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wow. sound like you had a real boring time. well that sucks for you. althought i'm not crazy about the atmosphere in rodan, the people who did show for signaldrift were cool, and there were a lot of people (which was surprising to me) that we didn't know who enjoyed the show as well. as for the dj who played the shitty techno music about 11p, that was me. also just to let you know, i wasn't playing techno. i was playing some new wave (new order, talking heads, esg) into some early 80's new york electro (jonzun crew, man parrish, hasim, etc) along w/ other shit that fit like paul hardcastle, lcd soundsystem, kraftwerk, spacepimp. that was my 80's set, and i'm real sorry that i didn't fit into your narrow little field of what idm dj's should do. so, boo hoo that you didn't have a good time and i apologise for the rest of us whose musical tastes start before the "artificial intelligence" comp came out, you little fucking crybaby. i'll tell you what, i'm gonna open for funkstorung @ the metro in chicago (illinois) in december. you can send me a playlist of what proper idm dj's are gonna play, and i'll put you on the list, and i'll buy you a drink or 2 as well. this is not me saying i have more $$$ than you or anything like that. i don't. i just want you to be satisfied, because people who whine about what other folks should be playing need to be placated. so, once again, on behalf of franz, john, brian foote and myself: WE'RE SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO SORRY. PLEASE FORGIVE US. easy, the rev. p.s., there's a new signaldrift record called 'set design' coming out on monday 31 october: Textura Magazine Artist: Signaldrift Title: Set Design Label: Consumers Research & Development Release Date: Oct 31 2005 Reviewed by: Ron Schepper Set Design finds Franz Buchholtz concocting ten breezy tracks in a follow-up to Girl, his earlier 2005 release on Audraglint. The new collection alternates four fully-developed compositions and six interludes, with the former not surprisingly registering more strongly. "?And Yet" initiates the album serenely with placid cascades of electric piano, until "Yellow Leaves" animates the mood with staccato pulses of typewriter clicks and reverberant thwacks. The piece gradually deepens with Buchholtz adding layer upon layer of echoing guitars, dubby voices, and thrumming percussion, the song never losing its dreamy character despite building forcefully. While the bucolic "De De" fashions an enchanting groove of buoyant pulses and washes, it?s bettered by the vibrant trance epic "Dutch Assassin" where an hypnotic flute melody loops over New Order bass lines and an infectiously percolating house pulse. Typical for the genre, the shorter pieces are meditative, hazy, and celestial, reflective in mood and filled with distinctive touches like backward guitar effects and heavenly harp swirls. A nostalgic, Boards of Canada feel colours "Children of the 70?s" with faint flute tones and hazy keyboard musings couched in crusty vinyl crackle. Press material describes Set Design as an album for "those post-club, late-night drives," and it?s a succinct and accurate characterization. Despite its uptempo moments, the mood is restrained and perhaps a bit too well-behaved: every time a longer dance track ups the intensity, an interlude follows to pull it back down to a becalmed level. The penultimate arrival, then, of "128" is especially welcome as its thirteen-minute duration provides ample opportunity for heat to develop?exactly what happens when Brian Foote?s guitars and Buchholtz?s electronics merge into propulsive streams of panoramic sweep.

