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2002-03-19 06:22Jesse Buehler [idm] Hood
└─ 2002-03-19 06:33Aaron Ximm [idm] Alog
2002-03-19 06:41rw Re: [idm] wtf...
2002-03-19 06:43[idm] wtf...
└─ 2002-03-19 07:25wells Re: [idm] wtf...
2002-03-19 06:59Static Beats Re: [idm] wtf...
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2002-03-19 14:36Helix Tradesman Re: [idm] wtf...
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2002-03-19 17:42Static Beats Re: [idm] wtf...
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2002-03-19 22:49Canti Re: [idm] wtf...
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2002-03-19 06:22Jesse BuehlerHas anyone here listened to the new Hood CD? I think its the best attempt at combining ele
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Has anyone here listened to the new Hood CD? I think its the best attempt at combining electronics and indy rock. It reminds me of the best elements of Vespertine, Kid A, Mogwai and Slowdive's Pygmalion. Radiohead should pay attention! _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2002-03-19 06:33Aaron XimmFinally got a copy of 'Duck-Rabbit.' Fantastic design, I just love Rune Grammafone. I want
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Finally got a copy of 'Duck-Rabbit.' Fantastic design, I just love Rune Grammafone. I want them to redesign my... my... everything. I've almost ordered other artists from them based on their packaging alone, anyone care to pass on any pointers or reviews? On first blush D-R sounds more focused, almost more Boards of Canada, then Alog's first (Red Shift Swing) -- I even hear elements that echo drum & bass. But this step towards more general accessibility doesn't hide their gleeful use of mutated and mutilated source... so tasty! Please, someone point me towards something similar... (free association comes up with Curd Duca's Elevator 3 and maybe Philip Jeck, but I already know those...)! aaron ghede@well.com http://www.quietamerican.org --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2002-03-19 06:41rwGOD NO PLEASE MAKE IT STOP. IS THERE ANY JUSTICE INT HE WORLD?!??!?! AND WHATS THIS DUB I
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GOD NO PLEASE MAKE IT STOP. IS THERE ANY JUSTICE INT HE WORLD?!??!?! AND WHATS THIS DUB I HEAR SO MUCH ABOUT ?!?! AND THEY GO THESE BIG CHEWY PRTEZELS THAT JDHNC MY HN HUENMND KFIJCMMOW $5 GET OUTA HERE!?!?!? rw ----- Original Message ----- From: <thoughtbludgeon@thoughtbludgeon.com> To: <idm@hyperreal.org>; <IDM-Making@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2002 12:43 AM Subject: [idm] wtf...
quoted 21 lines can someone explain to me why mp3.com has an IDM genre under techno?!?!?!> can someone explain to me why mp3.com has an IDM genre under techno?!?!?! > http://genres.mp3.com/music/electronic/techno/idm/ > > techno?!? > > --- > http://www.mp3.com/edgey > http://www.thoughtbludgeon.com > "intellect in rational movement tries to kill emotion, in doing so, only > kills itself." > "when you're holding a hammer, everything looks like a nail." > THOUGHTBLUDGEON RECORDINGS - SOUND EXTREMES > --- > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > > >
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2002-03-19 06:43thoughtbludgeon@thoughtbludgeon.comcan someone explain to me why mp3.com has an IDM genre under techno?!?!?! http://genres.mp
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can someone explain to me why mp3.com has an IDM genre under techno?!?!?! http://genres.mp3.com/music/electronic/techno/idm/ techno?!? --- http://www.mp3.com/edgey http://www.thoughtbludgeon.com "intellect in rational movement tries to kill emotion, in doing so, only kills itself." "when you're holding a hammer, everything looks like a nail." THOUGHTBLUDGEON RECORDINGS - SOUND EXTREMES --- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2002-03-19 07:25wellsAt 01:43 AM 3/19/2002 -0500, thoughtbludgeon@thoughtbludgeon.com wrote: >can someone expla
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At 01:43 AM 3/19/2002 -0500, thoughtbludgeon@thoughtbludgeon.com wrote:
quoted 4 lines can someone explain to me why mp3.com has an IDM genre under techno?!?!?!>can someone explain to me why mp3.com has an IDM genre under techno?!?!?! >http://genres.mp3.com/music/electronic/techno/idm/ > >techno?!?
