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2003-06-23 22:08moe espinosaall of drumcodes are greast i think.........but there are allot of trax that are hard and

From:: moe espinosa <drph8@earthlink.net>
To:: : ruaridh : <thevillageorchestra@hotmail.com>, <idm@hyperreal.org>
Date:: Mon, 23 Jun 2003 15:08:05 -0700
Subject:: Re: [idm] my definition of techno

all of drumcodes are greast i think.........but there are allot of trax that are hard and driving just as much as the paticular track our talking about ....dont get me rong its a good track but i think you should check out some PATRICK SKOOG ,LARS KLIEN , MICHEL BURKET(just released a new a track on his own label TEMPER a month or 2 ago) CHRIS LIBING is pretty tough as well i just put out a a hard ass record on DROID RECORDINGS you can order and listen to it here www.droidbehavior.com its in the droid recodings section e mail me with feedback drumcell@droidbehavior.com or you can check out some of my unreleased trax at www.drumcell.com ----- Original Message ----- From: ": ruaridh :" <thevillageorchestra@hotmail.com> To: <idm@hyperreal.org> Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2003 5:19 AM Subject: [idm] my definition of techno

quoted 4 lines i've gone off Adam Beyer quite a bit since my early drumcodes buying

> > i've gone off Adam Beyer quite a bit since my early drumcodes buying > days...however, techno for me is the one true love that will never die. > perenially unfshionable to all but a hardcore few, and misunderstood by

many

quoted 1 line (especially those who like the other electronic music i do), at its best

> (especially those who like the other electronic music i do), at its best

quoted 3 lines has a complexity and power that are equal to anything in the idm or

> has a complexity and power that are equal to anything in the idm or > experimental electronic scenes. > the perfect encapsulation of techno for me at the moment is Surgeon's

"Death

quoted 23 lines Before Surrender" from the British Murder Boys Ep, which covers more in 8

> Before Surrender" from the British Murder Boys Ep, which covers more in 8 > minutes than most artists do in a lifetime. His "Force and Form" album is > unsurpassable. > ______________________________________________________________________ > thevillageorchestra@hotmail.com > Marcia Blaine Industries : http://marciablaine.cjb.net > Out Now: "Marcia Blaine School For Girls EP" re-press(Dalriada 12") > "Minraud"("Red Zero Seven" cd, Struktur) > "Pine Trees Make Golden Rules"(Stuff Records01 comp.12") > "Pink Sticks / We" (Static Caravan 7") > Forthcoming: "Miss Prism" (Static Caravan vs Expanding 10" comp.) > "Kamara Debagging" (Awkward Silence split 7") > "Routed to the Spot" ("I Ambient" cd ,Law and Auder) > > _________________________________________________________________ > Find a cheaper internet access deal - choose one to suit you. > http://www.msn.co.uk/internetaccess > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org >

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2003-06-29 00:40wolf kemker....is... drumcode 20.5 side aa 'dk remix 2' i enjoy all the other drumcodes but barely on

From:: wolf kemker <wolf@kemkerwolf.de>
To:: idm@hyperreal. org <idm@hyperreal.org>
Date:: Sun, 29 Jun 2003 02:40:30 +0200
Subject:: [idm] my definition of techno

....is... drumcode 20.5 side aa 'dk remix 2' i enjoy all the other drumcodes but barely one comes close. since day of release this had to be my favourite tune. of all times. for real. test of time approved. maybe touched (in terms of goodfeel) by pump panels 'ego acid'. discuss. recommendations please of similar driving stuff. yes. you idm folks. sorry for being offtopic & drunk, ciao, wolf. ----://----------------------------------------------------- mailto:wolf@kompaktkiste.de http://www.kompaktkiste.de http://www.kompaktkiste.de/shop ----://----------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

2003-06-30 02:19Claire evans-whitealthough that is a cool track I would have to contest with code red 6 track 1 on the b sid

From:: Claire evans-white <blutech21@yahoo.com>
To:: <wolf@kemkerwolf.de>, idm@hyperreal. org <idm@hyperreal.org>
Date:: Sun, 29 Jun 2003 19:19:57 -0700 (PDT)
Subject:: Re: [idm] my definition of techno
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although that is a cool track I would have to contest with code red 6 track 1 on the b side as being a lucrative timeless techno classic claire- -- wolf kemker <wolf@kemkerwolf.de> wrote:

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> ....is... > drumcode 20.5 side aa 'dk remix 2' > i enjoy all the other drumcodes but barely one comes > close. > since day of release this had to be my favourite > tune. > of all times. for real. test of time approved. > > maybe touched (in terms of goodfeel) by pump panels > 'ego acid'. > > discuss. recommendations please of similar driving > stuff. > yes. you idm folks. > > sorry for being offtopic & drunk, > ciao, > wolf. > >