quoted 74 lines From: incredible weirdo <incredible.weirdo@gmail.com>

>From: incredible weirdo <incredible.weirdo@gmail.com> >To: idm@hyperreal.org >Subject: Re: [idm] LASTNIGHT in Chicago >Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2005 11:44:23 -0500 > >Un petit request- >If you advertise a show starting at 9, start it at the latest at 10:30 or >so. And, when you do start it, let people know. >So, I went to this show (quoted below) last night. Showed up early (8:50 or >so), as I always do, to find most stools and tables filled with yuppies and >hipsters. I can certainly be accused of hipsterness myself, but yuppies are >another issue. Anywho, I inquire with the bartender about the music >tonight, >when it starts, blah blah - he doesn't know anything. No big deal. I have a >drink (a decent, tall Sapphire & tonic for only $6), lounge around and >people watch. Which gets dull quick, as yuppies aren't very fascinating. >Quotes of "He/she has such a good heart" and "So I was interviewing this >guy" abound. I have another drink. The music this whole while has obviously >been just the music the house plays in the background, and I can see the >musician setting up a mixer, keyboard, et cetera in front of the 'trippy' >visuals projected on the back wall. This makes me think it won't be long >until the music starts. >So, an hour passes. The place begins to fill to the brim with what is still >a yuppie/hipster (yupster?) meet market. The musicians setting up had >finished that and vanished. The music still seems to be the boring, >characterless, background 'loungy' electronic that the house had been >playing the whole time, though at one point it seemed someone raised the >volume. At about 11, I get tired of the noxious crowd and boring music, and >decide to leave. I use the restroom first, and upon exiting and proceeding >toward the front, I realize the "show" had started a great while ago, and >that increase in volume I heard was a DJ beginning to spin boring, shitty >techno - it most certainly wasn't IDM. The DJ himself looked quite bored >and >disinterested (I guess that's the way to seem cool these days, is to feign >disinterest). >It would have been helpful if the musicians or promoters had announced the >show's beginning, welcomed the audience and all that, that way when the >shitty was techno was just beginning, I would have known to leave then >instead of waiting another 45 minutes in vain for the artists to take the >stage. > I.W. >P.S. - to the person who posted the Hefty Records Event that was last night >at Sonoteque - please include the city in the subject line. If I had seen >that one flagged as in Chicago when I was quickly checking my email to see >if there were any shows yesterday, I would have been there instead. > > On 10/27/05, John Goelzer <johng@engberganderson.com> wrote: > > > > Signaldrift live pa (Wobblyhead, Consumers, Audraglint) > > Brian Foote dj (Nudge, Omco, Audraglint) > > Reverent Robert Sinewave dj (Consumers, Meiotic) > > BTS.WRKNG dj (Wobblyhead, WMSE 91.7FM) > > > > Rodan . 1530 N. Milwaukee Ave. > > Thursday, October 27 . 9:00pm > > 21 and over . NO COVER > > > > It's a kinda-sorta release party for Signaldrift's new Set Design > > full-length on Consumers. We'd love to see you! > > > > http://www.rodan.ws/ > > http://www.consumerslabel.net/ > > http://www.wobblyhead.com/ > > http://www.audraglint.com/ > > http://www.outwardmusic.com/ > > http://www.meioticpromotions.com/ > > http://www.myspace.com/btswrkng > > http://www.wmse.org/ > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > > > >

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For the record, I didn't hear any New Order, Talking Heads, Kraftwerk, or LCD Soundsystem, all of whom I love. I, the entire time I was there, heard not a single track with vocals, nor anything remotely 80's - that would certainly have kept my interest. Where you the first DJ up? "Around 11" could mean a few minutes before or after. And before you go making sudden judgements about me and my 'narrow minded' view of IDM and what IDM DJ's should spin, know I have no elitist, pretentious opinions on that. And stuff your "people who have musical tastes that started before Artificial Intelligence came out" - simply because I didn't like the boring electronic I heard by no means infers that I hate anything unrelated to Autechre. And I love 80's music because I actually love it, not for its 'kitsch' factor or to be dry and sardonic (who has 3 Bronski Beat albums on vinyl? Yes, that would be me). By calling names ("fucking crybaby"), you've automatically justified anything bad I may have had to say about the show. Don't be so sensitive and reactionary, I'm not the only critic in the world and I'm certainly not the only person who may not like a show. THE BIG POINTS - Please let the audience know when the show starts, and don't start it two hours late most certainly without letting anyone know. I.W. On 10/29/05, robert sinewave <robertsinewave@hotmail.com> wrote:

quoted 15 lines wow. sound like you had a real boring time. well that sucks for you.