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2002-03-19 06:59Static BeatsBecause techno is the grandaddy of all modern electronic music genres. Before anyone was l
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Because techno is the grandaddy of all modern electronic music genres. Before anyone was listening to house, jungle, breakbeat, trance, IDM, etc. they were listening to Techno. Everything after that is just a sub-genre. Techno is actually a very logical place to put IDM. 12 years ago if someone asked me what kinda music I listened to I'd say "techno". So, as far as I'm concerned everything that came after is just an interpretation of the genre. Techno is the master genre. It defines the category of electric music we listen to. Shimone/Justes http://www.staticbeats.com | Electronic Music http://www.shimone.org | Digital Photography ----- Original Message ----- From: <thoughtbludgeon@thoughtbludgeon.com> To: <idm@hyperreal.org>; <IDM-Making@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Monday, March 18, 2002 10:43 PM Subject: [idm] wtf...
quoted 19 lines can someone explain to me why mp3.com has an IDM genre under techno?!?!?!> can someone explain to me why mp3.com has an IDM genre under techno?!?!?! > http://genres.mp3.com/music/electronic/techno/idm/ > > techno?!? > > --- > http://www.mp3.com/edgey > http://www.thoughtbludgeon.com > "intellect in rational movement tries to kill emotion, in doing so, only > kills itself." > "when you're holding a hammer, everything looks like a nail." > THOUGHTBLUDGEON RECORDINGS - SOUND EXTREMES > --- > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org >
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2002-03-19 07:03No one in particularOn Mon, 18 Mar 2002, Static Beats wrote: > Before anyone was listening to house, jungle, b
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On Mon, 18 Mar 2002, Static Beats wrote:
quoted 3 lines Before anyone was listening to house, jungle, breakbeat, trance, IDM, etc.> Before anyone was listening to house, jungle, breakbeat, trance, IDM, etc. > they were listening to Techno. Everything after that is just a sub-genre. > Techno is actually a very logical place to put IDM.
Most people who listen to a lot of electronic music agree that "techno" is its own subgenre of electronic music alongside house, trance, dnb, idm, etc. A notable example of techno is Plastikman/Richie Hawtin. That said, we all know that most of the mainstream public refer to all forms of electronic music as "techno", which is certainly what mp3.com did. But, you know, some people hate that shit. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2002-03-19 07:13thoughtbludgeon@thoughtbludgeon.comit's not that they have it (im stoked about that), its the location im worried about.. tec
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it's not that they have it (im stoked about that), its the location im worried about.. techno?!?! --- http://www.mp3.com/edgey http://www.thoughtbludgeon.com "intellect in rational movement tries to kill emotion, in doing so, only kills itself." "when you're holding a hammer, everything looks like a nail." THOUGHTBLUDGEON RECORDINGS - SOUND EXTREMES --- ----- Original Message ----- From: "rw" <rw@goldengate.net> To: <idm@hyperreal.org>; <IDM-Making@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2002 1:41 AM Subject: Re: [idm] wtf...
quoted 4 lines GOD NO PLEASE MAKE IT STOP. IS THERE ANY JUSTICE INT HE WORLD?!??!?! AND> GOD NO PLEASE MAKE IT STOP. IS THERE ANY JUSTICE INT HE WORLD?!??!?! AND > WHATS THIS DUB I HEAR SO MUCH ABOUT ?!?! > > AND THEY GO THESE BIG CHEWY PRTEZELS THAT JDHNC MY HN HUENMND KFIJCMMOW
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quoted 12 lines GET OUTA HERE!?!?!?> GET OUTA HERE!?!?!? > > rw > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <thoughtbludgeon@thoughtbludgeon.com> > To: <idm@hyperreal.org>; <IDM-Making@yahoogroups.com> > Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2002 12:43 AM > Subject: [idm] wtf... > > > > can someone explain to me why mp3.com has an IDM genre under
techno?!?!?!
