new S2000 is >> about $700 now, I'd say no more than $200 for a base model, more >> if it's got the 8 output option and/or the memory expansion. >> >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org >> For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org >> >> > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > >
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2000-09-22 16:36Ben Hatchelthummmmm...dddiiirrtttttt! Thanks for all the help people! --- Catfish Gil <gyaker@fragment
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hummmmm...dddiiirrtttttt! Thanks for all the help people! --- Catfish Gil <gyaker@fragment.com> wrote: >
quoted 57 lines isn't "sounds like dirt" one of the aims of the> isn't "sounds like dirt" one of the aims of the > current crop of IDM? > > > On Fri, 22 Sep 2000, Josh Davison wrote: > > > the S2000 and MPC2000 both use inferior AD/DA > converters to the > > S3000/MPC3000 ... i don't know about the S1000 but > since that was at one > > point one of the "flagship" samplers, i would > assume the converters are > > better sound quality ... ease of use is an > entirely different matter > > however > > > > but it doesn't matter how easy to use it is if it > sounds like dirt IMHO > > > > -- > > String Theory : Digital Music for Humans > > http://www.enteract.com/~yoshi/index.cgi > > > > > > On Fri, 22 Sep 2000, Kent williams wrote: > > > > > On Sat, 30 Sep 2000, daniel lee wrote: > > > > > > > > The S1000 is a far better machine than the > S2000 and subsequently costs more > > > > than a new S2000. I think it sounds far more > gritty, I'd definitely get one > > > > if I could afford to. It is a shame it won't > work with Steinberg Re-Cyle > > > > though. > > > > > > > You know I don't want to be a crank, and this is > all probably off topic, > > > but the S2000 is a significant upgrade to the > S1000 with respect to > > > OS and other features, and there really isn't > that much difference between > > > them in sound quality. And I'm a gear slut -- > you'll never in your > > > life see a used S1000 going for more than a > comparably equipped S2000. > > > > > > And the S1000 works fine with recycle, but > you're limited to MIDI transfers. > > > > > > If you really believe that the S1K is superior, > I'll sell you my S1000PB. > > > I can't get anyone else to buy it at any price! > > > > > > > > > >
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2000-09-30 15:00daniel leeIt depends pretty much on how much RAM there is. It can only use proprietary Akai RAM. Aka
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It depends pretty much on how much RAM there is. It can only use proprietary Akai RAM. Akai wanted £95 for 3/4 of Megabyte for S950 RAM. Somewhere some firms sell RAM that will work for a lot less but it is still really expensive. The S1000 is a far better machine than the S2000 and subsequently costs more than a new S2000. I think it sounds far more gritty, I'd definitely get one if I could afford to. It is a shame it won't work with Steinberg Re-Cyle though.
quoted 15 lines On Thu, 21 Sep 2000, [iso-8859-1] Ben Hatchelt wrote:> On Thu, 21 Sep 2000, [iso-8859-1] Ben Hatchelt wrote: > > A friend of mine is selling his Akai S1000. Does > > anyone know what it does and how much I should pay for > > it?! > > Depends on the configuration. Given that a brand new S2000 is > about $700 now, I'd say no more than $200 for a base model, more > if it's got the 8 output option and/or the memory expansion. > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > >
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2000-09-22 15:31Kent williamsOn Sat, 30 Sep 2000, daniel lee wrote: > > The S1000 is a far better machine than the S200
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quoted 6 lines The S1000 is a far better machine than the S2000 and subsequently costs more> > The S1000 is a far better machine than the S2000 and subsequently costs more > than a new S2000. I think it sounds far more gritty, I'd definitely get one > if I could afford to. It is a shame it won't work with Steinberg Re-Cyle > though. >
You know I don't want to be a crank, and this is all probably off topic, but the S2000 is a significant upgrade to the S1000 with respect to OS and other features, and there really isn't that much difference between them in sound quality. And I'm a gear slut -- you'll never in your life see a used S1000 going for more than a comparably equipped S2000. And the S1000 works fine with recycle, but you're limited to MIDI transfers. If you really believe that the S1K is superior, I'll sell you my S1000PB. I can't get anyone else to buy it at any price! --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2000-09-22 15:38Josh Davisonthe S2000 and MPC2000 both use inferior AD/DA converters to the S3000/MPC3000 ... i don't
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the S2000 and MPC2000 both use inferior AD/DA converters to the S3000/MPC3000 ... i don't know about the S1000 but since that was at one point one of the "flagship" samplers, i would assume the converters are better sound quality ... ease of use is an entirely different matter however but it doesn't matter how easy to use it is if it sounds like dirt IMHO -- String Theory : Digital Music for Humans http://www.enteract.com/~yoshi/index.cgi On Fri, 22 Sep 2000, Kent williams wrote:
quoted 24 lines On Sat, 30 Sep 2000, daniel lee wrote:> On Sat, 30 Sep 2000, daniel lee wrote: > > > > The S1000 is a far better machine than the S2000 and subsequently costs more > > than a new S2000. I think it sounds far more gritty, I'd definitely get one > > if I could afford to. It is a shame it won't work with Steinberg Re-Cyle > > though. > > > You know I don't want to be a crank, and this is all probably off topic, > but the S2000 is a significant upgrade to the S1000 with respect to > OS and other features, and there really isn't that much difference between > them in sound quality. And I'm a gear slut -- you'll never in your > life see a used S1000 going for more than a comparably equipped S2000. > > And the S1000 works fine with recycle, but you're limited to MIDI transfers. > > If you really believe that the S1K is superior, I'll sell you my S1000PB. > I can't get anyone else to buy it at any price! > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > >
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2000-09-22 16:21Catfish Gilisn't "sounds like dirt" one of the aims of the current crop of IDM? On Fri, 22 Sep 2000,
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isn't "sounds like dirt" one of the aims of the current crop of IDM? On Fri, 22 Sep 2000, Josh Davison wrote:
quoted 45 lines the S2000 and MPC2000 both use inferior AD/DA converters to the> the S2000 and MPC2000 both use inferior AD/DA converters to the > S3000/MPC3000 ... i don't know about the S1000 but since that was at one > point one of the "flagship" samplers, i would assume the converters are > better sound quality ... ease of use is an entirely different matter > however > > but it doesn't matter how easy to use it is if it sounds like dirt IMHO > > -- > String Theory : Digital Music for Humans > http://www.enteract.com/~yoshi/index.cgi > > > On Fri, 22 Sep 2000, Kent williams wrote: > > > On Sat, 30 Sep 2000, daniel lee wrote: > > > > > > The S1000 is a far better machine than the S2000 and subsequently costs more > > > than a new S2000. I think it sounds far more gritty, I'd definitely get one > > > if I could afford to. It is a shame it won't work with Steinberg Re-Cyle > > > though. > > > > > You know I don't want to be a crank, and this is all probably off topic, > > but the S2000 is a significant upgrade to the S1000 with respect to > > OS and other features, and there really isn't that much difference between > > them in sound quality. And I'm a gear slut -- you'll never in your > > life see a used S1000 going for more than a comparably equipped S2000. > > > > And the S1000 works fine with recycle, but you're limited to MIDI transfers. > > > > If you really believe that the S1K is superior, I'll sell you my S1000PB. > > I can't get anyone else to buy it at any price! > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org >
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2000-09-22 16:23Ryan Heardmmm dirt... (somethin' wrong?) Ryan Heard speaking of dirty.. my esi-32 is arriving next w
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mmm dirt... (somethin' wrong?) Ryan Heard speaking of dirty.. my esi-32 is arriving next week. Cleanliness is overrated. -----Original Message----- From: Josh Davison [mailto:yoshi@enteract.com] Sent: Friday, September 22, 2000 8:38 AM To: Kent williams Cc: daniel lee; idm@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [idm] Akai S1000 <snip> but it doesn't matter how easy to use it is if it sounds like dirt IMHO -- String Theory : Digital Music for Humans http://www.enteract.com/~yoshi/index.cgi --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2000-09-22 16:46Josh DavisonESIs sound clean clean clean ... at least my 4000 does, i thnk the 32 is similar to the 40
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ESIs sound clean clean clean ... at least my 4000 does, i thnk the 32 is similar to the 4000 except not as many fancy features... the nice thing is you can dirty stuff up by downsampling or external processing, although resampling is one severely lacking feature on all the ESI's (soon i upgrade to Emulator ... mmmm 8 creeeeamy outputs) anyway i like sounding dirty, but i also like having the option of NOT sounding dirty if i don't wanna. -- String Theory : Digital Music for Humans http://www.enteract.com/~yoshi/index.cgi On Fri, 22 Sep 2000, Ryan Heard wrote:
quoted 7 lines mmm dirt... (somethin' wrong?)> mmm dirt... (somethin' wrong?) > > Ryan Heard > > speaking of dirty.. my esi-32 is arriving next week. Cleanliness is > overrated. >
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2000-09-30 17:44daniel leeWell yes the dynamic range and signal to noise is inferior to s2000 but seeing as Akai's a
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Well yes the dynamic range and signal to noise is inferior to s2000 but seeing as Akai's are so poor in respect to fidelity compared to EMU's it is all academic. I've been told the filters and time stretch sound better in the way they degrade and colour the sound. But that could just be one of those stories people make up without justifying. Anyway the S2000 has that horrid 2x16 LCD doesn't it? And MIDI transfers how can you put up with that. I'd love an S1000PB. They are selling s2000's where i work for £350 with full RAM but i wouldn't get one.
quoted 18 lines the S2000 and MPC2000 both use inferior AD/DA converters to the> the S2000 and MPC2000 both use inferior AD/DA converters to the > S3000/MPC3000 ... i don't know about the S1000 but since that was at one > point one of the "flagship" samplers, i would assume the converters are > better sound quality ... ease of use is an entirely different matter > however > > but it doesn't matter how easy to use it is if it sounds like dirt IMHO > > -- > String Theory : Digital Music for Humans > http://www.enteract.com/~yoshi/index.cgi > > > On Fri, 22 Sep 2000, Kent williams wrote: > > > On Sat, 30 Sep 2000, daniel lee wrote: > > > > > > The S1000 is a far better machine than the S2000 and subsequently
costs more
quoted 1 line than a new S2000. I think it sounds far more gritty, I'd definitely> > > than a new S2000. I think it sounds far more gritty, I'd definitely
get one
quoted 1 line if I could afford to. It is a shame it won't work with Steinberg> > > if I could afford to. It is a shame it won't work with Steinberg
Re-Cyle
quoted 5 lines though.> > > though. > > > > > You know I don't want to be a crank, and this is all probably off topic, > > but the S2000 is a significant upgrade to the S1000 with respect to > > OS and other features, and there really isn't that much difference
between
quoted 4 lines them in sound quality. And I'm a gear slut -- you'll never in your> > them in sound quality. And I'm a gear slut -- you'll never in your > > life see a used S1000 going for more than a comparably equipped S2000. > > > > And the S1000 works fine with recycle, but you're limited to MIDI
transfers.
quoted 2 lines If you really believe that the S1K is superior, I'll sell you my> > > > If you really believe that the S1K is superior, I'll sell you my
S1000PB.
quoted 10 lines I can't get anyone else to buy it at any price!> > I can't get anyone else to buy it at any price! > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > > > > > >
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