> wow. sound like you had a real boring time. well that sucks for you. > althought i'm not crazy about the atmosphere in rodan, the people who did > show for signaldrift were cool, and there were a lot of people (which was > surprising to me) that we didn't know who enjoyed the show as well. > > as for the dj who played the shitty techno music about 11p, that was me. > also just to let you know, i wasn't playing techno. i was playing some new > wave (new order, talking heads, esg) into some early 80's new york electro > (jonzun crew, man parrish, hasim, etc) along w/ other shit that fit like > paul hardcastle, lcd soundsystem, kraftwerk, spacepimp. that was my 80's > set, and i'm real sorry that i didn't fit into your narrow little field of > what idm dj's should do. so, boo hoo that you didn't have a good time and > i > apologise for the rest of us whose musical tastes start before the > "artificial intelligence" comp came out, you little fucking crybaby.

well the, i don't know where the hell you were around 11p, and the dj who played his laptop before i did was playing more mainstream stuff and not techno, so i don't know what the fuck you were listening to, or where you might've been @ the time. and you're right i made a judgement 'cause it seems to me that whatever shitty techno you were listening to wasn't being played. if you said that my mixes weren't tight, i'd probably have to agree w/ you, and we would be here talking about this shit. so if your only complaint is that you had to sit in rodan for an hour, just like franz, john and i and watch yuppfest 2005, just like you did? too bad. it's where we had to play. sonotheque isn't that much better.

quoted 49 lines From: incredible weirdo <incredible.weirdo@gmail.com>

>From: incredible weirdo <incredible.weirdo@gmail.com> >To: idm@hyperreal.org >Subject: Re: [idm] LASTNIGHT in Chicago/Signaldrift >Date: Sat, 29 Oct 2005 16:49:34 -0500 > >For the record, I didn't hear any New Order, Talking Heads, Kraftwerk, or >LCD Soundsystem, all of whom I love. I, the entire time I was there, heard >not a single track with vocals, nor anything remotely 80's - that would >certainly have kept my interest. Where you the first DJ up? "Around 11" >could mean a few minutes before or after. And before you go making sudden >judgements about me and my 'narrow minded' view of IDM and what IDM DJ's >should spin, know I have no elitist, pretentious opinions on that. And >stuff >your "people who have musical tastes that started before Artificial >Intelligence came out" - simply because I didn't like the boring electronic >I heard by no means infers that I hate anything unrelated to Autechre. And >I >love 80's music because I actually love it, not for its 'kitsch' factor or >to be dry and sardonic (who has 3 Bronski Beat albums on vinyl? Yes, that >would be me). By calling names ("fucking crybaby"), you've automatically >justified anything bad I may have had to say about the show. Don't be so >sensitive and reactionary, I'm not the only critic in the world and I'm >certainly not the only person who may not like a show. >THE BIG POINTS - Please let the audience know when the show starts, and >don't start it two hours late most certainly without letting anyone know. > I.W. >On 10/29/05, robert sinewave <robertsinewave@hotmail.com> wrote: > > > wow. sound like you had a real boring time. well that sucks for you. > > althought i'm not crazy about the atmosphere in rodan, the people who >did > > show for signaldrift were cool, and there were a lot of people (which >was > > surprising to me) that we didn't know who enjoyed the show as well. > > > > as for the dj who played the shitty techno music about 11p, that was me. > > also just to let you know, i wasn't playing techno. i was playing some >new > > wave (new order, talking heads, esg) into some early 80's new york >electro > > (jonzun crew, man parrish, hasim, etc) along w/ other shit that fit like > > paul hardcastle, lcd soundsystem, kraftwerk, spacepimp. that was my 80's > > set, and i'm real sorry that i didn't fit into your narrow little field >of > > what idm dj's should do. so, boo hoo that you didn't have a good time >and > > i > > apologise for the rest of us whose musical tastes start before the > > "artificial intelligence" comp came out, you little fucking crybaby.

