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---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- From: "Greg Hill" <cameron69@comcast.net> Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2005 15:43:46 -0800

quoted 1 line really? how did you not get a headache, just curious? to me, the

>really? how did you not get a headache, just curious? to me, the

stuff

quoted 1 line couldn't be called music..it was just loud, grating machine

>couldn't be called music..it was just loud, grating machine

sounds. to someone like me, who came to idm long after industrial/noise, this is funny. in the "loud grating machine sounds" department, even autechre's least musical moments don't compare to the likes of einsturzende neubauten or controlled bleeding to name a few. d. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

On Feb 14, 2005, at 5:55 PM, chthonic wrote:

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> ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- > From: "Greg Hill" <cameron69@comcast.net> > Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2005 15:43:46 -0800 > >> really? how did you not get a headache, just curious? to me, the > stuff >> couldn't be called music..it was just loud, grating machine > sounds. > > to someone like me, who came to idm long after industrial/noise, > this is funny. in the "loud grating machine sounds" department, > even autechre's least musical moments don't compare to the likes > of einsturzende neubauten or controlled bleeding to name a few. >

Aah come on, i like that stuff too, but AE is way better to fuck to. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

Now now, I love confield, and pretty much anything Autechre turns out. I love Einstürzende Neubauten also. To say, however, that Ae's least musical moments don't compare to the likes of EN is just ill-informed. I think you need to listen to some recent EN. Hell, even listen to some of the work on Strategies Against Architecture II. I love confield, again, but most of EN is much more melodic, musical, and dare I say 'pop' (yeah, I saw the whole other discussion on that word) than confield can ever hope to be. Or even Draft 7.30 for that matter. I know you probably didn't mean it as such, but it seems to me people are very dismissive of EN as "that weird German industrial noise shit." forel On Feb 14, 2005, at 6:55 PM, chthonic wrote:

quoted 2 lines even autechre's least musical moments don't compare to the likes

> even autechre's least musical moments don't compare to the likes > of einsturzende neubauten

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quoted 5 lines I know you probably didn't mean it as such, but it seems to me people

> I know you probably didn't mean it as such, but it seems to me people > are very dismissive of EN as "that weird German industrial noise > shit." > >

Nah i love em too, i've seen them live 5 times. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org