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2003-06-30 03:26wallace winfreyOn Sun, 29 Jun 2003, wolf kemker wrote: > discuss. recommendations please of similar drivi

From:: wallace winfrey <wally@booyaka.com>
To:: <idm@hyperreal.org>
Date:: Sun, 29 Jun 2003 21:26:21 -0600 (MDT)
Subject:: Re: [idm] my definition of techno
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On Sun, 29 Jun 2003, wolf kemker wrote:

quoted 2 lines discuss. recommendations please of similar driving stuff.

> discuss. recommendations please of similar driving stuff. > yes. you idm folks.

* blackout audio -- mark eg's label. hard and dark. * pounding grooves is very good swedish-style stompy techno. i could be wrong, but i heard he (lawrence dunster) was doing psy-trance beforehand. weird. excellent production nonetheless. * speedy j's output over the last year has been amazing as well. kreck and bugmod were absolutely wicked. the remix of chris liebing's analogon kicked my ass, with a massive, massive breakdown, more recently, his remix of adam beyer's ignition key is really, really fucking good. just builds and builds and never drops the kick drum, but manages to be more manic than 99% of techno out there. funny that grooves was dissing all over loudboxer -- the reviewer obviously didn't get it. headphone music it aint -- it takes on a whole different meaning on a big freaking sound system. * cristian vogel's dungeon master double-twelve would appeal to a lot of people on this list. really twisted stuff. it may have a limited audience, but i think some of the most innovative stuff in electronic music is being filed in the techno bins right now. cheers w --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

2003-06-29 09:05:m. zeroi'd also like to know where i might be able to specifically find more like adam beyer and

From:: :m. zero <mzero@ecesis.org>
To:: <idm@hyperreal.org>
Date:: Sun, 29 Jun 2003 04:05:58 -0500
Subject:: Re: [idm] my definition of techno

i'd also like to know where i might be able to specifically find more like adam beyer and umek. i tend to view them as the same sort of tech that i heard way back when i went to my first party in chicago in 97 in a church gymnasium and saw this middle school kid spin really high-treble bang-tech that completely owned in a side room. i therefore have a great deal of appreciation for this thread. i honestly don't think i know very much about this kind of tech, but i'm definitely into it, so please talk more about it. others in particular that seem to be pretty much in the same vein for me: strobe hardcell glen wilson johan bacto some christian morgenstern (the more-bangy, less-deep material, though i enjoy all morgenstern) most anything on zync maybe some stewart walker or adam jay to take things down a notch, but it's got the same ideas involved. :justin http://ecesis.org/ | http://posthoc.org/

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> ....is... > drumcode 20.5 side aa 'dk remix 2' > i enjoy all the other drumcodes but barely one comes close. > since day of release this had to be my favourite tune. > of all times. for real. test of time approved. > > maybe touched (in terms of goodfeel) by pump panels 'ego acid'. > > discuss. recommendations please of similar driving stuff. > yes. you idm folks. > > sorry for being offtopic & drunk, > ciao, > wolf.

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2003-06-29 12:19: ruaridh :i've gone off Adam Beyer quite a bit since my early drumcodes buying days...however, techn

From:: : ruaridh : <thevillageorchestra@hotmail.com>
To:: <idm@hyperreal.org>
Date:: Sun, 29 Jun 2003 13:19:32 +0100
Subject:: [idm] my definition of techno

i've gone off Adam Beyer quite a bit since my early drumcodes buying days...however, techno for me is the one true love that will never die. perenially unfshionable to all but a hardcore few, and misunderstood by many (especially those who like the other electronic music i do), at its best it has a complexity and power that are equal to anything in the idm or experimental electronic scenes. the perfect encapsulation of techno for me at the moment is Surgeon's "Death Before Surrender" from the British Murder Boys Ep, which covers more in 8 minutes than most artists do in a lifetime. His "Force and Form" album is unsurpassable. ______________________________________________________________________ thevillageorchestra@hotmail.com Marcia Blaine Industries : http://marciablaine.cjb.net Out Now: "Marcia Blaine School For Girls EP" re-press(Dalriada 12") "Minraud"("Red Zero Seven" cd, Struktur) "Pine Trees Make Golden Rules"(Stuff Records01 comp.12") "Pink Sticks / We" (Static Caravan 7") Forthcoming: "Miss Prism" (Static Caravan vs Expanding 10" comp.) "Kamara Debagging" (Awkward Silence split 7") "Routed to the Spot" ("I Ambient" cd ,Law and Auder) _________________________________________________________________ Find a cheaper internet access deal - choose one to suit you. http://www.msn.co.uk/internetaccess --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