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Man, you still sound really touchy and offended, and for that I apologize. I will stand by my points, though - I sat in Rodan for two hours (not one) and never learned that the show had started until I left and saw someone standing near the turntables and a laptop running Traktor. Maybe you should invest in a cheap mic to say nothing more than "Hello, welcome to our show, I'm ____ and I'll be spinning some ____ for you tonight." I.W. On 10/30/05, robert sinewave <robertsinewave@hotmail.com> wrote:

quoted 80 lines well the, i don't know where the hell you were around 11p, and the dj who

> > well the, i don't know where the hell you were around 11p, and the dj who > played his laptop before i did was playing more mainstream stuff and not > techno, so i don't know what the fuck you were listening to, or where you > might've been @ the time. > > and you're right i made a judgement 'cause it seems to me that whatever > shitty techno you were listening to wasn't being played. if you said that > my mixes weren't tight, i'd probably have to agree w/ you, and we would be > here talking about this shit. so if your only complaint is that you had to > sit in rodan for an hour, just like franz, john and i and watch yuppfest > 2005, just like you did? too bad. it's where we had to play. sonotheque > isn't that much better. > > > >From: incredible weirdo <incredible.weirdo@gmail.com> > >To: idm@hyperreal.org > >Subject: Re: [idm] LASTNIGHT in Chicago/Signaldrift > >Date: Sat, 29 Oct 2005 16:49:34 -0500 > > > >For the record, I didn't hear any New Order, Talking Heads, Kraftwerk, or > >LCD Soundsystem, all of whom I love. I, the entire time I was there, > heard > >not a single track with vocals, nor anything remotely 80's - that would > >certainly have kept my interest. Where you the first DJ up? "Around 11" > >could mean a few minutes before or after. And before you go making sudden > >judgements about me and my 'narrow minded' view of IDM and what IDM DJ's > >should spin, know I have no elitist, pretentious opinions on that. And > >stuff > >your "people who have musical tastes that started before Artificial > >Intelligence came out" - simply because I didn't like the boring > electronic > >I heard by no means infers that I hate anything unrelated to Autechre. > And > >I > >love 80's music because I actually love it, not for its 'kitsch' factor > or > >to be dry and sardonic (who has 3 Bronski Beat albums on vinyl? Yes, that > >would be me). By calling names ("fucking crybaby"), you've automatically > >justified anything bad I may have had to say about the show. Don't be so > >sensitive and reactionary, I'm not the only critic in the world and I'm > >certainly not the only person who may not like a show. > >THE BIG POINTS - Please let the audience know when the show starts, and > >don't start it two hours late most certainly without letting anyone know. > > I.W. > >On 10/29/05, robert sinewave <robertsinewave@hotmail.com> wrote: > > > > > wow. sound like you had a real boring time. well that sucks for you. > > > althought i'm not crazy about the atmosphere in rodan, the people who > >did > > > show for signaldrift were cool, and there were a lot of people (which > >was > > > surprising to me) that we didn't know who enjoyed the show as well. > > > > > > as for the dj who played the shitty techno music about 11p, that was > me. > > > also just to let you know, i wasn't playing techno. i was playing some > >new > > > wave (new order, talking heads, esg) into some early 80's new york > >electro > > > (jonzun crew, man parrish, hasim, etc) along w/ other shit that fit > like > > > paul hardcastle, lcd soundsystem, kraftwerk, spacepimp. that was my > 80's > > > set, and i'm real sorry that i didn't fit into your narrow little > field > >of > > > what idm dj's should do. so, boo hoo that you didn't have a good time > >and > > > i > > > apologise for the rest of us whose musical tastes start before the > > > "artificial intelligence" comp came out, you little fucking crybaby. > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > >

after the 2nd email, no offence was taken. i will say this though: i've never been to a show in chicago unless it was metro or a major place, i've never seen anyone make announcements saying "I'm ____ and I'll be spinning some ____ for you tonight." never happened @ rodan, sonotheque, smartbar, buddah, empty bottle, whatever the name of that shitty club downtown is called, tini martini, betty's, and i could go on and on. it's just how things happen.