quoted 27 lines > > http://genres.mp3.com/music/electronic/techno/idm/ > > > > techno?!? > > > > --- > > http://www.mp3.com/edgey > > http://www.thoughtbludgeon.com > > "intellect in rational movement tries to kill emotion, in doing so, only > > kills itself." > > "when you're holding a hammer, everything looks like a nail." > > THOUGHTBLUDGEON RECORDINGS - SOUND EXTREMES > > --- > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > >
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2002-03-19 07:54Aaron D MeyersIf IDM-listers were muppets, Wells would be Sam the Eagle. Its true! Rock on, Wells! -Aaro
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If IDM-listers were muppets, Wells would be Sam the Eagle. Its true! Rock on, Wells! -Aaron np: Jacky Jasper - Fuck You
quoted 7 lines Oh boy let's engage in the genre naming thread again it's really> > > Oh boy let's engage in the genre naming thread again it's really > freaking > interesting. Oh what wonderful points will be made this time. > >
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2002-03-19 14:36Helix TradesmanWell, if you're gonna get all historical about it, techno is not (chronologically) the gra
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Well, if you're gonna get all historical about it, techno is not (chronologically) the grandaddy of all modern electronic music genres. House has been around in one form or another since the fall of disco, and unless you count kraftwerk as being the techno genre unto themselves, it predates what most would consider techno. So IDM should be listed under house now? :)
quoted 12 lines Because techno is the grandaddy of all modern electronic music genres.>Because techno is the grandaddy of all modern electronic music genres. > >Before anyone was listening to house, jungle, breakbeat, trance, IDM, etc. >they were listening to Techno. Everything after that is just a sub-genre. >Techno is actually a very logical place to put IDM. > >12 years ago if someone asked me what kinda music I listened to I'd say >"techno". So, as far as I'm concerned everything that came after is just an >interpretation of the genre. > >Techno is the master genre. It defines the category of electric music we >listen to.
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2002-03-19 22:54John HooverThrow Throbbing Gristle into that as well... The mid-seventies saw tracks that could still
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Throw Throbbing Gristle into that as well... The mid-seventies saw tracks that could still be played today in a "Techno" set. Also, a lot of things that I would call IDM today, I called "Intelligent Techno" a few years back. I guess the question is this, if you were MP3.com, where would you put IDM? Peace John / DJ Intraveinous -----Original Message----- From: Helix Tradesman [mailto:paelon@hotmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2002 2:37 PM To: idm-list@staticbeats.com Cc: idm@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [idm] wtf... Well, if you're gonna get all historical about it, techno is not (chronologically) the grandaddy of all modern electronic music genres. House has been around in one form or another since the fall of disco, and unless you count kraftwerk as being the techno genre unto themselves, it predates what most would consider techno. So IDM should be listed under house now? :)
quoted 3 lines Because techno is the grandaddy of all modern electronic music genres.>Because techno is the grandaddy of all modern electronic music genres. > >Before anyone was listening to house, jungle, breakbeat, trance, IDM,
etc.
quoted 1 line they were listening to Techno. Everything after that is just a>they were listening to Techno. Everything after that is just a
sub-genre.
quoted 4 lines Techno is actually a very logical place to put IDM.>Techno is actually a very logical place to put IDM. > >12 years ago if someone asked me what kinda music I listened to I'd say >"techno". So, as far as I'm concerned everything that came after is
just an
quoted 3 lines interpretation of the genre.>interpretation of the genre. > >Techno is the master genre. It defines the category of electric music
we
quoted 1 line listen to.>listen to.