2003-06-29 20:23William SamuelsI love techno as well, but I own so much minimal techno I don't really feel the need to bu

From:: William Samuels <w_technoir@yahoo.com>
To:: <idm@hyperreal.org>
Date:: Sun, 29 Jun 2003 13:23:56 -0700 (PDT)
Subject:: Re: [idm] my definition of techno
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I love techno as well, but I own so much minimal techno I don't really feel the need to buy that much of the new stuff unless it is really exceptional. Surgeon is always great, I'll usually pick any of his releases on sight. One artist that I am really like is Diego Hostettler, who usually just releases material as Diego or for idm material Shapes & Forms. Cristian Vogel & Paul Mac usually put out some pretty good releases. Oh yeah, Central Records is awesome!!!

quoted 21 lines ruaridh :" <thevillageorchestra@hotmail.com> wrote:

> ruaridh :" <thevillageorchestra@hotmail.com> wrote: > > i've gone off Adam Beyer quite a bit since my early > drumcodes buying > days...however, techno for me is the one true love > that will never die. > perenially unfshionable to all but a hardcore few, > and misunderstood by many > (especially those who like the other electronic > music i do), at its best it > has a complexity and power that are equal to > anything in the idm or > experimental electronic scenes. > the perfect encapsulation of techno for me at the > moment is Surgeon's "Death > Before Surrender" from the British Murder Boys Ep, > which covers more in 8 > minutes than most artists do in a lifetime. His > "Force and Form" album is > unsurpassable. >

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2003-06-29 21:16seeklektekFrom: "William Samuels" > One artist that I am really like is Diego Hostettler, > who usua

From:: seeklektek <eclectics@attbi.com>
To:: <idm@hyperreal.org>
Date:: Sun, 29 Jun 2003 14:16:56 -0700
Subject:: Re: [idm] my definition of techno

From: "William Samuels"

quoted 3 lines One artist that I am really like is Diego Hostettler,

> One artist that I am really like is Diego Hostettler, > who usually just releases material as Diego or for idm > material Shapes & Forms.

Diego's stuff is great. 'Mouth Full Of Fresh Cut Flowers' is highly recommended, on Kanzleramt. Shapes and Forms (s/t) is also excellent, on K2 O. Not as fond of the new Diego, 'Instant Reality', tho it's good, too. seek --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

2003-06-30 08:31Corbin, Nick> i'd also like to know where i might be able to specifically find more like adam beyer an

From:: Corbin, Nick <Nick.Corbin@acnielsen.co.uk>
To:: ':m. zero' <mzero@ecesis.org>, <idm@hyperreal.org>
Date:: Mon, 30 Jun 2003 09:31:59 +0100
Subject:: RE: [idm] my definition of techno

> i'd also like to know where i might be able to specifically find more like adam beyer and umek. > others in particular that seem to be pretty much in the same vein for me: strobe hardcell glen wilson johan bacto some christian morgenstern (the more-bangy, less-deep material, though i enjoy all morgenstern) most anything on zync what you find these days is that there are new labels springing up all the time, so it's a real job keeping up with new stuff and not missing out on anything. i'm quite surprised this thread has cropped up on the list as i didn't think that many people were into it, at least not on this list. anyway, this is exactly the kind of tunes i mix so you might want to check out the following labels... form construct rhythm blitzkrieg clr potential planet rhythm heroes 4x4 cluster hydraulix tortured jerk and i've found the best site to listen to tunes is www.tuneinn.com - the 'hard techno' section is what you're after... ;) p.s. i'm not adverse to sending interested parties a cd of mine, so let me know and i'll oblige. er, i'd better say 'first 3 to email' in case there's trillions of responses ;) cheers [nick] --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

2003-06-30 21:15albert loo>* speedy j's output over the last year has been amazing as well. kreck and >bugmod were a

From:: albert loo <foosfoos@hotmail.com>
To:: <wally@booyaka.com>, <idm@hyperreal.org>
Date:: Mon, 30 Jun 2003 16:15:20 -0500
Subject:: Re: [idm] my definition of techno

quoted 6 lines * speedy j's output over the last year has been amazing as well. kreck and

>* speedy j's output over the last year has been amazing as well. kreck and >bugmod were absolutely wicked. the remix of chris liebing's analogon >kicked my ass, with a massive, massive breakdown, more recently, his remix >of adam beyer's ignition key is really, really fucking good. just builds >and builds and never drops the kick drum, but manages to be more manic >than 99% of techno out there.