quoted 112 lines From: incredible weirdo <incredible.weirdo@gmail.com>

>From: incredible weirdo <incredible.weirdo@gmail.com> >To: idm@hyperreal.org >Subject: Re: [idm] LASTNIGHT in Chicago/Signaldrift >Date: Sun, 30 Oct 2005 15:42:47 -0600 > >Man, you still sound really touchy and offended, and for that I apologize. >I >will stand by my points, though - I sat in Rodan for two hours (not one) >and >never learned that the show had started until I left and saw someone >standing near the turntables and a laptop running Traktor. Maybe you should >invest in a cheap mic to say nothing more than "Hello, welcome to our show, >I'm ____ and I'll be spinning some ____ for you tonight." > I.W. > > On 10/30/05, robert sinewave <robertsinewave@hotmail.com> wrote: > > > > well the, i don't know where the hell you were around 11p, and the dj >who > > played his laptop before i did was playing more mainstream stuff and not > > techno, so i don't know what the fuck you were listening to, or where >you > > might've been @ the time. > > > > and you're right i made a judgement 'cause it seems to me that whatever > > shitty techno you were listening to wasn't being played. if you said >that > > my mixes weren't tight, i'd probably have to agree w/ you, and we would >be > > here talking about this shit. so if your only complaint is that you had >to > > sit in rodan for an hour, just like franz, john and i and watch yuppfest > > 2005, just like you did? too bad. it's where we had to play. sonotheque > > isn't that much better. > > > > > > >From: incredible weirdo <incredible.weirdo@gmail.com> > > >To: idm@hyperreal.org > > >Subject: Re: [idm] LASTNIGHT in Chicago/Signaldrift > > >Date: Sat, 29 Oct 2005 16:49:34 -0500 > > > > > >For the record, I didn't hear any New Order, Talking Heads, Kraftwerk, >or > > >LCD Soundsystem, all of whom I love. I, the entire time I was there, > > heard > > >not a single track with vocals, nor anything remotely 80's - that would > > >certainly have kept my interest. Where you the first DJ up? "Around 11" > > >could mean a few minutes before or after. And before you go making >sudden > > >judgements about me and my 'narrow minded' view of IDM and what IDM >DJ's > > >should spin, know I have no elitist, pretentious opinions on that. And > > >stuff > > >your "people who have musical tastes that started before Artificial > > >Intelligence came out" - simply because I didn't like the boring > > electronic > > >I heard by no means infers that I hate anything unrelated to Autechre. > > And > > >I > > >love 80's music because I actually love it, not for its 'kitsch' factor > > or > > >to be dry and sardonic (who has 3 Bronski Beat albums on vinyl? Yes, >that > > >would be me). By calling names ("fucking crybaby"), you've >automatically > > >justified anything bad I may have had to say about the show. Don't be >so > > >sensitive and reactionary, I'm not the only critic in the world and I'm > > >certainly not the only person who may not like a show. > > >THE BIG POINTS - Please let the audience know when the show starts, and > > >don't start it two hours late most certainly without letting anyone >know. > > > I.W. > > >On 10/29/05, robert sinewave <robertsinewave@hotmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > wow. sound like you had a real boring time. well that sucks for you. > > > > althought i'm not crazy about the atmosphere in rodan, the people >who > > >did > > > > show for signaldrift were cool, and there were a lot of people >(which > > >was > > > > surprising to me) that we didn't know who enjoyed the show as well. > > > > > > > > as for the dj who played the shitty techno music about 11p, that was > > me. > > > > also just to let you know, i wasn't playing techno. i was playing >some > > >new > > > > wave (new order, talking heads, esg) into some early 80's new york > > >electro > > > > (jonzun crew, man parrish, hasim, etc) along w/ other shit that fit > > like > > > > paul hardcastle, lcd soundsystem, kraftwerk, spacepimp. that was my > > 80's > > > > set, and i'm real sorry that i didn't fit into your narrow little > > field > > >of > > > > what idm dj's should do. so, boo hoo that you didn't have a good >time > > >and > > > > i > > > > apologise for the rest of us whose musical tastes start before the > > > > "artificial intelligence" comp came out, you little fucking crybaby. > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > > > >

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