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2002-03-19 17:42Static BeatsLOL, that's why I inserted "modern" because I was really referring to Techno music as I kn
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LOL, that's why I inserted "modern" because I was really referring to Techno music as I know it; modern US/UK techno born in the late 80's to early 90's ala much of what Thorsten Sideb0ard wrote in his email. I wasn't trying to get historical really, just trying more or less to say what Thor said ;-) I guess if I was trying to get historical I'd say that when I first started listening to "Techno" I was going to "underground's" and it wasn't until about 3 or 4 years later that techno became jungle, house and trance and the scene became "rave". Oh those were the days.... And yeah, the mention "category of electric music" was a typo. Shoulda said electronic Anyhow, that's all for me... Shimone/Justes http://www.staticbeats.com | Electronic Music http://www.shimone.org | Digital Photography ----- Original Message ----- From: "Helix Tradesman" <paelon@hotmail.com> To: <idm-list@staticbeats.com> Cc: <idm@hyperreal.org> Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2002 2:36 PM Subject: Re: [idm] wtf...
quoted 2 lines Well, if you're gonna get all historical about it, techno is not> Well, if you're gonna get all historical about it, techno is not > (chronologically) the grandaddy of all modern electronic music genres.
House
quoted 9 lines has been around in one form or another since the fall of disco, and unless> has been around in one form or another since the fall of disco, and unless > you count kraftwerk as being the techno genre unto themselves, it predates > what most would consider techno. > > So IDM should be listed under house now? :) > > >Because techno is the grandaddy of all modern electronic music genres. > > > >Before anyone was listening to house, jungle, breakbeat, trance, IDM,
etc.
quoted 5 lines they were listening to Techno. Everything after that is just a sub-genre.> >they were listening to Techno. Everything after that is just a sub-genre. > >Techno is actually a very logical place to put IDM. > > > >12 years ago if someone asked me what kinda music I listened to I'd say > >"techno". So, as far as I'm concerned everything that came after is just
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quoted 4 lines interpretation of the genre.> >interpretation of the genre. > > > >Techno is the master genre. It defines the category of electric music we > >listen to.
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2002-03-19 20:22Gaiatekztur214@aol.comooh, he sed you like wedgies
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ooh, he sed you like wedgies
2002-03-19 22:49Canti> can someone explain to me why mp3.com has an IDM genre under techno?!?!?! > http://genre
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quoted 4 lines can someone explain to me why mp3.com has an IDM genre under techno?!?!?!> can someone explain to me why mp3.com has an IDM genre under techno?!?!?! > http://genres.mp3.com/music/electronic/techno/idm/ > > techno?!?
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2002-03-19 23:00cutupsWithout getting into the whole genre naming arguement - stuff is listed under "techno" bec
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Without getting into the whole genre naming arguement - stuff is listed under "techno" because despite the fact that to people who know it represents a certain specific, and limited sound different from jungle, house, trance, electro.... Its become a generic name/category for anything electronic with a beat, at least for everyman. Its uninformed and possibly backwards, but its definitely the case, reguarless of the history of anything. If i was on MP3.com honestly i'd try not to use "IDM" because its also a very misleading label. - cutups ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Hoover" <djintraveinous@mchsi.com> To: "'Helix Tradesman'" <paelon@hotmail.com>; <idm-list@staticbeats.com> Cc: <idm@hyperreal.org> Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2002 5:54 PM Subject: RE: [idm] wtf...
