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I just realized something fascinating about "In A Beautiful Place Out In The Country". I don't believe I can recall any other 4 song EP that I own that feels like a complete piece of work. It has a distinct beginning, middle and end...almost giving off a feeling as if you've just listened to an entire LP. Not an easy task. Anyway....I thought that was kinda cool. TekDz9er --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

I agree, although I don't really like Amo Bishop Roden :D I do think it's funny how so many IDM'ers are quite removed from the title playing a role in the song that they don't understand Zoetrope... like they've forgotten what a zoetrope is. It makes the song much better when you remember :D cheers, /derek p.s. I do think Autechre's "Envane" felt rather complete. of course it was also over 30 minutes hehe At 10:13 PM 3/14/2001 -0500, you wrote:

quoted 12 lines I just realized something fascinating about "In A Beautiful Place Out In The

>I just realized something fascinating about "In A Beautiful Place Out In The >Country". I don't believe I can recall any other 4 song EP that I own that >feels like a complete piece of work. It has a distinct beginning, middle >and end...almost giving off a feeling as if you've just listened to an >entire LP. Not an easy task. Anyway....I thought that was kinda cool. > >TekDz9er > > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- >To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org >For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

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You need to buy more EPs. :) Unfortunately, those pesky flea-bitten UK 4-song multi-part CD-singles have tainted the good reputation of the EP. EPs, IMHO, tend to make better complete works than most albums... when they're done right. From the Butthole Surfers to Disco Inferno to Aemic to Minutemen to god knows how many electronic 12"s I own to god knows how many rock EPs I own. To make it more list specific.. um, "Donkey Rhubarb"? "Windowlicker"? ======================================================================= Brian MacDonald <brianm@kuci.org> "Run for the hills.... and hide your ho's" ======================================================================= On Wed, 14 Mar 2001, Rob Salit wrote:

quoted 7 lines I just realized something fascinating about "In A Beautiful Place Out In The

> I just realized something fascinating about "In A Beautiful Place Out In The > Country". I don't believe I can recall any other 4 song EP that I own that > feels like a complete piece of work. It has a distinct beginning, middle > and end...almost giving off a feeling as if you've just listened to an > entire LP. Not an easy task. Anyway....I thought that was kinda cool. > > TekDz9er

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A real definition is at http://www.dictionary.com/cgi-bin/dict.pl?term=zoetrope Essentially, they're a sort of toy with slits in the sides. You place a strip of paper that contains, essentially, a looping animation in it. You spin it relatively fast, and look through the slits to see the short looping cartoon (usually something relatively simple, given that these are rather small). They're horribly "simple," but their inevitable child-like quality makes it a key-in for Boards of Canada, who've made, essentially, a musical zoetrope. You can build one here: http://www.groeg.de/zoetrope.html or here: http://www.actf.com.au/learning_centre/interim_tol/online_res/anim2/anim2_zoetrope.html or here: http://www.freeweb.pdq.net/headstrong/zokit.htm which also contains an animation to show what they look like. cheers, /derek At 09:40 PM 3/14/2001 -0600, ±³§x„Þ wrote:

quoted 16 lines I do think it's funny how so many IDM'ers are quite removed from the title

> > I do think it's funny how so many IDM'ers are quite removed from the title > > playing a role in the song that they don't understand Zoetrope... like > > they've forgotten what a zoetrope is. > >enlighten us >my paperback oxford has no such entry >-- >{{{5x}}} >:::frontin' so you don't have to::: >:::http://24.108.117.188 ::: > > > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- >To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org >For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

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Some article said the song was named after a club in CA and not the toy? true? At 11:30 PM 3/14/2001 -0600, you wrote:

quoted 45 lines A real definition is at

>A real definition is at >http://www.dictionary.com/cgi-bin/dict.pl?term=zoetrope > >Essentially, they're a sort of toy with slits in the sides. You place a >strip of paper that contains, essentially, a looping animation in it. You >spin it relatively fast, and look through the slits to see the short >looping cartoon (usually something relatively simple, given that these are >rather small). They're horribly "simple," but their inevitable child-like >quality makes it a key-in for Boards of Canada, who've made, essentially, >a musical zoetrope. > >You can build one here: http://www.groeg.de/zoetrope.html >or here: >http://www.actf.com.au/learning_centre/interim_tol/online_res/anim2/anim2_zoetrope.html >or here: http://www.freeweb.pdq.net/headstrong/zokit.htm which also >contains an animation to show what they look like. > >cheers, >/derek > > >At 09:40 PM 3/14/2001 -0600, ±³§x„Þ wrote: >> > I do think it's funny how so many IDM'ers are quite removed from the title >> > playing a role in the song that they don't understand Zoetrope... like >> > they've forgotten what a zoetrope is. >> >>enlighten us >>my paperback oxford has no such entry >>-- >>{{{5x}}} >>:::frontin' so you don't have to::: >>:::http://24.108.117.188 ::: >> >> >> >>--------------------------------------------------------------------- >>To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org >>For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > > > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- >To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org >For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org >

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This I don't know. Has Boards of Canada ever been to California? heh Of course, the validity of articles is best represented, in my opinion, by a certain richard d. james :D It could've also been a rotating club, much like those restaurants. cheers, /derek At 12:57 AM 3/15/2001 -0500, Bill Wright wrote:

quoted 21 lines Some article said the song was named after a club in CA and not the toy? true?

>Some article said the song was named after a club in CA and not the toy? true? >At 11:30 PM 3/14/2001 -0600, you wrote: >>A real definition is at >>http://www.dictionary.com/cgi-bin/dict.pl?term=zoetrope >> >>Essentially, they're a sort of toy with slits in the sides. You place a >>strip of paper that contains, essentially, a looping animation in >>it. You spin it relatively fast, and look through the slits to see the >>short looping cartoon (usually something relatively simple, given that >>these are rather small). They're horribly "simple," but their inevitable >>child-like quality makes it a key-in for Boards of Canada, who've made, >>essentially, a musical zoetrope. >> >>You can build one here: http://www.groeg.de/zoetrope.html >>or here: >>http://www.actf.com.au/learning_centre/interim_tol/online_res/anim2/anim2_zoetrope.html >>or here: http://www.freeweb.pdq.net/headstrong/zokit.htm which also >>contains an animation to show what they look like. >> >>cheers, >>/derek

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quoted 1 line Some article said the song was named after a club in CA and not the toy?

> Some article said the song was named after a club in CA and not the toy?

true? It's not a club in California its a film studio (amongst other things) founded by Francis Ford Coppola called American Zoetrope :) --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org