i finally had the opportunity to finally see speedy j live at an afterparty at the detroit music fest this year. granted what he was doing wasn't mindblowingly new, but devastatingly effective on the dance floor. most of his set probably consisted of really long buildups with only short amounts of release provided by massive kickdrums that pummel you senseless. i can see how loudboxer is boring for home listening, but played loud as hell in a dark room of full people going completely nuts, it's a totally different experience. he also has a recent release on novamute called tanga - if you liked bugmod or krekc it'll likely be right up your alley. for other harder techno recommendations - there's mark broom, who's always rocked it, and up-and comer christian wunsch who kicks on on just about anything he releases. shufflemaster always keeps the shit interesting too.

quoted 42 lines From: wallace winfrey <wally@booyaka.com>

>From: wallace winfrey <wally@booyaka.com> >To: idm@hyperreal.org >Subject: Re: [idm] my definition of techno >Date: Sun, 29 Jun 2003 21:26:21 -0600 (MDT) > >On Sun, 29 Jun 2003, wolf kemker wrote: > > > discuss. recommendations please of similar driving stuff. > > yes. you idm folks. > >* blackout audio -- mark eg's label. hard and dark. > >* pounding grooves is very good swedish-style stompy techno. i could be >wrong, but i heard he (lawrence dunster) was doing psy-trance beforehand. >weird. excellent production nonetheless. > >* speedy j's output over the last year has been amazing as well. kreck and >bugmod were absolutely wicked. the remix of chris liebing's analogon >kicked my ass, with a massive, massive breakdown, more recently, his remix >of adam beyer's ignition key is really, really fucking good. just builds >and builds and never drops the kick drum, but manages to be more manic >than 99% of techno out there. > >funny that grooves was dissing all over loudboxer -- the reviewer >obviously didn't get it. headphone music it aint -- it takes on a whole >different meaning on a big freaking sound system. > >* cristian vogel's dungeon master double-twelve would appeal to a lot of >people on this list. really twisted stuff. > >it may have a limited audience, but i think some of the most innovative >stuff in electronic music is being filed in the techno bins right now. > >cheers > >w > > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- >To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org >For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org >

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2003-06-30 22:21NickGuys Just wondering... I hear about all these different guys to listen to and I really wan

From:: Nick <awuhu@comcast.net>
To:: <idm@hyperreal.org>
Date:: Mon, 30 Jun 2003 18:21:56 -0400
Subject:: Re: [idm] my definition of techno

Guys Just wondering... I hear about all these different guys to listen to and I really want to... but I have no idea how. Kazaa never has stuff nor do CD stores. Is eBay and live shows the only ways? And if so, how on Earth can one actually find anything specific? Nick --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

2003-06-30 23:44The REAL Mxyzptlkplaying.by.ear@mindspring.com support@skimo.com Email both of the above addresses and ask

From:: The REAL Mxyzptlk <therealmxyzptlk@comcast.net>
To:: Nick <awuhu@comcast.net>, <idm@hyperreal.org>
Date:: Mon, 30 Jun 2003 18:44:05 -0500
Subject:: Re: [idm] my definition of techno
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playing.by.ear@mindspring.com support@skimo.com Email both of the above addresses and ask to be placed on their update lists...you can order from them via email. jeff ps. sub to idm-mart via yahoogroups. At 05:21 PM 6/30/2003, Nick wrote:

quoted 7 lines Guys

>Guys > >Just wondering... > >I hear about all these different guys to listen to and I really want to... >but I have no idea how. Kazaa never has stuff nor do CD stores. Is eBay >and live shows the only ways?

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2003-07-01 01:49EggyToastAt 06:21 PM 6/30/2003 -0400, you wrote: >Guys > >Just wondering... > >I hear about all the

From:: EggyToast <eggy@eggtastic.com>
To:: <idm@hyperreal.org>
Date:: Mon, 30 Jun 2003 21:49:09 -0400
Subject:: Re: [idm] my definition of techno
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At 06:21 PM 6/30/2003 -0400, you wrote:

quoted 8 lines Guys

have you, uhh, given the enumerable playlists sent to the list a listen? Most of them are available via the 'web... You have a comcast address so I'd imagine you're on broadband. Digital Nimbus, Shimone's show, advanced d&d, so many radio shows! Also, plenty of labels offer mp3 snippets of albums or new artists. Regarding actually buying the stuff, there's ForcedExposure for non-new stuff, as well as Skimo and PBE for bleeding-edge releases via email lists. -- eggytoast.com - eggtastic.com ----- it's in your grocer's freezer --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

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