quoted 57 lines Throw Throbbing Gristle into that as well... The mid-seventies saw> Throw Throbbing Gristle into that as well... The mid-seventies saw > tracks that could still be played today in a "Techno" set. Also, a lot > of things that I would call IDM today, I called "Intelligent Techno" a > few years back. I guess the question is this, if you were MP3.com, where > would you put IDM? > Peace > John / DJ Intraveinous > > -----Original Message----- > From: Helix Tradesman [mailto:paelon@hotmail.com] > Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2002 2:37 PM > To: idm-list@staticbeats.com > Cc: idm@hyperreal.org > Subject: Re: [idm] wtf... > > Well, if you're gonna get all historical about it, techno is not > (chronologically) the grandaddy of all modern electronic music genres. > House > has been around in one form or another since the fall of disco, and > unless > you count kraftwerk as being the techno genre unto themselves, it > predates > what most would consider techno. > > So IDM should be listed under house now? :) > > >Because techno is the grandaddy of all modern electronic music genres. > > > >Before anyone was listening to house, jungle, breakbeat, trance, IDM, > etc. > >they were listening to Techno. Everything after that is just a > sub-genre. > >Techno is actually a very logical place to put IDM. > > > >12 years ago if someone asked me what kinda music I listened to I'd say > >"techno". So, as far as I'm concerned everything that came after is > just an > >interpretation of the genre. > > > >Techno is the master genre. It defines the category of electric music > we > >listen to. > > _________________________________________________________________ > Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > >
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2002-03-20 00:26µuteerr genre errr discussion err loop err dont waste your time with trivial meaningless bante
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err genre errr discussion err loop err dont waste your time with trivial meaningless banter....go listen to some music,read a book,have a bath,masturbate etc.......... ----- Original Message ----- From: "cutups" <cutup@andythepooh.com> To: <idm@hyperreal.org> Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2002 11:00 PM Subject: Re: [idm] wtf...
quoted 86 lines Without getting into the whole genre naming arguement -> Without getting into the whole genre naming arguement - > stuff is listed under "techno" because despite the fact > that to people who know it represents a certain specific, > and limited sound different from jungle, house, trance, electro.... > > Its become a generic name/category for anything > electronic with a beat, at least for everyman. > > Its uninformed and possibly backwards, but its definitely the case, > reguarless of the history of anything. > > If i was on MP3.com honestly i'd try not to use "IDM" > because its also a very misleading label. > > - cutups > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "John Hoover" <djintraveinous@mchsi.com> > To: "'Helix Tradesman'" <paelon@hotmail.com>; <idm-list@staticbeats.com> > Cc: <idm@hyperreal.org> > Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2002 5:54 PM > Subject: RE: [idm] wtf... > > > > Throw Throbbing Gristle into that as well... The mid-seventies saw > > tracks that could still be played today in a "Techno" set. Also, a lot > > of things that I would call IDM today, I called "Intelligent Techno" a > > few years back. I guess the question is this, if you were MP3.com, where > > would you put IDM? > > Peace > > John / DJ Intraveinous > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Helix Tradesman [mailto:paelon@hotmail.com] > > Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2002 2:37 PM > > To: idm-list@staticbeats.com > > Cc: idm@hyperreal.org > > Subject: Re: [idm] wtf... > > > > Well, if you're gonna get all historical about it, techno is not > > (chronologically) the grandaddy of all modern electronic music genres. > > House > > has been around in one form or another since the fall of disco, and > > unless > > you count kraftwerk as being the techno genre unto themselves, it > > predates > > what most would consider techno. > > > > So IDM should be listed under house now? :) > > > > >Because techno is the grandaddy of all modern electronic music genres. > > > > > >Before anyone was listening to house, jungle, breakbeat, trance, IDM, > > etc. > > >they were listening to Techno. Everything after that is just a > > sub-genre. > > >Techno is actually a very logical place to put IDM. > > > > > >12 years ago if someone asked me what kinda music I listened to I'd say > > >"techno". So, as far as I'm concerned everything that came after is > > just an > > >interpretation of the genre. > > > > > >Techno is the master genre. It defines the category of electric music > > we > > >listen to. > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org >
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2002-03-20 07:53thoughtbludgeon@thoughtbludgeon.comall good... not so much a matter of genre.. but taste, i guess... never associated idm wit
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all good... not so much a matter of genre.. but taste, i guess... never associated idm with generic 4/4 beats... which is why i find it odd to be under the techno category... eh.. whatever... --- http://www.mp3.com/edgey http://www.thoughtbludgeon.com "intellect in rational movement tries to kill emotion, in doing so, only kills itself." "when you're holding a hammer, everything looks like a nail." THOUGHTBLUDGEON RECORDINGS - SOUND EXTREMES --- ----- Original Message ----- From: "µute" <dave.briggs@tiscali.co.uk> To: <idm@hyperreal.org> Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2002 7:26 PM Subject: Re: [idm] wtf...
quoted 1 line err genre errr discussion err loop err dont waste your time with> err genre errr discussion err loop err dont waste your time with
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quoted 36 lines meaningless banter....go listen to some music,read a book,have a> meaningless banter....go listen to some music,read a book,have a > bath,masturbate etc.......... > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "cutups" <cutup@andythepooh.com> > To: <idm@hyperreal.org> > Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2002 11:00 PM > Subject: Re: [idm] wtf... > > > > Without getting into the whole genre naming arguement - > > stuff is listed under "techno" because despite the fact > > that to people who know it represents a certain specific, > > and limited sound different from jungle, house, trance, electro.... > > > > Its become a generic name/category for anything > > electronic with a beat, at least for everyman. > > > > Its uninformed and possibly backwards, but its definitely the case, > > reguarless of the history of anything. > > > > If i was on MP3.com honestly i'd try not to use "IDM" > > because its also a very misleading label. > > > > - cutups > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "John Hoover" <djintraveinous@mchsi.com> > > To: "'Helix Tradesman'" <paelon@hotmail.com>; <idm-list@staticbeats.com> > > Cc: <idm@hyperreal.org> > > Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2002 5:54 PM > > Subject: RE: [idm] wtf... > > > > > > > Throw Throbbing Gristle into that as well... The mid-seventies saw > > > tracks that could still be played today in a "Techno" set. Also, a lot > > > of things that I would call IDM today, I called "Intelligent Techno" a > > > few years back. I guess the question is this, if you were MP3.com,
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quoted 23 lines would you put IDM?> > > would you put IDM? > > > Peace > > > John / DJ Intraveinous > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Helix Tradesman [mailto:paelon@hotmail.com] > > > Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2002 2:37 PM > > > To: idm-list@staticbeats.com > > > Cc: idm@hyperreal.org > > > Subject: Re: [idm] wtf... > > > > > > Well, if you're gonna get all historical about it, techno is not > > > (chronologically) the grandaddy of all modern electronic music genres. > > > House > > > has been around in one form or another since the fall of disco, and > > > unless > > > you count kraftwerk as being the techno genre unto themselves, it > > > predates > > > what most would consider techno. > > > > > > So IDM should be listed under house now? :) > > > > > > >Because techno is the grandaddy of all modern electronic music
genres.
quoted 8 lines Before anyone was listening to house, jungle, breakbeat, trance, IDM,> > > > > > > >Before anyone was listening to house, jungle, breakbeat, trance, IDM, > > > etc. > > > >they were listening to Techno. Everything after that is just a > > > sub-genre. > > > >Techno is actually a very logical place to put IDM. > > > > > > > >12 years ago if someone asked me what kinda music I listened to I'd
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quoted 35 lines "techno". So, as far as I'm concerned everything that came after is> > > >"techno". So, as far as I'm concerned everything that came after is > > > just an > > > >interpretation of the genre. > > > > > > > >Techno is the master genre. It defines the category of electric music > > > we > > > >listen to. > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > > Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > > > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > > > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > >
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2002-03-20 07:55thoughtbludgeon@thoughtbludgeon.comyou bastards! i'll have all your skulls. ; ) --- http://www.mp3.com/edgey http://www.thoug
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you bastards! i'll have all your skulls. ; ) --- http://www.mp3.com/edgey http://www.thoughtbludgeon.com "intellect in rational movement tries to kill emotion, in doing so, only kills itself." "when you're holding a hammer, everything looks like a nail." THOUGHTBLUDGEON RECORDINGS - SOUND EXTREMES --- ----- Original Message ----- From: <Gaiatekztur214@aol.com> To: <idm@hyperreal.org> Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2002 3:22 PM Subject: Re: [idm] wtf...
quoted 2 lines ooh, he sed you like wedgies> ooh, he sed you like wedgies >
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